The new TTRS nearly without camouflage

[ültje1]

http://www.tts-freunde.de/thread.php?sid=aeae5c1c66dd7718c1b0b56cf388f269&postid=7533#post7533

[Rage]

Looks MEAN. Love the RS alloys. I wonder does it have back seats?

[Mockenrue]

With buckets that big I sincerely doubt it! I would imagine it'll be like the Mk1 quattro Sport, where the rear seats were replaced by a horizontal brace.

[The Pretender]

There will be a new style exhaust valance for the TT-R.



Jarod.

[JavierNuvolari]

http://www.motorauthority.com/spy-shots-2009-audi-tt-rs.html
The sound of this thing is like a V10!!!!!!!

[The Pretender]

http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/10/7/9081007.004/9081007.004.Mini1L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/10/7/9081007.004/9081007.004.Mini2L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/10/7/9081007.004/9081007.004.Mini3L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/10/7/9081007.004/9081007.004.Mini4L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/10/7/9081007.004/9081007.004.Mini5L.jpg
http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/10/7/9081007.004/9081007.004.Mini6L.jpg

Hans.

[The Pretender]

I wonder does it have back seats?
Yes it have and will keep them.

Jarod.

[96a4]

love the way it looks, kinda of looks like a mini Porsche.

[M3 owner]

Worldcarfans.com r claiming that this car is rumored 2 b powered by a S/C V6, what happened 2 the 2.5 TT unit?

[JavierNuvolari]

Worldcarfans.com r claiming that this car is rumored 2 b powered by a S/C V6, what happened 2 the 2.5 TT unit?

Saw the video I posted? there's no way that thing is powered by anything else than a I5. if not...I will eat my words mate.

Saludos.

[The Pretender]

Worldcarfans.com r claiming that this car is rumored 2 b powered by a S/C V6, what happened 2 the 2.5 TT unit?
Based on my info WCF is wrong, the S/C V6 is a longitudinal V6 engine and will not fit transverse in the TT body or longitudinal with out big front end/engine bay changes.
I doubt Quattro GmbH will do that kind of big changes to the TT-R to fit the S/C V6 longitudinal.

Jarod.

[Mr Balsen]

The TT RS will have the 5 Inline engine. Period.

Frederic

[The Pretender]

The TT RS will have the 5 Inline engine. Period.

Frederic
I know.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

I was under the impression that everyone knew the engine that the TT/R was getting.

Obviously no one told WCF. :hihi:

The next big talking point is gearbox choices, I think Audi UK's boob might have been to release details on the gearbox going to the wrong car. ;)

P.S.
Of course it will have rear seats, it's not a two seater, that's what will give this car the advantage over the likes of the SLK55 and Z4M. Fight with every advantage you have is my policy.

[.:Rico]

Don't want to flog a dead horse here, but in the Motor Authority article they mention that "Audi is also looking to use the same engine in a new RS variant of the A3 hatch as well. This model is expected to arrive soon after the launch of the TT-RS." Is there any validity in this statement? At that time Audi will be getting close to the end of the current A3's lifecycle, looking at a new model 2010 onwards, so maybe?

[Mockenrue]

I've heard this too from elsewhere. If it were to be the case, I would have expected there to have been some test mule sightings by now. These TT prototypes have been around for a good while.

[The Pretender]

Don't want to flog a dead horse here, but in the Motor Authority article they mention that "Audi is also looking to use the same engine in a new RS variant of the A3 hatch as well. This model is expected to arrive soon after the launch of the TT-RS." Is there any validity in this statement? At that time Audi will be getting close to the end of the current A3's lifecycle, looking at a new model 2010 onwards, so maybe?
I don't think in this life time of the A3.

Jarod.

[The Pretender]

If you take a closer look, you see that the exhaust tips are mounted in the bumper like the R8 have.

http://globalmotors.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/2010-audi-tt-rs-5.jpg

Jarod.

[Ruergard]

The looks is good, but the sound of that engine... Priceless! :love:

[The Pretender]

http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/2/0/2010_audi_tt_rs_cabrio_001-1008-950x673.jpg
http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/2/0/2010_audi_tt_rs_cabrio_002-1008-950x673.jpg
http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/2/0/2010_audi_tt_rs_cabrio_003-1008-950x673.jpg
http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/2/0/2010_audi_tt_rs_cabrio_004-1008-950x673.jpg
http://www.motorauthority.com/content/thumbs/2/0/2010_audi_tt_rs_cabrio_005-1008-950x673.jpg

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

Jarod,

What that colour on the roadster?

It doesn't look like Sprint Blue.

[Qisha]

Jarod,

What that colour on the roadster?

It doesn't look like Sprint Blue.

Dear Leadfoot,

Racing Blue Mica. :)

Qisha

[Leadfoot]

Dear Leadfoot,

Racing Blue Mica. :)

Qisha

Great, next question.

