I love the big brown truck

[KfabR8]

The Wheel & Tire Fairy stopped by my house today!

Happy Birthday (Dec 23) and Merry Christmas to me! :R8kiss:

[RXBG]

ZOMG.

gorgeous. not to dance to the wrong tune but- how strong are they?

i've avoided mods to my car for the sole purpose of spending the money on a V10 but....

[The RS6]

OMG You must be ... :wo: :wo: :wo:

Post pics & opinions ASAP :dig:

[kju]

this is just insane

[JavierNuvolari]

Whoa!!! what's the wheight of those things!!!!

[Bluehinder]

Waste of money inho. Don't look as good as stock.

[RXBG]

Waste of money inho. Don't look as good as stock.


on a daytona gray car they will look great, i think.

[Bluehinder]

on a daytona gray car they will look great, i think.

Silly on a street car. Better to save your money and buy a R8 V10.

[KfabR8]

Whoa!!! what's the wheight of those things!!!!With tires: Fronts weigh 35 lbs (15.91kg) and rears are 47 lbs (21.36kg). I'll weight the stockers when I pull them off. There will be a bit of a variance, as the tires on the car now have about 5K on them.


:harass:
Waste of money inho. Don't look as good as stock.Everyone loves a hater. Makes my day! :bye: - and I appreciate the fact that you have an opinion. I will never put anyone down for their opinion, but I will poke fun at the negative ones! :applause:

Life's short. Play hard, enjoy the hell out of yourself and keep a good, happy outlook on life.


Silly on a street car. You needed to add this icon: :rotflmao: Would have made your comment have so much more emphasis!

Better to save your money and buy a R8 V10.How about just buy a V10 when available? No need to save up for one. :thumb:

Rims are going on in a couple hours.

Pix of the car w/the rims will be posted later today.

[Bluehinder]

With tires: Fronts weigh 35 lbs (15.91kg) and rears are 47 lbs (21.36kg). I'll weight the stockers when I pull them off. There will be a bit of a variance, as the tires on the car now have about 5K on them.


:harass:Everyone loves a hater. Makes my day! :bye: - and I appreciate the fact that you have an opinion. I will never put anyone down for their opinion, but I will poke fun at the negative ones! :applause:

Life's short. Play hard, enjoy the hell out of yourself and keep a good, happy outlook on life.

You needed to add this icon: :rotflmao: Would have made your comment have so much more emphasis!
How about just buy a V10 when available? No need to save up for one. :thumb:

Rims are going on in a couple hours.

Pix of the car w/the rims will be posted later today.

We're talking about wheels here, not your mother.

A little sensitive are we?

[DHall1]

Did you get these from Grizz? Is there a US distributor for these wheels?

Congrats. Now put some on the RS6. :-)


The Wheel & Tire Fairy stopped by my house today!

Happy Birthday (Dec 23) and Merry Christmas to me! :R8kiss:

[Ruergard]

Great choice on the wheels, will look stunning!

Speed up with the pics man! :thumb:

[KfabR8]

We're talking about wheels here, not your mother.

A little sensitive are we?LOL!! Relax. I was having fun at your expense.

No harm, no foul. I'll be the first to admit that I'm a smart ass and when it's handed to me on a silver platter, as you did with your posts, well I'll run with it and have one Hell of a good time doing so.

Pix to be posted tomorrow morning.

[roadrunner]

Look forwad to the pics. we have seen a similar combo here, if i remember correctly, but don't remember where.

Good choice - I'm normally the pure OEM type of guy, but these wheels have something to them.

and they go well with your "carbon fetish" :hihi:

[Ricoloco]

Just watch it.....I´m not really sure if I would dare to use those wheels....sorry.
This pic is after a drag.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii160/miffokongo/aaaa.jpg

[Mr Balsen]

well it is not the carbon which broke in this particular case. But the magnesium parts !!!

Which car ? how much power ? how did it happen ?

Frederic

[KfabR8]

I purchased the rims, wheels and TPMS setup from Wheel Enhancement. They're the US distributor for Dymag.

From what I understand, Dymag has redone the center section of the rims (again?), thus the wait of about 4 months. I will keep a very close eye on them, though.

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[JavierNuvolari]

well it is not the carbon which broke in this particular case. But the magnesium parts !!!

Which car ? how much power ? how did it happen ?

Frederic


Very important questions that I would like to know the answer too as well.

As for the photos...we need bigger ones, it looks awesome, congrats ;).

[KfabR8]

As for the photos...we need bigger ones, it looks awesome, congrats ;).Click on each pic. It will take you to a larger view. :race:

[goodduck]

they suit your car really well. would love to see a proper photoshoot. get some local photo/car ggeek to shoot her for you! thanks for the pics

[Daniel]

I love the big brown truck, too !!!

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z230/Jennlake1/sexy_ups_girl.jpg

your car looks great...!!!

[DHall1]

Best thread this year. !!!




I love the big brown truck, too !!!

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z230/Jennlake1/sexy_ups_girl.jpg

your car looks great...!!!

[Boosted-Bora]

I hate you rich...LOL naw man great wheels and they look awsome

[hahnmgh63]

As for the stock wheels, they are garbage. Heavy cast wheels are unacceptable on a car in this price range. Forged wheels should have been standard. In my book Forged quality wheels would win out over cast wheels any day. Looks help, but light and strong forged come first in my book.

[Mr Balsen]

Due to number of packages, UPS came twice:

http://www.tantoday.com/forums/gallery/files/1/2/6/8/upsg4.jpg

Frederic

[itisme]

Are those rear lights smoked? Personally I think it's not my taste.. nevertheless wheels look great!
Did you do some engine mods?

I think car tuning should focus on rims, suspension and engine...

a car who needs more than these 3 things isn't worth buying ;):D...

but, taste is different so smoking rear lights is ok ;)

[Qisha]

...they visit us daily. :D

http://googlegirls.files.wordpress.com/2006/02/211-upsgirl.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/skin_inker/ups_girl.jpg

[Mr Balsen]

Qisha,

Where do you call to get this delivery option from UPS...

Frederic

[Ruergard]

Looks great! But bigger pics in better quality would be very nice! :)

[DHall1]

Actually those tails look like the Hella OEMs for the C5.

I have a set on my Avus RS6 and the quality is 100% OEM. If you look on your factory lights you will also see Hella.

For what its worth the lens material and design allow full lighting to come through the critical areas for excellent lightning. While at the same time the non critical area looks tinted.

I hope that makes sense.




Are those rear lights smoked? Personally I think it's not my taste.. nevertheless wheels look great!
Did you do some engine mods?

I think car tuning should focus on rims, suspension and engine...

a car who needs more than these 3 things isn't worth buying ;):D...

but, taste is different so smoking rear lights is ok ;)

[kju]

bluehinder could i see a few photos of your ferrari ? that would be very kind of you !

[KfabR8]

As for the stock wheels, they are garbage. Heavy cast wheels are unacceptable on a car in this price range. Forged wheels should have been standard. In my book Forged quality wheels would win out over cast wheels any day. Looks help, but light and strong forged come first in my book.I may have given the wrong weights - fronts are 39 lbs (17.73 kg) and the rears are 47 lbs (21.37 kg).

The difference in weight between the stock rims and tires (which have exactly 1/2 of the tread worn away) and the Dymags w/new sneakers on them (same thing - PS2's) was 3 lbs (1.36 kg). It was the same for the front and rear, interestingly enough.



Are those rear lights smoked? Personally I think it's not my taste.. nevertheless wheels look great!
Did you do some engine mods?

