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Michaël Barbé
August 16th, 2008, 14:05
http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2008/08/16/bb-audi-rs6-met-715-pk-wie-biedt-er-meer

sorry for Dutch article

MB
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Michaël Barbé
August 16th, 2008, 14:12
0-100km/h: 3.6sec:D :wo: :dance:

Love to see a video with sound of that B&B car!

MTM or B&B?:)

MB
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RS6Driver
August 16th, 2008, 14:44
I would pick that over the MTM version every day of the week.

Michaël Barbé
August 16th, 2008, 16:43
I would pick that over the MTM version every day of the week.

and why is that?

anyone with an article in English??

MB
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Ruergard
August 16th, 2008, 16:47
Insane numbers... Still waiting for 0-200 km/h and 100-200 km/h times for a chipped version.

Saw another 0-200 km/h time for a Avant in an english magazine yesterday, 13.8 seconds. Impressive...

PeterJohn
August 16th, 2008, 16:48
I would pick that over the MTM version every day of the week.

Isn't B&B owned by, or in a partnership with MTM?

Michaël Barbé
August 16th, 2008, 16:50
Isn't B&B owned by, or in a partnership with MTM?

Don't know that, would be weird, no?

http://www.babez.de/2008/08/bb-audi-rs6-v10-sport-wagon/

MB
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Michaël Barbé
August 16th, 2008, 16:55
The pictures of the white RS6 are taken on the same beach of the white rs6 of audifreak. No?

It even looks like the same rs6. But his is an MTM and this is a B&B...

MB
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audi_ch
August 16th, 2008, 18:22
sorry to say but B&B has a very bad reputation under most german and swiss rs drivers.

Would definitly take sportec, at least they have already a nice dino graph off the chipped rs6 c6

on B&B website you see hardly never dino graph and when really strange.

But everybody as he wish

Michaël Barbé
August 16th, 2008, 21:50
sorry to say but B&B has a very bad reputation under most german and swiss rs drivers.

Would definitly take sportec, at least they have already a nice dino graph off the chipped rs6 c6

on B&B website you see hardly never dino graph and when really strange.

But everybody as he wish

I did not know that! maybe good to know! has Sportec already have a chipped version?

MB
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Georgious86
August 16th, 2008, 22:08
Insane numbers... Still waiting for 0-200 km/h and 100-200 km/h times for a chipped version.

Saw another 0-200 km/h time for a Avant in an english magazine yesterday, 13.8 seconds. Impressive...

0-200 km/h in 13.8 sec???!!! do you mean this figures are for stock version rs6 avant???

RXBG
August 16th, 2008, 22:21
0-200 km/h (0-124 m/h) in 13.8 not that great. the M6 can do 0-124 m/h in 12.7. the M5 in 13.3. for a car that is 4 yrs newer and has 80 more hp i'd expect something around 12 flat.

Z07
August 16th, 2008, 23:25
The RS6 isn't that fast in a straight line but puts in good lap times for a big fella. 0-200kph is quoted at 14.9s. The English magazine - Evo - measured 13.8s from 0-120mph for a stock RS6.

audi_ch
August 16th, 2008, 23:54
and one official number from audi 14,9.. why should audi claim 1,1 sec slower number than waht is real..

Sorry, many magasins mesure not on 100% stright roads, but they dont informe us about this fact. Say on 500 meter road we have a hight difference of 10 meters, we cant see that with our eyes, but the car definitly accelerates better one way then the opposite way....

Her the graph from sportec

Ruergard
August 17th, 2008, 22:08
0-200 km/h in 13.8 sec???!!! do you mean this figures are for stock version rs6 avant???

Yes, a stock Avant.

PeterJohn
August 17th, 2008, 22:26
Don't know that, would be weird, no?

http://www.babez.de/2008/08/bb-audi-rs6-v10-sport-wagon/

MB
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Look what happens when you go to the MTM Berlin website: http://www.mtm-berlin.com/en/index.php

http://www.mtm-berlin.com/shared/images/S3_8P_MTM380_med.jpg

Michaël Barbé
August 18th, 2008, 15:27
Look what happens when you go to the MTM Berlin website: http://www.mtm-berlin.com/en/index.php

http://www.mtm-berlin.com/shared/images/S3_8P_MTM380_med.jpg


I did not know that, man!:bigeyes:

I don't understand this: mtm is superrespected but b&b hasn't got a good image...

And mtm does 702hp (3,9sec-100km/h) but b&b does 715hp (3,6- 100km/h)

MB
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Michaël Barbé
August 18th, 2008, 15:30
And if you select the wallpapers it's al MTM... (http://www.mtm-berlin.com/en/wallpapers.html)

Someone who can explain all this? Frederic Balsen maybe?

MB
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Michaël Barbé
August 18th, 2008, 16:48
AHA: found it: MTM:"our authorized dealer Berlin (B&B Motorsport)"

It's as simple as that...

More comment on the liability of B&B please!!

MB
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ben916
August 18th, 2008, 18:42
AHA: found it: MTM:"our authorized dealer Berlin (B&B Motorsport)"

It's as simple as that...

More comment on the liability of B&B please!!

MB
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Balsen & Balsen Motorsports????

Michaël Barbé
August 18th, 2008, 18:50
Balsen & Balsen Motorsports????