Is it a new RS colour, only available on the TT/R?

[The Pretender]

So far i know it will be one of the color choices for the RS.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

So far i know it will be one of the color choices for the RS.

Jarod.

Is it an exclusive QuattroGmbH colour or one readily available to the TT/R?

Oh and those alloys which look identical to the 20" RS6 ones are 19", meaning they will probably be the option alloys when the car is released.

I like the idea of a standardised alloys option on all RS models, hoping keeping it exclusive to the breed.

[itisme]

I like the idea of a standardised alloys option on all RS models, hoping keeping it exclusive to the breed.


it sure will not! All RS and S alloys become an option for all common Audi models.. this will be with these alloys too in the future

[trick]

Rear valence already posted?

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7696/9080822010mini4lyo3.jpg

[HKS786]

^^^

Nope :D That is actually the S-line kit with the rear valance cut to accomodate the twin exhausts.

[Leadfoot]

^^^

Nope :D That is actually the S-line kit with the rear valance cut to accomodate the twin exhausts.

Agreed, this is only an S-Line rear with the holes cut to accommodate the RS traditional oval pipes. Nothing more.

[The Pretender]

The exhaust tips are mounted to the rearbumper not to the exhaust.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

The exhaust tips are mounted to the rearbumper not to the exhaust.

Jarod.

AKA, Lexus IS-F. ;)

[The Pretender]

AKA, Lexus IS-F. ;)
Audi R8, A8 W12.

Jarod.

[HKS786]

Audi R8, A8 W12.

Jarod.

Also, the new 7 too. Lots of cars do this.

http://www.7post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=187546&stc=1&d=1222037653
http://www.7post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=187547&stc=1&d=1222037665

[The Pretender]

It's an exclusive Quattro GmbH colour.

http://www.motor-talk.de/attachment/579208/Racin%20Blue%20Mica.jpg

But in case of the TT RS it would be one of the basic colors.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

I honestly thought with all the fuss that so many people made of the IS-F having these fake pipes that it was a new thing. To now discover that quite a few manufacturers do similar make me think what was all the big deal about. :eye:

Great to hear that this is a stock colour, it looks really well, especially with dark alloys. Menacing. :king:

[The Pretender]

I honestly thought with all the fuss that so many people made of the IS-F having these fake pipes that it was a new thing. To now discover that quite a few manufacturers do similar make me think what was all the big deal about. :eye:
This is a way by the manufacturers to keep the exhaust design intakt.

Jarod.

[The Pretender]

I expect a R8 style of rear bumper for the TT RS.

Jarod.

[The Pretender]

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/1audittrsc2.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/1audittrsc2.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/2audittrsc.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/2audittrsc.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/3aaudittrsc4.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/3aaudittrsc4.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/3audittrsc2.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/3audittrsc2.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/4audittrsc4.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/4audittrsc4.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/5audittrsc5.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/5audittrsc5.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/6audittrsc6.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/6audittrsc6.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/7audittrsc7.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/7audittrsc7.jpg) http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/85x66/8audittrsc8.jpg (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/10959/images/8audittrsc8.jpg)
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Jarod.

[ZeroCool]

i really like it :)

i think we're going to see this car soon...

[trick]

Someones posted 340bhp / 400Nm single turbo 5 pot elsewhere.

Lower than I expected, although I guess with torque being ~10% higher than the TTS, S-tronic may actually be an option after all?

[Leadfoot]

Someones posted 340bhp / 400Nm single turbo 5 pot elsewhere.

Lower than I expected, although I guess with torque being ~10% higher than the TTS, S-tronic may actually be an option after all?

I have only heard the power figures being suggested, not the torque but all that is said here sound reasonable to me.

The weight of the TT/R is the thing I am most interested to know and will show Audi commitment to making the TT/R everything we have been lead to believe.

[The Pretender]

Based on the TT-S the torque should be ± 437.5 Nm.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

Based on the TT-S the torque should be ± 437.5 Nm.

Jarod.

This figure will depend on where the torque and peak power figures are achieved, but again it's very possible that for the engine to have 340hp and 325ft/lbs.

A nice round set of figures. ;)

[Marv]

...almost identical to the new 3.0 SC in the S4. I wonder which engine is lighter and whether the inline 5 was looked at for the S4. I guess the 3.0 SC will have much better throttle response. Looking forward to reviews of both these engines.

Marv

[Leadfoot]

...almost identical to the new 3.0 SC in the S4. I wonder which engine is lighter and whether the inline 5 was looked at for the S4. I guess the 3.0 SC will have much better throttle response. Looking forward to reviews of both these engines.

Marv

I would say that the R5 engine will rev harder near the limit than the 3.0SC. And being turboed instead of supercahrged it will be more inclined to a bit more lag as the turbo/s spool up.

