VW Golf VI GTI [Archive] - RS6.com | International Community

AndyBG

January 30th, 2009, 17:51

Some pic's of the ''finished product''...

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090130.011/vw-golf-gti-vi-production-version-images-leaked

KresoF1

January 30th, 2009, 17:53

Great car and excellent daily driver in either ZG or BG.

AndyBG

January 30th, 2009, 18:08

Great car and excellent daily driver in either ZG or BG.

It sure is...!

AndyBG

February 2nd, 2009, 16:51

So, R32 is history, next high performace Golf is R20...

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090202.012/volkswagen-golf-r20-with-270hp-reportedly-heading-stateside

Ruergard

February 2nd, 2009, 18:50

An S3 then. ;)

I like this, a good and fun little car this should be.

AndyBG

February 2nd, 2009, 20:23

Something more...

http://www.leftlanenews.com/volkswagen-r20-turbo.html

kju

February 3rd, 2009, 01:53

looks pretty sweet. sure a great car for city

Leadfoot

February 3rd, 2009, 08:45

This is basically an S3 in VW clothes. It will offer everything the S3 gets, like dsg/S-Tronic, electronic dampers/magneticride and will probably be offered in both 3rd and 5rd form.

AndyBG

February 3rd, 2009, 12:20

What about quattro/4MOTION...?

Leadfoot

February 3rd, 2009, 14:33

What about quattro/4MOTION...?
Yes, it will also have 4MOTION.

The Pretender

February 3rd, 2009, 16:12

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/vw_audi_performance/scoop_2010_volkswagen_golf_r_series_turbo_coming_t o_america_car_news/scoop_2010_volkswagen_golf_r_series_turbo_coming_t o_america/vwr20_woodward_10_1/1963990-1-eng-US/vwr20_woodward_10_1_gallery_image_large.jpg

The ultimate Golf gets 270 hp and may be called the R20.

It’s no secret that we love the Volkswagen GTI—it's a three-time reigning recipient of a 10Best Cars award, after all. But even the 210 hp of the upcoming sixth-generation 2010 replacement model leave the GTI at a distinct power disadvantage in its class.

In the recent past, VW’s answer for power junkies has been the R32—a GTI with a 3.2-liter V-6 shoehorned into its engine compartment. Heavier than the GTI and equipped with all-wheel drive, the R32 failed to deliver significant performance improvements despite its 250-hp rating. We liked it, but were disappointed by the marginal performance benefits over the base GTI.

Six Becomes Four—Plus a Turbo

Meet the new R-series Golf. It will feature basically the same direct-injection 2.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engine that you find in the GTI, tuned to an impressive 270 hp. Power will be transmitted to all wheels. Zero-to-60 times should be in the low- to mid-fives, and while the regular GTI tops out at a drag-limited 149 mph, the new R version will hit its governor at 155, with a theoretical top speed 10 mph or so higher.

Unlike the R32, the new R model will offer performance greater than the GTI’s, with the slightly increased weight and resistance of the AWD system easily offset by the leap in power and torque. We expect a choice of manual and dual-clutch transmissions, each with six forward ratios.

Essentially, the Golf R features the Audi S3’s powertrain. We have driven that car extensively; think WRX performance combined with Audi refinement. It’s worth noting that the new Golf MkVI, upon which this R version will be based, is more sophisticated than the Audi A3/S3.

The exterior of what we believe will be called R20 Turbo is distinguished from the GTI by an even more aggressive front spoiler, complete with three distinct air intakes, a more aggressive rear spoiler, and two center-exit exhaust pipes. Three doors will be standard, but VW will most likely also offer a five-door variation. Our artist’s renderings show a possible look for the three-door R20.

It’s Coming Here!

This ultimate Golf will go on sale in Germany in late 2009, and after some internal back and forth, VW has decided to offer the R model in America.

VW will first show the R-series Golf on May 21 at the ADAC 24-hour race at the Nürburgring Nordschleife. Volkswagen will also launch an R version of the sporty, Golf-based Scirocco. Equipped with the same engine as the R20, it will be front-wheel-drive. Torque steer will be managed by an electronic differential VW calls XDS—and a prayer.

So far, no Scirocco is slated for a U.S. launch. But the Golf R is, and we couldn’t be more excited.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/vw_audi_performance/scoop_2010_volkswagen_golf_r_series_turbo_coming_t o_america_car_news/scoop_2010_volkswagen_golf_r_series_turbo_coming_t o_america/vwr20_woodward_10_2/1964004-1-eng-US/vwr20_woodward_10_2_gallery_image_large.jpg

Jarod.

tailpipe

February 3rd, 2009, 17:15

Some pic's of the ''finished product''...