I think car tuning should focus on rims, suspension and engine...

a car who needs more than these 3 things isn't worth buying ;):D...

but, taste is different so smoking rear lights is ok ;)They day I put the wheels on, I also tinted the tail lights and the marker lights. I used a smoked self adhesive film that I got from the place that tinted the windows. I don't know the name of the product, as I was given a piece just large enough to do the car.

I can pull it off w/o any damage or issue to the car.

I've always had this dislike of chrome, hence the idea of going the opposite direction with the darkening of everything and removal of the chrome rings and R8 logo. I still have a blacked out front grill to install and I will eventually get around to ceramic coating (probably a dark flat gray) the tail pipes.

I realize that the mods I've had fun doing are not to everyone's taste. Some will like it, some will not. That's all good in my book. I'm glad that we don't live in a cookie cutter world.

Try to remember that we all enjoy our rides in our own little way. Perfect example: There's a black R8 here in the Cincinnati area that, from what I understand, was the first to be sold by one of the dealerships. The guy's had the car for almost a year and he has 400 miles on it now. I don't understand why one would own a vehicle like this and keep it as a museum piece.

I purchased my R8 on June 3rd and I rolled over 17K on it this afternoon. It's obvious that we enjoy our cars in an entirely different light.

I've not done any engine mods, nor do I plan to - at least for a while. I am getting ready to put the Revo setup in my RS6, so this will be my first step into the engine mod world. I want to see what sort of changes and such this makes on my old car before I start messing w/this one.

I'll get better pix up soon. Realized that I took them on the worst resolution setting in my camera. The weather sucks right now, so the first day we get sun and I can get the car washed, I'll make sure I take more and better pix.

Thanks for making this a fun thread guys!

[Mr Balsen]

I may have given the wrong weights - fronts are 39 lbs (17.73 kg) and the rears are 47 lbs (21.37 kg).
The difference in weight between the stock rims and tires (which have exactly 1/2 of the tread worn away) and the Dymags w/new sneakers on them (same thing - PS2's) was 3 lbs (1.36 kg). It was the same for the front and rear, interestingly enough.


If I understand properly, you gain 1,36 kilos by switching from stock rims to dymag rims ?

I was under the impression that it will be much more...

Frederic

[KfabR8]

No, I lost 1.36 kg per wheel.

Dymag fronts: 39 lbs/17.73 kg, Stock fronts: 42 lbs/19.09 kg
Dymag rears: 47 lbs/21.37 kg, Stock rears: 50 lbs/2.73kg

The tread wear of the tires on the stock wheels was .100" (2.5 mm). The PS2's on the stock rims have right at 6K miles on them.

I wonder how much the rubber that has worn away weighs?

[Erik]

No, I lost 1.36 kg per wheel.


Great thread :hihi: but I would have expected much more loss per wheel.

But they look cool too. :love:

[Bluehinder]

bluehinder could i see a few photos of your ferrari ? that would be very kind of you !

Just a quicky.

[Ruergard]

Just a quicky.

Great cars and a nice garage. Always fun to see! :)

[p3u]

Bluehinder, curious to where you are in CO, as I have seen an R8 of your color driving around a few times in the past month or so.

Amazing cars btw!

[Bluehinder]

bluehinder could i see a few photos of your ferrari ? that would be very kind of you !

Sunny day.

[Bluehinder]

Bluehinder, curious to where you are in CO, as I have seen an R8 of your color driving around a few times in the past month or so.

Amazing cars btw!

I'm in the Fort Collins area.

[p3u]

Guess it was another then! Unless you are in the Springs often?

If you don't mind me asking what is you daily driver?

[Bluehinder]

Guess it was another then! Unless you are in the Springs often?

If you don't mind me asking what is you daily driver?

A8 on weekdays, R8 on weekends.

[p3u]

Good choice. You should post some pics of the A8 sometime.

[AudiTumbo]

I played with the pic if you don't mind :)

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[KfabR8]

You guys asked for higher res pix, so here ya go.