Two different engines designed to suit different characteristics and qualities.

One thing is for sure, the TT/R will sound a whole lot better than the S4.

[The Pretender]

One thing is for sure, the TT/R will sound a whole lot better than the S4.
Nothing beat the sound of 5 cylinders, except the sound of a double five. ;)

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

Nothing beat the sound of 5 cylinders, except the sound of a double five. ;)

Jarod.

A different sound but better? :eye:

Maybe the memories of forest stages with the sound of Audi Quattros racing by has clouded my judgement.

[The Pretender]

A different sound but better? :eye:

Maybe the memories of forest stages with the sound of Audi Quattros racing by has clouded my judgement.
I'm doubt the new five will sound like the old longitudinal five's.
The new one will be transverse mounted with smaller turbo with integraded was-gate, more compact exhaust manifold, plastic intake manifold and longer air intake track with bigger air box (more demping).

Jarod.

[Marv]

...if that list wasn't enough, direct injection affects the noise too! You'll still be able to hear the characteristic off-beat sound of the 5 but Jarod is right, it's sadly not going to have the 80s/90s sound of the ur-Quattro or S2.

[crespo]

Nice, long spy video with some good sound clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4IOcFeFBbg

[Leadfoot]

It sounds similar enough to the old Quattros to please me. Maybe others are harder to please.

Hey Jarod. ;)

[The Pretender]

Nice, long spy video with some good sound clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4IOcFeFBbg


It sounds similar enough to the old Quattros to please me. Maybe others are harder to please.

Hey Jarod. ;)

That is the old VR5 turbo testmule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyPm44ocI-s

Jarod.

[SigmaS6]

Hm, just wondering if the engine will really feel different from the TTS one if it has the same concept, i.e. all power is generated by one single turbo. Sure, it will sound differently, but concerning the lag many people didn't like in the TTS i think they should have gone for a classical sequential turbo layout as it was speculated before. Wonder where those plans went, they sounded more likeable...

[The Pretender]

Turbo lag on a TT-S. :vhmmm:
First learn how to drive a turbo car.
There is no turbo lag if you drive a turbo car correctly.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

Turbo lag on a TT-S. :vhmmm:
First learn how to drive a turbo car.
There is no turbo lag if you drive a turbo car correctly.

Jarod.

Jarod is right, you just adapt your driving style to suit.

But Sigma S6 is right that there is lag, though it's not something which could be classed as excessive and to be totally honest with you the lag is among the best of any 4 cylinder engine that I can think of. If you want lag look at the Imperza or EVO, these are two cars which send a telegraph to warn you the boost is coming.

Anyway, I hadn't heard that the final engine spec was known. Is it a single turbo configuration?

[The Pretender]

Anyway, I hadn't heard that the final engine spec was known. Is it a single turbo configuration?
Yes single turbo R5 TFSI, 2458cc, 340 hp, 400 Nm.

Jarod.

[SigmaS6]

Jarod is right, you just adapt your driving style to suit.

That's something you can do on the track. If you use your car for your everyday driving there's no way you can or even want to keep it always in the right rev range for instant power supply.

Call me picky, but even a minor lag is something I'd rather not have for an RS model. We know that a sequential turbo would fix that problem easily and would imo be much more RS-like , i.e. more a technical masterpiece than a standard single turbo setup that is used in cars that cost a quarter of a TT-RS.

I just hate it when they start to save a few hundred bucks in material on a 65k euro car and try to sell the outcome as the optimum technical solution.


If you want lag look at the Imperza or EVO, these are two cars which send a telegraph to warn you the boost is coming.

Of course there are way more extreme examples, but I like to look at the optimum solution as a reference instead of cases where engineers did worse :)

Btw, concerning the engine spec I heard something about 320 hp lately. Hope that's not true, but the single turbo setup made the power decrease sound realistic all of a sudden...

[youry]

Yes single turbo R5 TFSI, 2458cc, 340 hp, 400 Nm.

Jarod.

the pretender ,would you bet your life on this ? in other words how sure are you of this info ?

to put things in perspective this sort of power and torque for a TTRs with a weight I believe will be identical to TTS, woudl equate with sqame power to weight of a RS4 V8 car with 390+hp and 465+ NM...

we know that RS4 V8 has really 370-380hp on a dyno and 390-410 Nm....

this would mean the TTRS would definatley outperfrom the RS4 B7 V8....

and we shoud expect 0-62(100Km.h) below 4.8sec......

I'd love that but are the'y really goign to do this....

the engine can surely do it, no doubt.

if we simply take the TTS output from a 2.0 engine. divide power/torque figures by 2 and multiply by 2.5 we shoud get 340hp (spot on) and 440Nm (here they are lower, but maybe done on purpose to be soft on the future S troninc transmission...

knowing that TTS with simply upgrades (full exhaust with sport cat and engin remap you can extract easy 325-330hp and 420-430Nm divide that by 2 and multiply by 2.5 and you can go slightly above 400hp and you coul get to over 500Nm...

you are getting serious know with a body of 1450-1500 Kgs at most....