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090130.011/vw-golf-gti-vi-production-version-images-leaked

Sorry, Andy, but these are not images of the finished product.

Production GTI will be seen in 4 weeks time at Geneva Motorshow.

This is what I've heard:
- Different design for bi-xenon headlight option
- Different head restraint design
- Black air dam beneath grille not white
- Different design for black add-ons on body and front spoiler

Also, but unconfirmed, there maybe a different alloy wheel design

There is one other change that is still secret. Don't know what it is. I don't expect VW to reveal R20 until at least the Autumn.

AndyBG

February 3rd, 2009, 17:17

Very nice news...! :D

Leadfoot

February 4th, 2009, 00:15

Not 100% sold on those looks Jarod. But the rest of the package is very appealing.

Mihnea@MRC

February 4th, 2009, 00:53

Sorry, Andy, but these are not images of the finished product.

Production GTI will be seen in 4 weeks time at Geneva Motorshow.

This is what I've heard:
- Different design for bi-xenon headlight option
- Different head restraint design
- Black air dam beneath grille not white
- Different design for black add-ons on body and front spoiler

Also, but unconfirmed, there maybe a different alloy wheel design

There is one other change that is still secret. Don't know what it is. I don't expect VW to reveal R20 until at least the Autumn.

The mVI GTI was on display at the Paris Auto Show last autumn and it looked really good. I don't know what could be secret, and the alloy wheels from the mkV (simply gorgeous, especially in black like on the Edition 30) will still be there on the mkVI from what I understand.

Can't wait for an R20 though, I think I'll order myself one as soon as it becomes available...

Pheew, and here's a long time Audi fan saying that about a Golf, but after having owned the mkV edition 30 Golf GTI (currently tuned to 420PS) for a little over 8 months, I really changed my mind about Golfs, but only starting with the mkV, I still can't stand any of the older ones, apart from the mkI GTI, the one that started it all, the grandmother of all hot hatches :jlol:

AndyBG

February 4th, 2009, 01:11

TmkV edition 30 Golf GTI (currently tuned to 420PS) :

420 hp...? That is big number... That car must be going very fast!

Mihnea@MRC

February 4th, 2009, 10:18

420 hp...? That is big number... That car must be going very fast!

Off-topic: yeah it's an ok car
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3323/mrcgolfvt8.jpg

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tG-WCPqsc (http://<a href=)

;) ;) ;)

Sorry for the off-topic guys...

AndyBG

February 4th, 2009, 19:52

Some more...

http://www.leftlanenews.com/volkswagen-gti-future.html

AndyBG

February 10th, 2009, 01:29

Some more about R20...

http://www.germancarblog.com/2009/02/vw-golf-r20t-details-emerge-ahead-of.html

Leadfoot

February 10th, 2009, 07:42

I like the choice of wheels for their photoshop, Audi R8v10. NICE.

The Pretender

February 10th, 2009, 19:18

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/2/large/volkswagen-golf-r20t-artists-rendering.jpg

Jarod.

Leadfoot

February 10th, 2009, 20:52

Now that is a far more aggressive and attractive front end than the S3.

Erik

February 10th, 2009, 20:56

I like it.

Wheels from the R8 look better here IMO.

ZeroCool

February 10th, 2009, 20:57

yes it is :)

and because of that, it's never going to look like this ;)

tailpipe

February 11th, 2009, 09:21

Wow! if it looks like that, then it is going to sell very well. Basically, it's going to be a TT-S in Golf attire. And there's nothing wrong with that; I have to say that the new Golf is a very attractive car.

AndyBG

February 12th, 2009, 02:07

If it get half of this look, it will be great...!

http://www.germancarblog.com/2009/02/vw-golf-r20t-will-it-look-like-this.html

tailpipe

February 12th, 2009, 20:55

Just heard from VW dealer that new GTI lands in the UK in May. Production trim version will be at Geneva. No news about R20.

Leadfoot

February 12th, 2009, 21:32

Just heard from VW dealer that new GTI lands in the UK in May. Production trim version will be at Geneva. No news about R20.

