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The Pretender
July 9th, 2008, 20:35
The TT-S still not uses the EA888 engine.
The question is when will the new EA888 engine be introduced in the TT range.
The new 211 hp 2.0TFSI EA888 engine is in use in the new A4.
In the German forum there are also two official Audi mails that confirm that the TTS uses the EA888 engine block,
but as we know that's not the case.

Jarod.

AndyBG
July 9th, 2008, 22:23
Maybe a stupid question, but, what's the difference between those blocks...?

The Pretender
July 9th, 2008, 22:29
Maybe a stupid question, but, what's the difference between those blocks...?
The old one is belt driven and the new EA888 chain driven.
The belt is on the end of the engine and the chain is @ the flywheel side of the engine.

Jarod.

MPT
July 9th, 2008, 23:12
When talking about EA888 2.0TFSI i think the biggest change is, not that it got chain instead of belt, but that it got valvelift. There has also been a lot of other changes (internal and external friction minimization), and it feels like a totally different engine.

Unfortunently the TTS engine is not derived from EA888 2.0TFSI (211ps).

Qisha
July 10th, 2008, 07:06
Dear Friends,

the 2.0 TFSI (EA888) is replacing the 1.8 TFSI (EA888) as base engine in the A5 also-, starting from Model year 2009 (production >26.05.08). Main reason is the high demand for the 1.8 TFSI engine in other cars within the VW group, leading to even greater delayed delivery for the A5.

The EA888 series will replace the EA113 within 2009. It is unsure if the TTS will also be upgraded, but it is mostlikely- with a power output raised to 220KW.

Qisha

Leadfoot
July 10th, 2008, 07:54
Dear Friends,

the 2.0 TFSI (EA888) is replacing the 1.8 TFSI (EA888) as base engine in the A5 also-, starting from Model year 2009 (production >26.05.08). Main reason is the high demand for the 1.8 TFSI engine in other cars within the VW group, leading to even greater delayed delivery for the A5.

The EA888 series will replace the EA113 within 2009. It is unsure if the TTS will also be upgraded, but it is mostlikely- with a power output raised to 220KW.

Qisha

220KW (300ps), now that's the kind of figure which I find interesting. :thumb:

AndyBG
July 10th, 2008, 16:44
Thanks for the info'...

The Pretender
July 10th, 2008, 17:04
220KW (300ps), now that's the kind of figure which I find interesting. :thumb:
Sorry to say, but i think it's bogus to believe that the TT-S is getting 300 hp.
The EA888 2.0TFSI engine have 211 hp, with a small turbo.
To make it a 300 hp EA888 engine they have to do a lot of internal upgrades and put on a bigger turbo.
It's more likely that the TT-S EA113 engine will stay in for a while, and get replaced by something else in the future. ;)

Jarod.

Leadfoot
July 10th, 2008, 17:23
Sorry to say, but i think it's bogus to believe that the TT-S is getting 300 hp.
The EA888 2.0TFSI engine have 211 hp, with a small turbo.
To make it a 300 hp EA888 engine they have to do a lot of internal upgrades and put on a bigger turbo.
It's more likely that the TT-S EA113 engine will stay in for a while, and get replaced by something else in the future. ;)

Jarod.

There is no harm in living in hope. :D

In any case the EA888 engine is capable of 300ps without any internal mods, at least that was what I was told some time ago, whether Audi would chose to increase the output at all if this engine ends up in the TT/S is debatable, personally I doubt they would move the output at all but who knows.

Maybe we may see the 2.0TFSi engine being dropped for something else with the potential of 300ps and possibly a sweeter exhaust note. ;)

The Pretender
July 11th, 2008, 21:41
http://www.audiworld.com/news/08/q5-in-depth/summary/header2.jpg

Jarod.

The Pretender
July 11th, 2008, 21:58
Everything is possible, and yes there is no harm in living in hope.

Jarod.

SigmaS6
July 12th, 2008, 12:31
whether Audi would chose to increase the output at all if this engine ends up in the TT/S is debatable
They even tried to keep the Haldex2 -> Haldex4 switch secret to the customers so that current buyers wont get upset. I don't think they'll upgrade the TTS engine for similar reasons. Well maybe they'll change it at some point (facelift?) but whether they increase the output remains to be seen.

Leadfoot
July 12th, 2008, 13:07
They even tried to keep the Haldex2 -> Haldex4 switch secret to the customers so that current buyers wont get upset. I don't think they'll upgrade the TTS engine for similar reasons. Well maybe they'll change it at some point (facelift?) but whether they increase the output remains to be seen.

They may change things but keep the quoted output figures. ;)

Lateknight
July 14th, 2008, 14:26
A chain driven engine (EA888?) is now being listed for TT And A3 on the tech info.

Code CCZ(A) - 200ps or (147kw) so no Hp increase here :confused:

Production began June '08

chewym
July 14th, 2008, 22:19
There are two versions of the EA888. One that has the same numbers as the old 2.0T (200/207) and the Valvelift version (A4/A5/Q5 only so far) that gets 211/258 and better fuel economy.