Basically you got yourself the perforamnce of a 996 bi turbo....(420hp in a 1550Kg car)........... now we are talking.....

[crespo]

Will this turbo be of the variable-vane variety? That should quell much of whatever turbo lag it may have, and comply with the technological tour-de-force outlook we relate with RS cars.

[youry]

you can forget about that, simply becasue to be able to support the heat they need to be very stong hence very expensive (temperture are much higher than with diesel engines). hence thsi is the reason why today only 997 turbos have this technology... but you also pay close to 150000 EUR for it...

it would be great of course, but not goign to happen

[The Pretender]

the pretender ,would you bet your life on this ? in other words how sure are you of this info ?
you are getting serious know with a body of 1450-1500 Kgs at most....

I would not bet my life on anything in this world.
But most of the time the info i get is solid.
Further i expect the weight of the TT-R under 1450 Kg.
If a TT 3.2 Quattro can weigh 1430Kg max i don't see why a TT-R have to weigh more then that with a lighter engine.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

you can forget about that, simply becasue to be able to support the heat they need to be very stong hence very expensive (temperture are much higher than with diesel engines). hence thsi is the reason why today only 997 turbos have this technology... but you also pay close to 150000 EUR for it..

it would be great of course, but not goign to happen

Porsche may want you to believe that but Nissan proved that you can get better performance for half the price

[The Pretender]

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Jarod.

[The Pretender]

A quintessential point and a highlight of the TT-R(S) by the way sit in
the drive strand and is still not used in any other Audi vehicle.
A stupid rumour say the TT-R(S) will used a longitudinal engine layout with the same drivetrain as the Nissan GT-R. :vhmmm:

http://www.motivemag.com/Content/uploads/1/gtr_dsg_gearbox.jpg

Borg Warner also profide Audi with Turbo chargers and Q7 gearbox.

Jarod.

[trick]

If there was already a dealer presentation in Portugal, then there will be more presentations around the world and perhaps some more details will emerge :hihi:

Q7 would be very nice but unlikely I think. Also, looking at the Clubsport, I think it's clear that Audi wont be changing the engine layout.

Wonder if there's any truth in the twin turbo rumours...

[The Pretender]

Wonder if there's any truth in the twin turbo rumours...
No, it will be a 2458cc R5T big single turbo TFSI engine with 340 hp and 400 Nm.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

Just back from a business trip and now there's talk about a GTR type setup. I haven't heard of such a thing and I personally can't believe that Audi would change the TT/R's layout when all others use transfer and Haldex. But I would love to see this, the GTR is an incredible machine and has won over the press and car fans alike.

Also, I thought the engine setup was a known quantity, 2.5L 5cly, the number of turbos connected will be determined by the output, 340hp (single) 370~380 (twin).

[tvrfan]

why has audi decided to take a single turbo instead of the twin-turbo? first TT-RS mules had twin-turbos right? or was it from begin on a single turbo?

plz help

[The Pretender]

why has audi decided to take a single turbo instead of the twin-turbo? first TT-RS mules had twin-turbos right? or was it from begin on a single turbo?

plz help
It was a single turbo from the start, they never had or planning 2 turbo's for it.
They have had a look @ Twincharging in the beginning.

Jarod.

[The Pretender]

http://www.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_573/car_photo_286851_25.jpg
http://www.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_573/car_photo_286848_25.jpg
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Jarod.

[trick]

Rear diff looks slightly bulkier than the TTS. Wonder if it has the XWD eLSD add on?

[Leadfoot]

Rear diff looks slightly bulkier than the TTS. Wonder if it has the XWD eLSD add on?

Well spotted, I totally missed that one.

One thing is for sure, the TT/RS info is very thin on the ground and there has to be a reason for that. ;)

[trick]

Front discs look vented too, on this and the previous Roadster pics. Can't be 100% tho.

[Qisha]

Front discs look vented too, on this and the previous Roadster pics. Can't be 100% tho.

Dear trick,

let me "zoom" that for you: actually the front disc is 365mmx34mm, similar to the one used on the C5 RS6.

Qisha

[trick]

Here's a better picture. Seems to have fewer vents than the RS6?

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1868/ttrsventswm2.jpg

[Leadfoot]

Dear trick,

let me "zoom" that for you: actually the front disc is 365mmx34mm, similar to the one used on the C5 RS6.

Qisha

To require this size means only one thing, it's intended to be tracked. :incar:

[The Pretender]

Der Audi TT RS Bestellung Ihrer Erstausstattungsfahrzeuge.