Now that is interesting because my wife is down for the first one from our dealer and we were told Aug/Sept. I wonder is it demo models in LHD that you are talking about that usually do the rounds so the public get to see them.

tailpipe

February 12th, 2009, 22:01

I need a car to replace our venerable but very aged A2 and have ordered a VW Golf Mark 6 GTI. I was orginally told March, then September and now May. Dealers have been taking orders for six months. The factory will only process them from March apparently.

I don't know, but imagine that the launch has been accelerated by a general lack of car buying interest. The GTI should cause a wave of excitement among UK enthusiasts. I think quite a few people are trading down from big thirsty V8s to nimble hot hatches. I am.

Goodbye horrible, disgusting Lexus. Hello, nice Golf. Hurry up with next RS4 Avant please Audi.

tailpipe

February 12th, 2009, 22:07

P.S. The Golf R20 is so achingly I-want-one-sexy it makes the new Scirocco look dowdy.

I really hope R20 gets to look like these pictures suggest. But even if it is only halfway as good-looking, the 'Roc will need a more aggressive makeover. Pronto. The cabin interior especially needs to be tarted-up. It's a real parts-bin fire sale mish-mash.

Leadfoot

February 12th, 2009, 22:49

I too have half had the idea of trading down for a couple of years to see how the Market will pan out. Originally the TT/RS was and still is number one on my wish list but I have started to consider either the TT/S or S3, but now this R20T has popped up I am really keen on this, especially if it looks like these imagines.

tailpipe

February 12th, 2009, 23:34

I agree with you about the TTS. It is an amazing machine. I actually think that the TT-RS will do little to improve upon it. While i have never been convinced by 5-cylinder engines, I am sure Audi will deliver a great motor. The point is, however, that the 2.0-litre unit in the TTS is simply stunning. I think it is one of the finest engines available anywhere (with the possible exception of the 4.2-litre V8 FSI). I love how the TT looks, unfortunately it simply doesn't have enough space for my needs.

The thing is when you start speccing-up a nice TT, you quickly get into very decent second-hand Cayman territory. And that Cayman, especially the new S with the PDK double-clutch gearbox, is a helluva lot of car. Very tempted by it.

Leadfoot

February 12th, 2009, 23:44

I don't know if I would say that QuattroGmbH won't improve on the TT/S with the TT/RS, what I was told was that it will be a lot close in ability to the R8 than you will believe. I actually think the new 5cyl will be something special, a return to that similar sound that use to be heard in the forests all those years ago.

AndyBG

February 13th, 2009, 00:06

VW has released aero kit for Golf VI...

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/02/vw-releases-aero-kit-and-numerous-other.html

The Pretender

February 13th, 2009, 05:11

I agree with you about the TTS. It is an amazing machine. I actually think that the TT-RS will do little to improve upon it. While i have never been convinced by 5-cylinder engines, I am sure Audi will deliver a great motor. The point is, however, that the 2.0-litre unit in the TTS is simply stunning. I think it is one of the finest engines available anywhere......
I always being very convinced by the 5-cylinder engines, have drove them about 15 years.
They told me that the new 5 cylinder engine is a full brother of the EA888 engine.

I don't know if I would say that Quattro GmbH won't improve on the TT/S with the TT/RS, what I was told was that it will be a lot close in ability to the R8 than you will believe. I actually think the new 5cyl will be something special, a return to that similar sound that use to be heard in the forests all those years ago.
They told me that the TT RS is as fast as a R8 V10 till the straits come.
btw, quattro is "not" with a capitol "Q"

Jarod.

Leadfoot

February 13th, 2009, 12:00

They told me that the TT RS is as fast as a R8 V10 till the straits come.
btw, quattro is "not" with a capitol "Q"

Jarod.

That is pretty much the same opinion I took out of the conversation I had. In the corners the TT/RS will be lightening quick and will be nearly as quick as the R8 on the straights.

My opinion is that we may see a time approaching that of the R8 on the Hockenheim course, if it gets similar compound rubber.

P.S.

So you are saying it's 'quattroGmbH' and not 'QuattroGmbH'. Understood, my bad. :thumb:

Leadfoot

February 13th, 2009, 12:09

The thing is when you start speccing-up a nice TT, you quickly get into very decent second-hand Cayman territory. And that Cayman, especially the new S with the PDK double-clutch gearbox, is a helluva lot of car. Very tempted by it.

I have had my fill of Boxsters/Caymans and to be perfectly honest, while they are great cars they are boring and plain inside and don't fill you with confidence on back roads as a quattro car does.