:D Don't think so mate

Mr. Balsen is from MTM France

MB
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ben916
August 18th, 2008, 19:08
:D Don't think so mate

Mr. Balsen is from MTM France

MB
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Well is certainly ISN'T BENMAN & BEN916 SoCal .... :lovl:

Hey! thats not a bad idea.....

Michaël Barbé
August 18th, 2008, 21:33
Well is certainly ISN'T BENMAN & BEN916 SoCal .... :lovl:

Hey! thats not a bad idea.....

:D

I really don't know what it is. Where are the MTM-guys if you need 'em?

MB
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MTMBerlin
August 20th, 2008, 19:18
So here we go :) There is a big difference betwenn us (B&B Motorsport / MTM Berlin) and B&B Automobiltechnik. Definitely 2 different pair of shoes :p Although B&B Automobiltechnik claims 715bhp you will probably not feel or see any difference to the 702bhp MTM version. If you need more information just let me know :)

Erik
August 20th, 2008, 19:20
Although B&B Automobiltechnik claims 715bhp you will probably not feel or see any difference to the 702bhp MTM version.

You will definetly feel any difference, if there is any.

More a marketing thing IMO. :brag:

MTMBerlin
August 20th, 2008, 19:29
You will definetly feel any difference, if there is any.

More a marketing thing IMO. :brag:

It's all about marketing you know :D If you look at MTM figures you will definitely see that they usually claim less power than the cars often have after being modified. This way a customer is much more satisfied. Furthermore 702bhp do look some kind of ugly - they could have said 700bhp also - but that is MTM's nature - giving the facts from what they've measured so far. B&B Automobiltechnik probably thought 715bhp sounds much nicer than 702bhp and is also more considering pure numbers so why not - go marketing go :)

MTMBerlin
August 20th, 2008, 19:32
The pictures of the white RS6 are taken on the same beach of the white rs6 of audifreak. No?

It even looks like the same rs6. But his is an MTM and this is a B&B...

MB
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Look at the faked license plate (its absolutely blurry) - in my opinion even the wheels have been faked into the picture. I guess someone from B&B Automobiltechnik have spotted the pictures from the white RS6 and then made some modifications. Also pay attention to the stickers and their positions on the 2 pictures (one one its closer to the end of the door!). It takes approximately 2min to fake in the B&B Automobiltechnik Logos into the picture. I guess the only one they've modified so far is the black one (which seems to be a corporation with H&R for the springs or as it more likely seems - the coilovers).

The customer with the white RS6 also owns an S5. He actually bought the springs, MTM 21" wheels and MTM rear silencer for his S5 from us. This guy is from Flensburg which is near to Denmark. His license plates start with FL (for either the S5 and the RS6). He is going to buy MTM 21" wheels for his white RS6 also - stay tuned for more pictures from us.

And don`t believe every picture out there :)

http://www.babez.de/wp-content/myfotos/bb-audi-rs6-v10-sport-wagon/bb-audi-rs6-v10-sport-wagon-4.jpg
http://www.babez.de/wp-content/myfotos/bb-audi-rs6-v10-sport-wagon/bb-audi-rs6-v10-sport-wagon-5.jpg

Erik
August 20th, 2008, 20:04
It's all about marketing you know :D If you look at MTM figures you will definitely see that they usually claim less power than the cars often have after being modified. This way a customer is much more satisfied.

Hey, I sell Ruf cars and tuning so I know. :D

What they say is more like a minimum than anything else.

xxx hp here or there is for bragging in the bar.

Performance figures, i.e. acceleration or lap times, is what interests me and tell me so much more.

Btw, our Ruf R Turbo (996TT based) demo car did 100 - 200 km/h in 5.6 secs (Driftbox measuring). :hahahehe:

The Veyron does it in 4.9 according to AMS. Anyone with a Veyron who would like to do a try?

Michaël Barbé
August 20th, 2008, 21:19
Look at the faked license plate (its absolutely blurry) - in my opinion even the wheels have been faked into the picture. I guess someone from B&B Automobiltechnik have spotted the pictures from the white RS6 and then made some modifications. Also pay attention to the stickers and their positions on the 2 pictures (one one its closer to the end of the door!). It takes approximately 2min to fake in the B&B Automobiltechnik Logos into the picture. I guess the only one they've modified so far is the black one (which seems to be a corporation with H&R for the springs or as it more likely seems - the coilovers).

The customer with the white RS6 also owns an S5. He actually bought the springs, MTM 21" wheels and MTM rear silencer for his S5 from us. This guy is from Flensburg which is near to Denmark. His license plates start with FL (for either the S5 and the RS6). He is going to buy MTM 21" wheels for his white RS6 also - stay tuned for more pictures from us.

And don`t believe every picture out there :)


That's what I said!! This rs6 is from audifreak!!

MB
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liwi
August 29th, 2008, 21:17
B&B - diese beiden Buchstaben stehen für die Firmengründer und geschäftsführenden Gesellschafter Siegfried Becker und Michael Bentler.
Seit der Gründung im Jahre 1984 hat das Tuningunternehmen"B&B Automobiltechnik" aufgrund der technischen Kompetenz und konstant zuverlässigen und innovativen Arbeitsweise seine Stellung im Umfeld der bekanntesten Tuner behauptet und darüber hinaus stetig ausgebaut

Taken from their website:
http://www.bb-automobiltechnik.de/bb2004/en/news/index.php