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

im April 2006 fand am Brandenburger Tor in Berlin die Weltpremiere des neuen Audi TT statt. Vor einem exklusiven Publikum wurde an diesem Abend die zweite Generation der Design-Ikone präsentiert. Seit Mai 2008 ist auch der Audi TTS bestellbar. Im Rahmen des Händlermeetings in Lissabon wurde nun ein weiteres Highlight der TT-Familie vorgestellt – der Audi TT RS.
Der TT RS ist ein Novum: Erstmals treffen die Audi RS Gene auf einen Sportwagen. Der TT RS verkörpert somit die Philosophie der Audi RS-Familie in ihrer reinsten Form.
Mit seinem neu entwickelten 5-Zylinder Turbo-FSI-Triebwerk mit beeindruckenden 340 PS und 450 Newtonmetern Drehmoment bietet der neue TT RS eine Perfomance, die im Sportwagen-Segment ihresgleichen sucht. Und das bei erstaunlich günstigen Verbrauchswerten.
Von Null auf Hundert schafft er es in 4,5 Sekunden bei einem Durchschnittsverbrauch von weniger als 10 Litern.
Mit diesem Anschreiben möchten wir Sie bitten, die Bestellung Ihres Erstausstattungsfahrzeugs für den Audi TT RS Coupé/TT RS Rodaster vorzunehmen.
Zur Markteinführung Anfang des 3. Quartals 2009 steht Ihnen nachfolgende
Motor-/Getriebevariante zur Verfügung:

TT RS Coupé/ TT RS Roadster 2.5 TFSI 250 kW (340 PS) 6-Gang quattro

Durch exklusive, sportliche Designelemente erhält der Audi TT RS eine eigene Identität, die eine hohe Begeisterungsfähigkeit ausstrahlt. Nachfolgend stellen wir Ihnen exemplarisch einige Differenzierungsumfänge des Audi TT RS vor.

Differenzierungsumfänge Audi TT RS – Exterieur:
18" Aluminium-Gussräder im 5-Doppelspeichen-Design
zweiflutige Abgasanlage mit ovalen Endrohren links und rechts
Stoßfänger im RS Design mit großflächigen Lufteinlässen vorn und markantem Diffusoreinsatz hinten
Kühlergrill im Rautendesign schwarz hochglänzend mit Rahmen in Aluminiumoptik matt
feststehender RS Heckflügel
Außenspiegelgehäuse in Aluminiumoptik matt
Differenzierungsumfänge Audi TT RS Interieur:

Sportsitze in Alcantara/Leder schwarz mit Kontrastnähten in silber; inkl. TT RS Prägung in den Vordersitzlehnen
Kombiinstrument mit TT RS Schriftzug und Fahrerinformationssystem mit RS Menü (Ladedruck- und Öltemperaturanzeige, Laptimer)
RS Multifunktions-Sportlederlenkrad im 3-Speichen-Design, unten abgeflacht
Bedienelemente mit Bezug in perforiertem Leder und Kontrastnähten in silber
Dekoreinlagen Aluminium matt gebürstet
Türinnenbetätigung im RS Design

Neben der exklusiven Lackierung Suzukagrau Metallic stehen weitere acht Außenfarben, davon vier exklusive RS Lackierungen zur Verfügung. Die möglichen Bestellvarianten entnehmen Sie bitte dem Variantenbaum. Bitte haben Sie Verständnis dafür, dass es innerhalb des Variantenbaumes zu produktionsbedingten Änderungen kommen kann, über die wir Sie selbstverständlich so schnell wie möglich informieren werden.

Mit der heutigen Marktabfrage wollen wir gemeinsam mit Ihnen die ersten Schritte für eine erfolgreiche Markteinführung des Audi TT RS im Jahre 2009 einleiten.
Wir bitten Sie, Ihre Erstausstattung bis Freitag, den 07.11.2008 in NEWADA in der Transaktion VNA1 zu spezifizieren.
Für jeden Audi Partner ist ein Markteinführungsfahrzeug vorgesehen (TT RS Coupé oder TT RS Roadster).
Bei Fragen zu Ihrer Erstausstattung können Sie sich gerne an Ihre zuständige Verkaufssteuerung wenden.

Bitte stellen Sie sicher, dass diese Unterlagen in Ihrem Hause in jedem Fall streng vertraulich behandelt werden.

Wir sind überzeugt, dass Sie Ihre Kunden und Interessenten mit dem Audi TT RS begeistern werden. Wir wünschen Ihnen viel Spaß und Erfolg bei der Markteinführung des
Audi TT RS.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

AUDI AG

Jarod.

[The RS6]

Translated to english! (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rs6.com%2Fforum%2Fsho wpost.php%3Fp%3D144486%26postcount%3D77&hl=hr&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en)

[tvrfan]

no DSG????????