The weather here's been crappy, so today's the first chance I've had to take any pix.

I'm not a camera guy by any shape or form.... (as the pix will tell)

Click on each pic for a larger view.



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[Boosted-Bora]

sick bro I am loving it

[Ruergard]

Looking absolutely stunning, perfect choice! :thumb:

[RXBG]

in real life your car must look wicked kfab. be careful with them though. the pic of the broken rim makes me nervous. keep us posted.

[RXBG]

As for the stock wheels, they are garbage. Heavy cast wheels are unacceptable on a car in this price range. Forged wheels should have been standard. In my book Forged quality wheels would win out over cast wheels any day. Looks help, but light and strong forged come first in my book.

are you referring to the R8 OEM wheels? they are forged. not cast.

[KfabR8]

That's weird. One pic is missing:

http://www.yellowdogracing.com/Audi/thumbs/DSC01284.JPG (http://www.yellowdogracing.com/Audi/DSC01284.JPG)

[Erik]

KfabR8, great looking car!

[Tezta]

This is the reply from Bill Koenig from Dymag-USA regarding that photo on page 1 of the destroyed Dymag wheel

I handeled the situation of the broken center for Dymag.
The wheel was broken at a track event in Mexico the customer runs full slicks all the time at the track and these wheels had about 60 full track days on them unfortunately they were not checked after each event and the spoke developed a hairline crack that started from the engraving on the back of the spoke. They stamp the back of the spokes with the model number of the mold. The crack propagated causing the spoke to break in half and transfering the weight load the the remaining spoke as he continued to run the wheel then broke as he was in a straight line braking zone at the end of a staright away.
The damage to the car was minimal about $10k and Dymag paid for the damage and the full set of wheels the car was back at the track in 10 days time and the customer was fully reimbursed.
The magnesium center was sent to a testing lab here in the U.S. to make sure that it had all the properties it should have for cast magnesium the test results came back with passing results and upon inspection of the wheel it was determined that fatigue was what caused the failure.

These wheels have been used in racing by a BMW British Turing car team that competed two season with no problems and won a 24 hour race as well as a podium in a 12 hour race and many sprint races.
GMG used the wheel for two full season on the Time attack series with no issues and even said they gained time at Infineon as they could drive over the curbs much harder then they could with the BBS race wheels as the Dymag absorbed the impact and the BBS would have bent

Dymag has changed the center disc material to a forged exotic metal called Magnalium this is a hybrid of Magnesium and Aluminum and contains the best properties of each. The magnesium offers the lightweight and strength and the forged aluminum offers the non-corrosive property that is one of the downfalls of magnesium.

This new center disc material will be on every new Dymag wheel starting delivery next month we stopped taking oders in August so that we could be sure of the testing of the new material I will attach the updates I recived on the testing but you can be sure that DYMAG wheels are properly tested to the multiply requirements of TUV,JWL,DOT and they have passed independent test by General Motors in both the Cadillac and Corvette divisions as well as Mclaren.

I want people to understand that many brands of wheels have failed at some point but track events is where you hear and see about them but what you need to know and understand is how does the company stand behind its product and I think you can see from this story that Dymag handeled this customer quick so that he was back on the track at his next event.

Following is the test results in progress on the new Magnalium center Dymag wheels these same test were used in the original magnesium centers as well and then you will read they have done real world testing on the track at SPA and Silverstone in the last month.