There is little doubt that the Caymans appeal has took as almighty jump with the introduction of both PDK and the LSD, my guess is Porsche reckon more people will be down grading their cars in the near future and they want to guarantee that they at least stick to buying a Porsche where ever possible.

To me the ideal Porsche would be a Cayman S in four wheel drive form, but as there is little to no chance of that happening I reckon the TT/RS is the better option. Plus it will have a more individual engine note, unlike any other Audi, well until Audi put it else where. ;)

AndyBG

March 13th, 2009, 01:19

Aparently, GTI-R is the name of future most powerfull Golf...

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090312.031/volkswagen-readying-gti-r-for-frankfurt

tailpipe

March 13th, 2009, 10:16

GTI or GTI-R, I think the high-performance models of the new Golf represent an outstanding compromise between performance and practicality. With their increased economy and better environmental credentials they do make a compelling choice for most people interested in this type of car.

I think the Volkswagen Group has been very clever to push the Audi TT into the performance stratosphere to distance it from its Golf GTI cousins. I think the new TT-RS is a stunning car and fully agree with Leadfoot that it has a unique engine.

roadrunner

March 13th, 2009, 10:54

...
I think the Volkswagen Group has been very clever to push the Audi TT into the performance stratosphere to distance it from its Golf GTI cousins. I think the new TT-RS is a stunning car and fully agree with Leadfoot that it has a unique engine.

I doubt that a lot of prospect byuers have these two on the radar. After all, the Golf GTI is a high performance hatchback (available and at least in Austria mostly bought as 4 door) and the TT (S, RS) is 2 door coupe.

Besides that, the V GTI was a sucess and the VI GTI & GTI-R will be as well fore sure.

What the 2.0 TFSI ca do in a car, we know from the TT-S :jlol:

tailpipe

March 19th, 2009, 09:42

New GTI will be officially launched next week. Expect to see reviews in major European magazines shortly. Interesting new carbon black colour added plus range of additional extras are available for it including very cool xenon headlights. GTI-R is expected to debut at Frankfurt with the TT-S engine.

KresoF1

March 19th, 2009, 12:14

VW Golf GTI VI is on sale already in mainland EU.
Here are the pics from Geneva...
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_1.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_2.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_5.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_8.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_11.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_12.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_17.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_19.jpg
http://www.omniauto.it/awpImages/photogallery/2009/8914/photos/volkswagen-golf-gti-al-salone-di-ginevra-2009_20.jpg

AndyBG

March 19th, 2009, 12:29

With GTI this good, it becomes very difficult to choose between Golf and Scirocco...

tailpipe

March 19th, 2009, 18:31

Thanks for the great pictures.

Yes, I was talking about the UK. I didn't realize that the GTI is already out on European roads.

For me, nice as the Scirocco is, it doesn't have the quality or depth of the Golf GTI. it is also built in Portugal not Germany. Nothing against the Portuguese, but the way cars are put together in Germany is quite extraordinary.

AndyBG, that 2.0-litre TSI engine is fantastic. Any car that has it, be it A3, TT, A4, Q5 Golf, Passat or Tiguan is okay in my book.

AndyBG

March 19th, 2009, 19:21

AndyBG, that 2.0-litre TSI engine is fantastic. Any car that has it, be it A3, TT, A4, Q5 Golf, Passat or Tiguan is okay in my book.

That makes your book quite a big... :D

Skoda Octavia, Skoda Superb, Seat Leon, Seat Altea, Seat Toledo... :hihi:

Just kidding... ;)

AndyBG

March 24th, 2009, 13:31

Some more pic's and words about new GTI...

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090323.034/volkswagen-golf-gti-mkvi-in-depth

tailpipe

April 2nd, 2009, 13:27

Just ordered a 5-door VW Golf VI GTI with DSG in Shadow Blue with leather, Sat Nav, ACC, Park Assist, sun roof and 18" wheels. Looks like June delivery, because I'm waiting for the new Xenon headlights which aren't available until week 22 production. So looking forward to drive from London to Rome this Summer. This will replace our old Audi A2, which we've had since 2000. Can't wait.

Leadfoot

April 2nd, 2009, 15:54

Congrats,

I was rung by the dealer asking if I wanted the very first GTI in the UK but decided at the moment changing the wife's car wouldn't be the right moving. The secondhand GTI is down about £4k from where the market was last year for the same age/spec and the new one is up a couple of grand so I declined his offer.

AndyBG

April 10th, 2009, 16:37