[trick]

Great post Jarod!

They do mention that there may be production changes. 3rd Q 2009? That's a whole 12 months away...

Still, 4.5 to 62 (100).. that's quick ... R8 v8 is 4.4s.

Sukuka grey metallic + 4 exclusive colours. Other than that it's a TTS with an extra "R" on the logos; +70 bhp and a fixed spoiler(?). No vented discs, no new diff, not even bucket seats? I dont think we have the full story here...

[SigmaS6]

no DSG????????
Strange indeed. I mean sure, they have to offer that car as manual as well as many people still think of the DSG as some kind of old men 4-speed autobox, but with BMW, other Audis and Porsche offering the DSG I doubt this was an explicit decision. I guess they just didn't manage to get it ready in time (even though they had plenty), which is a shame as faster acceleration times and lower fuel consumption are usually a good marketing instrument.

But then again the letter says that each dealer can only order one RS demo car, so maybe they can't ramp up production fast enough to offer one manual and one DSG to each dealer. But probably they just repeat the A5 story where it took like forever as well till they had the DL500 ready and they didn't seem to care either.

[PeterJohn]

That they mention the manual gearbox in the cars' name might be a sign that alternative options will follow.

[Leadfoot]

That they mention the manual gearbox in the cars' name might be a sign that alternative options will follow.

Actually all it says is TT/RS 6speed Quattro and currently the only S/Tronic only sale in this configuration of Audi is a 6speed. Though I am not arguing that in this case it isn't a manual, only highlighting this fact. ;)

[PeterJohn]

Actually all it says is TT/RS 6speed Quattro and currently the only S/Tronic only sale in this configuration of Audi is a 6speed. Though I am not arguing that in this case it isn't a manual, only highlighting this fact. ;)

Perhaps. But when they just mention the amount of gears, it's usually a manual.

Didn't the spy cars have DSG?

[The Pretender]

Perhaps. But when they just mention the amount of gears, it's usually a manual.

Didn't the spy cars have DSG?
No DSG in the mule's, all are manual's.
You can even hear in de spy movie that it is a manual.

Jarod.

[tvrfan]

2 questions


1:::: will the TT RS have DSG later???

2:::: will it become the sportdiff.???? (TQ)

[ZeroCool]

@tvrfan...

It will sure have S-Tronic - but the question is when...

it won't become the Sportdiff. for sure :D just kidding
if it's going to get it - that's another question ;)

[SigmaS6]

Actually all it says is TT/RS 6speed Quattro and currently the only S/Tronic only sale in this configuration of Audi is a 6speed. Though I am not arguing that in this case it isn't a manual, only highlighting this fact. ;)
But as there's no 6 speed DSG that can handle more than 350Nm and Audi wont develop any new 6 speed versions anymore it's implicitly clear that they only offer a manual version at this stage ;)

If I take into account that the first TTS demo cars were only delivered to the dealers after the first customers had theirs already, that means they don't even think they can manage to get the DSG ready within the next 3 quarters (otherwise they could already offer that option by now).

I'm surprised by the feedback so far though, I though I was more or less the only one who'd prefer a DSG version.

[The Pretender]

I'm glad it's a manual, otherwise i would not have any interest in the TT RS if it was DSG only.

Jarod.

[tvrfan]

so DSG comes for sure??? and whats with the sportdiff.??? is it coming or not

[Rage]

But as there's no 6 speed DSG that can handle more than 350Nm and Audi wont develop any new 6 speed versions anymore it's implicitly clear that they only offer a manual version at this stage ;)

If I take into account that the first TTS demo cars were only delivered to the dealers after the first customers had theirs already, that means they don't even think they can manage to get the DSG ready within the next 3 quarters (otherwise they could already offer that option by now).

I'm surprised by the feedback so far though, I though I was more or less the only one who'd prefer a DSG version.

I'd only be interested in a DSG model. TTRS sounds great bar the fact that no DSG has been announced.

[SigmaS6]

I'm glad it's a manual, otherwise i would not have any interest in the TT RS if it was DSG only.
It's still unthinkable to exclusively offer a DSG version of a sporty car, but I guess we agree that every modern sporty car should offer that option. The problem with Audi is that you never know if or when they'll have a missing option ready as they don't talk about 'future' products. So for the potential customer it's pure uncertainty.

[tvrfan]

is the DSG coming for the TT-RS later??? and is the TT-RS getting the sportdiff.??? and when not, why???

[The Pretender]

Just wait and see what Audi have in petto for you with the TT RS.
It will be "VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK".

Jarod.

[youry]

one thing surprised it will still get called TT RS with all the talk around Porsche not agreeing about having RS used for AUDI cars after the name of the car...

Happy to see that......

[PeterJohn]

Just wait and see what Audi have in petto for you with the TT RS.
It will be "VORSPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK".