The wheel has now completed 1 million cycles of cornering fatigue comprising of 500,000 cycles at 550kg static wheel load (2,200kg gross vehicle weight) and then 500,000 cycles at 600kg static load (2,400kg gross vehicle weight). The test load has a large safety factor incorporated into the calculation, which gives a test load of 2,200 ft lbs at 550kg static and 2,500 ft lbs at 600kg static. The British Standard test duration is only 150,000 cycles and so completing 1 million cycles at these loads with no damage or air-leakage is an impressive result." The radial fatigue test has thus far completed 500,000 cycles at 550kg static load, which gives a test load of 1,237kgs. This is the required British Standard test duration. This test will run on to a million cycles, which is twice the required duration and then assuming there are no problems; we will increase the load and retest. We have also arranged a race test at SPA on 8th and 9th October on a race prepared GT3, where it will be pushed to the extreme including driving back and forth from the shop:

Here is the report from SPA:

Although I have yet to receive the full results of the tests at Spa, Jon Oakley has given me an interim review of what happened whilst I was in Italy, the car was fitted with the latest Pirelli Corsa competition tyres that are road legal and was driven to Spa and back very hard on the same set of tyres, including the old concrete Jabbeke Highway which is a very fast freeway that creates incredible noise and vibration from the surface and is renowned as a wheel breaker (Jaguar did the original testing of the XK120 there in 1959). Wednesday morning was raining lightly and then the circuit dried, the rest of Wednesday and all Thursday was dry. There were only 2 other cars quicker than the Oakley Porsche, a GT1 Aston Martin and a DTM Mercedes, the Oakley 997 GT3RS is a very quick car with a very efficient Oakley Design Ti exhaust, Intrax suspension, carbon cage, ceramic brakes, race calipers etc and is quicker than the Porsche Supercup cars. Jon is a good, reliable and quick race/test driver who gives good feedback beyond the data logger information. The following observations were as Jon reported:
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The wheels have not cracked
The car handled better and steered more precisely on the Al centre (stiffness) compared to the Mg centre – Jon was able to conduct a back to back comparison. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.6speedonline.com/get/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gifMaximum “observed” temperatures within the rim (infra red pyrometer readings) were 92°
There were absolutely no leaks
There was no creaking noise
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A very small amount of the black Adheseal was extruded from the spoke end joint – excessive application??

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The wheels should be back available to us by Tuesday, so we should strip and examine the joints/centres etc carefully. Jon will give us a full report with lap timings on the treatments and settings I asked him to give the car to fully load the wheels, he sounded a very happy man!!


As you have read the testing is very extensive and they used this product for two years in racing before they introduced it to the market in 2006 there have been some issues with leaking and the centers making noise but it was all due to the old technology magnesium centers so in an effort to eliminate these problems more testing and the development of the Magnelium has come to pass.

The new centers will be avilable from December and Dymag stands behind its prodcut and its customers. I have been in the wheel business 16 years and I have run Dymag wheels on my 996 GT3 at the track for two years.

Please understand I am posting this information to clear up any misunderstanding of this wheels broken center which has been addressed and corrected and you can see that the carbon fiber held up very well under the conditions.

Good Luck to you in you choice for wheels and I hope this clears things up about Dymag!

[KfabR8]

Fantastic info. It's always nice when someone can produce quality reports such as this. Thank you.

I have about 12K miles on my wheels thus far (and am ready for replacement sneakers - the rears are about 90% worn). There have been absolutely no issues with my rims. No streaks, no signs of wear, nothing other than one small spooge of black stuff (the sealer mentioned above) out of one rim/spoke junction.

I'm very pleased w/my Dymags and, at least for me, think it was the rim to choose.

[Tezta]

Fantastic info. It's always nice when someone can produce quality reports such as this. Thank you.

I have about 12K miles on my wheels thus far (and am ready for replacement sneakers - the rears are about 90% worn). There have been absolutely no issues with my rims. No streaks, no signs of wear, nothing other than one small spooge of black stuff (the sealer mentioned above) out of one rim/spoke junction.

I'm very pleased w/my Dymags and, at least for me, think it was the rim to choose.

You are welcome, my company is the exclusive distributor for Hong Kong and the wheels are still relatively "new" in the market so not too many people know about them, plus when these photos of damaged wheels pop up its always a shock to most if they do not know what really happened. Funny that is always the exact same photo though.

Your car looks great btw