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Clio16V
June 27th, 2008, 22:26
GM’s 640Hp and $103,000 Corvette ZR1 has posted one of the fastest times ever recorded on the Nurburgring race track for a totally stock production car: 7 minutes and 26.4 seconds. And yes, the ZR1 has shaved almost three seconds off the 2009 Nissan GT-R’s official time of 7:29.03.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SGUfnFTn-GI/AAAAAAAAvuY/Qk_ZzwYJeuM/s400/Corvette_ZR1.jpg

According to Corvette Chief Engineer Tadge J. Juechter, the ZR1 tested was bone stock with the exception of the communications and safety equipment. The tires were production Michelin Pilot Sport 2 which have been developed specifically for the ZR1 while chassis alignment and vehicle height were set to factory specs.

Likewise, Juechter said that the engine calibrations were absolutely stock, emissions compliant and the car ran on pump (not racing) fuel. In other words, it was the same vehicle as the ones that will roll off the production line in Bowling Green, Kentucky and sold around later this summer.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/06/corvette-zr1-laps-ring-in-7264-beats.html

ben916
June 27th, 2008, 22:51
conditions must have been perfect....

M3 owner
June 28th, 2008, 04:37
I just saw this article on worldcarfans.com & came here to post it only to find it was already here. U guys are faster than the ZR1 & the GTR.
I would be very interested to see the in car video.
I would still take the GTR, it would be more reliable than the vette. I cannot wait to see how Porsche will respond,I am expecting the updated Turbo to be something incredible.

Speedou
June 28th, 2008, 16:44
Hmm...with PS2!?

DJim
June 28th, 2008, 17:44
look at this :P one fast corvette

http://www.vkmag.com/videos/videos_corvette_gaat_heel_erg_hard/

ringtaxi
June 28th, 2008, 18:22
Godzilla ain't angry yet (GTR-Spec-V)!
just might take another few weeks before they shatter that too.

I like corvettes, but the technology packed in the GTR is just of no match specially for the dollar.

In addition I think the Amuze and other versions will be very close if not faster.

Hats off to the vetter though for breaking the record. Straight line performance is hard to match with the blown engine.

What do you guys think, the vetter be able to keep up with the Spec-V??

Clio16V
June 28th, 2008, 18:27
look at this :P one fast corvette

http://www.vkmag.com/videos/videos_corvette_gaat_heel_erg_hard/


That is a guy from the Netherlands in his C6 Z06 @320km/h, we were in Germany with about 80cars. There was also an Audi RS6 Avant with 600HP/800Nm who also did 320km/h! Also 2 RS4's with 530HP

This is another version of the movie of the Z06 :)
http://www.vimeo.com/1237251


THE MOVIE of our meeting: http://arethusa.tweakers.net/~femme/video/cbr08/
The black M3 at the end has about 550HP!

steve
June 28th, 2008, 18:49
That is a guy from the Netherlands in his C6 Z06 @320km/h, we were in Germany with about 80cars. There was also an Audi RS6 Avant with 600HP/800Nm who also did 320km/h!


553hp and 784 Nm :)

Clio16V
June 28th, 2008, 19:35
As far as i know it was about 600HP/800Nm the owner tuned his RS6 a little more just before the meeting. So i was told by the big man ;)
He had some slight problems with the clutch.

steve
June 28th, 2008, 19:43
As far as i know it was about 600HP/800Nm the owner tuned his RS6 a little more just before the meeting. So i was told by the big man ;)
He had some slight problems with the clutch.

even more? :bigeyes:

he is still running stock turbo's, and as far as i know 600hp is not possible with stock turbo's.

however, it certainly is insanely fast! Problems with the clutch have been prominent since beginning of the tuning... 800Nm tends to do that :hihi:

Clio16V
June 28th, 2008, 19:48
This 600HP was accoording to the Dutch master of VAG tuning the absolute limit of the RS6 with almost 100% standard hardware.

Mr Balsen
June 28th, 2008, 20:36
I say no way for 600hp with a standard RS6...

absolutely no way ! ! !

Frederic

Clio16V
June 28th, 2008, 20:58
I say no way for 600hp with a standard RS6...

absolutely no way ! ! !

Frederic

It wasn't standard...it was tuned, as i told, by chipping it and some other small changes, but not bigger turbo's or other/stronger internals etc. It mostly was the software that did it.

Mr Balsen
June 28th, 2008, 21:53
It wasn't standard...it was tuned, as i told, by chipping it and some other small changes, but not bigger turbo's or other/stronger internals etc. It mostly was the software that did it.

Well I really really doubt with standard exhaust, standard cat and standard fuel pump taht you can reach 600hp.

My understanding is that 550hp is not reachable solely because of the standard fuel pump.

My 0,002 euros...

Frederic

Z07
June 28th, 2008, 22:21
I thought the transmission was the issue.

Clio16V
June 29th, 2008, 00:11
This was before he went to the tuner for the last time, torque is know limited to 800Nm.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/853/rs6micheljdcr4368smallcv4.jpg

Leadfoot
June 29th, 2008, 22:37
Can someone explain to me why the corvette does so well on the ring yet all European reviews laugh at it's chassis for ride quality and finesse?