Jarod.

Jarod slips up, or is The Pretender getting too cocky? Ik ben vrij zeker dat "in petto" enkel Nederlands is.

[roadrunner]

one thing surprised it will still get called TT RS with all the talk around Porsche not agreeing about having RS used for AUDI cars after the name of the car...

Happy to see that......


They settled that matter - for good, i hope. Audi is allowed to use the "RS" designation

[Qisha]

one thing surprised it will still get called TT RS with all the talk around Porsche not agreeing about having RS used for AUDI cars after the name of the car...

Happy to see that......

Dear Friends,

actually this "official" document is fake. It is based on the TT Clubsport market introduction whitepaper, released to german dealers earlier this month. However some technical details/specifications are shared...

Do not assume word for word. ;)

Qisha

[The Pretender]

Dear Friends,

actually this "official" document is fake.
Do you think so :doh: i was almost certain it was real. :hahahehe:

Jarod.

[Rage]

Woops...

[SigmaS6]

actually this "official" document is fake.
DSG-wise that would give new hope, performance-wise this would make you wonder if the 320hp rumours might be true instead and ruin those 0-60 times in the 'dealer document'. Back to square one it is :)

[youry]

if it is who wouldwant to do this for sake of poisening our lives...

[The Pretender]

if it is who wouldwant to do this for sake of poisening our lives...
Not me, i just found it on a german forum and put it up here.

Jarod.

[Qisha]

if it is who wouldwant to do this for sake of poisening our lives...

Dear youry, dear Friends,

i am not saying the stated figures are wrong but this document has never been forwarded to dealerships, nowhere- as it simple isnt made by Audi nor any associated part of it. To me this summary is based on inside sources paired with wishful thinking. BUT you can expect most it as expected.

Qisha

[Leadfoot]

Dear youry, dear Friends,

i am not saying the stated figures are wrong but this document has never been forwarded to dealerships, nowhere- as it simple isnt made by Audi nor any associated part of it. To me this summary is based on inside sources paired with wishful thinking. BUT you can expect most it as expected.

Qisha

I think this was clever marketing by Audi to get some info out there with enough misinformation to keep interest going prior to the launch and have the competition guessing.

[artur777]

I think this was clever marketing by Audi to get some info out there with enough misinformation to keep interest going prior to the launch and have the competition guessing.

nice one notice
agree on it
if most of the info is valid, it will be a little beast and it's Ring time will be close to that of the R8 V8

[Leadfoot]

nice one notice
agree on it
if most of the info is valid, it will be a little beast and it's Ring time will be close to that of the R8 V8

Now you see why all along I have championed this little car. ;)

[KresoF1]

Well, accoding to my info this "little car" is still more then 10s slower on the Ring then latest R8(V8 with Magnetic Ride).

TTR natural competitors will be FL Cayman S and butt ugly Nissan 370Z, maybe even BMW M3...

[artur777]

Well, accoding to my info this "little car" is still more then 10s slower on the Ring then latest R8(V8 with Magnetic Ride).

TTR natural competitors will be FL Cayman S and butt ugly Nissan 370Z, maybe even BMW M3...


KresoF1,

what time do you expect from latest R8 - below 8 mins?
then 8:05 is a good time for TT-RS - it's like Carrera 911S pre-FL!

[Leadfoot]

KresoF1,

what time do you expect from latest R8 - below 8 mins?
then 8:05 is a good time for TT-RS - it's like Carrera 911S pre-FL!

If it achieves a time similar to the M3 then surely that is a feather in your cap in it's own right. In fact there isn't too many cars of similar power to weigh capable of such a time.

Given the choice, who would seriously consider the M3 when the TT/RS was just as capable and if it was as quick on a course like the dreaded Nurburgring which is a high speed track that rewards horsepower more than any other that would mean the TT/RS would undoubtably be quicker on shorter more complexed tracks like Hockenheim.

Like I have been saying for long enough, it's the prince in the RS line-up.

[KresoF1]

Auto Bild Sportscars Edition tested latest R8 against Porsche 997.2C4S on the Ring.
Driver was Sascha Bert(FIA GT3 race driver).

R8(Magnetic Ride, Ceramics and standard Pirelli P Zero tires) 8:01,9min

997.2C4S(SPASM, Ceramics, PDK, standrard Bridgestone RE050 tires) 8:04,5min

Do not forget that Sport Auto Horst von Saurma achived 8:04min with one of the first R8(Standard suspension, Ceramics, Pirelli Corsa tires).

So, with latest Pirelli Corsa Evoluzione or Michelin Pilot Cup+ tires R8(V8) is capable 7.54min-7.50min depending on the Ring conditions(ambient temperature and track temperature) and driver(some are more capable then others-with Frank Stippler close to 7.50min).

DO NOT expect 8:05min for TTR. BUT, you can expect 8:10min...

[Leadfoot]

Auto Bild Sportscars Edition tested latest R8 against Porsche 997.2C4S on the Ring.
Driver was Sascha Bert(FIA GT3 race driver).

R8(Magnetic Ride, Ceramics and standard Pirelli P Zero tires) 8:01,9min

997.2C4S(SPASM, Ceramics, PDK, standrard Bridgestone RE050 tires) 8:04,5min

Do not forget that Sport Auto Horst von Saurma achived 8:04min with one of the first R8(Standard suspension, Ceramics, Pirelli Corsa tires).

So, with latest Pirelli Corsa Evoluzione or Michelin Pilot Cup+ tires R8(V8) is capable 7.54min-7.50min depending on the Ring conditions(ambient temperature and track temperature) and driver(some are more capable then others-with Frank Stippler close to 7.50min).

DO NOT expect 8:05min for TTR. BUT, you can expect 8:10min...

Depends on tyres chosen for the test, Cup+ and close to the M3 is on the cards. Keep the faith.

I thought the 997C2S with r-compound did it in 7:50min, that's a full 15 seconds quicker. If so then surely the TT/RS can at least pull close to 10 seconds off it's time.

[ZeroCool]

it's just in german ;) sorry

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/test-porsche-911-carrera-4s_audi-r8_799424.html

Nordschleife:
Carrera 4S-PDK: 8:04,52 min
Audi R8 R-tronic: 8:01,90 min

[SigmaS6]

I think this was clever marketing by Audi to get some info out there with enough misinformation to keep interest going prior to the launch and have the competition guessing.
Wouldn't they make them guess more by not releasing any info? To me it seems confusing especially to those who wait for the car. And if they want to know what people think of the spec, they just have to read boards like these :)

[artur777]

Auto Bild Sportscars Edition tested latest R8 against Porsche 997.2C4S on the Ring.
Driver was Sascha Bert(FIA GT3 race driver).

R8(Magnetic Ride, Ceramics and standard Pirelli P Zero tires) 8:01,9min

997.2C4S(SPASM, Ceramics, PDK, standrard Bridgestone RE050 tires) 8:04,5min

Do not forget that Sport Auto Horst von Saurma achived 8:04min with one of the first R8(Standard suspension, Ceramics, Pirelli Corsa tires).

So, with latest Pirelli Corsa Evoluzione or Michelin Pilot Cup+ tires R8(V8) is capable 7.54min-7.50min depending on the Ring conditions(ambient temperature and track temperature) and driver(some are more capable then others-with Frank Stippler close to 7.50min).

DO NOT expect 8:05min for TTR. BUT, you can expect 8:10min...

Interesting info!
But: if Porsche claims of its 997.2 CS being capable of 7-50 at the Ring and here we see only 8-04 and R8 is also capable of posting times seriously below 8 mins dead, then:

we can hope for the TT-RS to cut off its 8-10 mins time about 5 secs if it is driven by a more professional driver and with Cup+ tyres.

does this sound logical?
Leadfoot in his post also says about that.

[The Pretender]

More mule picture's.

White Roadster.
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_IV/images/181_2586.jpg
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_IV/images/181_2587.jpg
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_IV/images/181_2588.jpg
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_IV/images/181_2589.jpg

Blue Roadster.
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_III/images/181_1884.jpg
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_III/images/181_1887.jpg

Grey Coupe'
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_III/images/181_1889.jpg
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_III/images/181_1890.jpg
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_III/images/181_1891.jpg
http://www.ring-bilder.de/galerien_readyfornet/tf_20102008_III/images/181_1892.jpg

Jarod.

[Ruergard]

Audi really is out there testing... I really like the looks of that grey coupé. Can't wait for the real thing!

[SigmaS6]

Wonder what they are testing that needs so many cars...

[The Pretender]

Wonder what they are testing that needs so many cars...
Most likely the new R5T engine.
And the white Roadster is a right hand drive.

Jarod.

[SigmaS6]

I'm still hoping one of them is a DSG version :)

[The Pretender]

http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_01.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_02.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_03.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_04.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_05.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_06.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_07.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_08.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_09.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_10.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_11.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_12.jpg
http://www.hadel.net/autos/assets/2008/pkw/pkw_audi_tt_rs_erlk01_13.jpg

Jarod.

[Rage]

pics not working.....

[HKS786]

Here they are:

[HKS786]

More pics here:

[The Pretender]

pics not working.....
I know could not change it though.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

I am looking forward to seeing the rear apron being uncovered to see if the exhaust pipes are inboard like the R8 or like the rest of the RS range.

[The Pretender]

I am looking forward to seeing the rear apron being uncovered to see if the exhaust pipes are inboard like the R8 or like the rest of the RS range.
Leady they are inboard like the R8.

Jarod.