Benman
July 1st, 2008, 19:00
Can someone explain to me why the corvette does so well on the ring yet all European reviews laugh at it's chassis for ride quality and finesse?


Perhaps because the Brits are biased against sports cars from this side of the pond. ;) Seriously though, the ride is harsh in those things, I am talking Porsche harsh (sorry Andy :D).

Wait till the V-Spec comes out. $103K Corvette trumps $70K Nissan... no biggie there. ;)

Ben:addict:

ben916
July 1st, 2008, 21:21
Harsh... that is a nice word for the ride... I was just thankful that I strapped myself in well in the 07 non Z06 Vette I rode in...

I would have a difficult time spending $103k on a new Corvette (V10 RS6, easier time). Ok, yeah GM stuffed in a supercharged LS9 motor. Ok yeah it makes gobs of horsepower. But is it really worth $103k?!? The Z06 was around $70k... Is there $33k worth of performance? For the deadhard new corvette fans, I would say yes. For the guys that want the most bang for the buck, I wouldn't be so sure...

Three things are for sure:
1. There will be a flood of Z06's on the market soon...
2. There is some fool(s) that will wrap one/several around a tree or a lightpole thereby increasing the "rareness" of the ZL1.(Case in point(s): Enzo's, R8's, F40, F50... )
3. Depreciation is a bitch...

Give me a '63 split window or a '67 427 tripower convertible, anyday over this one...

JavierNuvolari
July 2nd, 2008, 00:16
Meh...just bring a V-Spec GT-R as Benman said.
I would have a GT-R over this any day, but mainly because I just don't have enough skills to drive such monster.

Z07
July 2nd, 2008, 09:02
Can someone explain to me why the corvette does so well on the ring yet all European reviews laugh at it's chassis for ride quality and finesse?

Some European mags are shit.:D Let's face it, it's just beaten a £400k Zonda F Clubsport by 1.42 seconds on the most trying track on the planet. Very narrow, bumpy in places etc.

Leadfoot
July 2nd, 2008, 12:02
Z07,

There is a difference between grip and chassis balance/finesse. Through huge tyres on it anything and you will up it's cornering speeds.

ben916
July 2nd, 2008, 18:23
Z07,

There is a difference between grip and chassis balance/finesse. Through huge tyres on it anything and you will up it's cornering speeds.

Sure about that word "anything"???

http://www.terex.com/image.php?imageID=15

http://www.terex.com/main.php?obj=prod&action=VIEW&id=15&nav=prod&cid=182b2104d7a1ce2c68b57b49f8c1436c

Leadfoot
July 2nd, 2008, 18:43
Sure about that word "anything"???

http://www.terex.com/image.php?imageID=15

http://www.terex.com/main.php?obj=prod&action=VIEW&id=15&nav=prod&cid=182b2104d7a1ce2c68b57b49f8c1436c

You have to try one of these on skinny tyres, they are a death trap. :hihi:

ben916
July 2nd, 2008, 18:53
You have to try one of these on skinny tyres, they are a death trap. :hihi:

If I had to take the corvette over that big truck, well twist my arm, I would take it...

Corvette 1.5 ton plus/minus and 650HP
Terex 91 ton and 1050 HP...

ott
July 3rd, 2008, 13:20
Many US cars are piece of *hit according to European standards, but C6 Vette is exception and there are few more. It's not that easy to change peoples (and journalists) perceptions here in Europe. I have driven Z06 (on the track) and it was very good. ZR1 must be total ovekill, as Z06 has already plenty of power to put it mildly.

I would take big cube RWD V8 any day over Pentium controlled 4WD turbo rocket, regardless what lapitmes they can achieve. Those cars are for fun, not for racing and you never use that last fraction of their capabilities. But sound you hear every time and going sideways around corners is too much fun to miss it.

RXBG
July 3rd, 2008, 15:54
not sure why there is so much hating on the ZR1 here. from what i can see the ZR1 interior is at least up to par with the GTR's. no, it will not be as easy to drive (not that the GTR is a cream puff either), but it is significantly faster. and what NO ONE has credited the ZR1 with is the the fact that it produced such astounding numbers with a regular manual transmision. no DSG. no star wars awd system and electronics. just the magnetic suspension.

had the vette been given a DSG it would have obliterated the GTR. furthermore. for all those who talk up the spec V. that car's power will not be a huge step up since the GTR's official hp figures have been kept low in anticipation of this variant. the 3.6 TT V6 is maxxed out. the spec V's performnce will come mainly in the way of weight loss. so what you will have is a cheaped down GTR interior and an engine that is one step away from having a heart attack. it'll cost close to 100K and make the ZR1 a better value.

Benman
July 4th, 2008, 00:00
from what i can see the ZR1 interior is at least up to par with the GTR's.
I'd agree with that statement...



had the vette been given a DSG it would have obliterated the GTR. You left out AWD. ;)

Ben:addict: