New toy

[DuckWingDuck]

gang, whilst my rs6 sits at the dealership waiting for my technician to get to it, I've been thinking more and more about buying a lotus. Don't get me wrong, I love the hell out of my RS6 but as we've discussed many time here, it's simply not a car that you can throw around. Not to mention with the ever increasing gas prices the lotus offers the perfect compromise between efficiency (since it's such an incredibly light car) and performance. Again, I am thinking about acquiring a lotus to complement my RS6, not in place of it. Therefore, what are your thoughts on the differences between an Elise and Exige?

[Boosted-Bora]

well first off I cant fit in either so I have never drove either...but I do like the way the exige S looks and handles (from what I have seen) also there is a pretty good power to weight output for the exige S

[got boost]

DWD, I hear you brotha. I too am thinking about something to throw around. Are you thinking for trackdays or just backroads?

I see a lot of the loti at the track. The numbers are there, I just dont know if I could deal with the sparse interior for real life driving. I think I would just look for an already sorted trackready 996 or E46 for track fun and maybe go with a Cayman S for some canyon carving/everday throw around. I had a Cayman S as a loaner the last time the RS6 was in for service, that thing is a helluva lot a fun. Ughhhh!, I cant make up my mind.

Anyway, if you havn't all ready, you might check out http://www.lotustalk.com/

[ben916]

What happened to the love of the Miata??!?!?! You can always bump up the horsepower by visiting Monster Motorsports in Carlsbad, Ca (I Googled and not the results anticipated...). Total sleeper....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsh4cEhEWlg


If you get a Lotus, get the Exige S(?) but not in the lime green....

[JavierNuvolari]

What happened to the love of the Miata??!?!?! You can always bump up the horsepower by visiting Monster Motorsports in Carlsbad, Ca (I Googled and not the results anticipated...). Total sleeper....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsh4cEhEWlg


If you get a Lotus, get the Exige S(?) but not in the lime green....


LOL, this isn't TCL :cheers:
haha
If I had the money to place a Lotus right nex to the RS I would definetelly go for it, if not the Miata is a great choice, plus qith some goodies those cars are just a dream...if only Mazda Chile had them at a proper price....

Cheers all

[DuckWingDuck]

DWD, I hear you brotha. I too am thinking about something to throw around. Are you thinking for trackdays or just backroads?

I see a lot of the loti at the track. The numbers are there, I just dont know if I could deal with the sparse interior for real life driving. I think I would just look for an already sorted trackready 996 or E46 for track fun and maybe go with a Cayman S for some canyon carving/everday throw around. I had a Cayman S as a loaner the last time the RS6 was in for service, that thing is a helluva lot a fun. Ughhhh!, I cant make up my mind.

Anyway, if you havn't all ready, you might check out http://www.lotustalk.com/

Backroads and also an additional daily driver. I go around 10 miles each way on wide streets so ride comfort and traffic aren't major issues. And there are apparently quite a lot of people on lotustalk who use their Lotus as a daily driver. But ya, the genesis are certainly backroads, having been through Julian a couple times, as much as I love the RS6, it's just not meant for that kind of road.

On the lotus & the cayman, I was reading on lotustalk about a couple guys who say that the cayman can't even compare to the lotus. And to be honest, I think that there really isn't a car that can be compared with the lotus because of its power to weight ratio.

[DuckWingDuck]

What happened to the love of the Miata??!?!?! You can always bump up the horsepower by visiting Monster Motorsports in Carlsbad, Ca (I Googled and not the results anticipated...). Total sleeper....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsh4cEhEWlg


If you get a Lotus, get the Exige S(?) but not in the lime green....

I still love the miata, and hat tip to ben for reminding me but as I was discussing with a friend about this the other day, in order to get a miata up to the performance characteristics that I would want, I think the cost would roughly equal to that of an elise.

Hornberg's got a lotus elise: http://www.hornburg.com/vehicle-details/SCCPC11156HL30597&location=ws for $33k and I'm fairly certain I can probably get it out the door for $30K if not less and that out of the dealership would be a fantastic ride as I'm no gearhead and don't feel like I have the mechanical know-how to tune a miata.

[Benman]

DWD, I hear you brotha. I too am thinking about something to throw around.

Why not compliment the RS 6 with a nice fast super sport bike like I did. ;)

Ben:addict:

[DuckWingDuck]

Why not compliment the RS 6 with a nice fast super sport bike like I did. ;)

Ben:addict:

Hahaha, ya, I thought about that. However, I'm fairly certain I would die with a bike. FAR too reckless! :D Not to mention I think my mother would probably kill me.

[cornishmoocher]

Exige s, Exige s, Exige s, Exige S!

Go to a dealers, book a drive, I guarentee you will walk out $$$$$$$ poorer. AWSOME car.
Ahhh those were the days- how I miss em.........

[DuckWingDuck]

I was wondering when you were going to come in with your cogent advice! I take it you've owned an exige?

[cornishmoocher]

Briefly!
Just before i met my now wife. hurrumph!
I tell you now Duck, It will blow you away, forget what else you think handles well. compared to the Exige s, it will be like a turd in a piss pot. when Lotus did the exige with the motor for the USA market, they created a masterpiece.
But needs must when the devil drives,2 choices I had, bankrupcy and no future wife, or.... well quite frankly th most fun you can have with your pants on.
I will never forgive the Firm that I was working for who stung my fledgling buisness for £8k, and resulted in me nearly going to the wall. So the car had to go, only had it 7 months, but boy, what a 7 months.

[ben916]

I still love the miata, and hat tip to ben for reminding me but as I was discussing with a friend about this the other day, in order to get a miata up to the performance characteristics that I would want, I think the cost would roughly equal to that of an elise.

Hornberg's got a lotus elise: http://www.hornburg.com/vehicle-details/SCCPC11156HL30597&location=ws for $33k and I'm fairly certain I can probably get it out the door for $30K if not less and that out of the dealership would be a fantastic ride as I'm no gearhead and don't feel like I have the mechanical know-how to tune a miata.

I hear ya on that one... snap up a lotus... expecting photos on Monday...

[ben916]

Why not compliment the RS 6 with a nice fast super sport bike like I did. ;)

Ben:addict:

I musta missed that thread, what did you pick up?

[cornishmoocher]

WTF is a MIATA????

[DuckWingDuck]

lol@mooch.

http://www.chucksquared.com/images/Cars/miata/CharliMiataX2.JPG

[cornishmoocher]

:vhmmm: Hmmmmm:vhmmm:

Still not sure i am any wiser, Looks like a cross between a Mazda MX5 and a something else:vhmmm:

[DuckWingDuck]

oh ya, the miata was the initial name in the US for the MX-5 :)

[cornishmoocher]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Ok, MX 5 over here is still rated as one of the best "sports car " for the money. JC loves em!

[ben916]

DWD, assuming your married... and in case you were not aware and I am not passing judgment or anything like that... I am mearly informing... (please don't ban me for this...)

There is a certain stereo-type that can be associated with a man driving a Miata.... especially in West Hollywood...

[RS6-4dr911]

a la Deputy Jim Dangle on Reno 911!:hihi:

[DuckWingDuck]

rofl@y'all bastids. No I'm not married and no I don't bat for the other team but I do like the miata. However, as we discussed before, I think it's just going to cost me too much money and time to get the miata to the point where it'll compete credibly with the lotus. Ya, I might save a little bit compared to the lotus but it ain't lotus cool ;)

[Carl Lassiter]

Greg,

Don't laugh, but the Mini Cooper S JCW is one helluva little car. Get wide 18" JCW lightweight wheels, JCW brakes and all the other goodies and it is one great handler with some punch for the straights too. A have a friend with a fully loaded '08 and it sounds and goes beautifully.

You may not care for the image but it's just something else to consider.

[DuckWingDuck]

Man, I've been in the cooper a couple times, and I can't be spending no $80K like DBLIPA to get it into a racing condition!

Incidentally, the new cooper interior are quite shit and even this spiffed up JCW version ain't all that impressive:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/01/p0039004.jpg

It's way too plastic-y. I'd much rather go for the austere NON-interior of the lotus. However, it is semi-interesting.... A bit over 200BHP but what's the weight? Hell, an Elise is about 200.... And I can't imagine this JCW version of the Cooper being cheap.

Another thing that I've been talking about with some of the people over at lotustalk is also that I'm not relaly looking for a track car, that doesn't hold a tremendous amount of appeal for me. I'm really just looking for a zippy little car that can scoot to complement my RS6, not a full on racer!

[cornishmoocher]

Its not even a real mini...................... Get a real cooper or 1275 gt or an Exige..........

[ben916]

rofl@y'all bastids. No I'm not married and no I don't bat for the other team but I do like the miata. However, as we discussed before, I think it's just going to cost me too much money and time to get the miata to the point where it'll compete credibly with the lotus. Ya, I might save a little bit compared to the lotus but it ain't lotus cool ;)

This isn't an interview for Match.com so you don't have to explain...

Schmoocher has it right, IF you are going to do it, get the REAL mini cooper, not a re-badged, butchered and lowered 318ti...

Or get a 1972-1973 NR600 Honda

[DuckWingDuck]

Haha, ya, that's the thing, I don't want it to get to the point where I'm rolling around in a bucket of rusted bolts either. Point taking re: the 318 and honestly, it never really entered my mind though this JCW version seems mildly amusing if only for its over the topness. And I know I've mentioned this before and will surely get more rassing from the peanut gallery but, BMW (and by extension Mini-Cooper) interiors have always left me wanting as they are in a word, quite shit.

All of that said, I think that reason will more than likely prevail which would point me towards a '05/'06 Elise somewhere in the neighborhood of $30k for a car that will be fun to drive and not too heavy on the wallet!

[Benman]

I musta missed that thread, what did you pick up?

This thread:

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8722&highlight=japan+bikes

Currently have 26K on the CBR600RR, couldn't be happier.

Pic of when it was still black (now blue/white OEM Euro paint shceme):

http://www.rs6.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4824&d=1174417240

DWD, My mom said the same crap, but since I don't live at home, bought it anyway. Guess what? She still lives! :D :cheers:

Ben:addict:

[DuckWingDuck]

haha, ya, i know, but having seriously given it some thought and even I myself don't think that it'd be a wise decision to buy a bike :D

[Benman]

haha, ya, i know...

No worries, Lotus is your best bet then. Spoke to a Lotus owner at the Audi event at Miller Motorsports in Salt Lake. He absolutely loves it. He also had the car at the LV Audi event and was spanking us around the track (especially in the turns).
:cheers:

Ben:addict:

[DuckWingDuck]

ya, i think the lotus is the safest way of getting close to the bike for me. Just gotta find a good one for the right amount!

[cornishmoocher]

Duck, Have you considered a caterham or a westfield? Fab little cars. Don't know why I didnt suggest one before! (I think you can get them over the pond. 0-60- 3 seconds top wack C150mph two seater open top. <500kgs.
http://www.caterham.co.uk/
http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/

[ben916]

Duck, Have you considered a caterham or a westfield? Fab little cars. Don't know why I didnt suggest one before! (I think you can get them over the pond. 0-60- 3 seconds top wack C150mph two seater open top. <500kgs.
http://www.caterham.co.uk/
http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/

caterham looks like an http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA

There is a "travelling roadshow" for ariel every so often in the US.

[DuckWingDuck]

ya, i briefly thought about them but damn, those are quite literally track cars! I'm not so sure I'd be comfortably riding around town in them ;D

[The Pretender]

What about a Dutch Donkervoort D8 270 RS.

http://www.supercars.net/carpics/3180/2005_Donkervoort_D8270RS2.jpg

Jarod.

[DuckWingDuck]

LOL, amusing, but I think we're quickly reaching the realms of fantasy here friends :)

[cornishmoocher]

ya, i briefly thought about them but damn, those are quite literally track cars! I'm not so sure I'd be comfortably riding around town in them ;D

What are you duck, A duck or a mouse??:lovl:
Great little car about town, ass end skittish, front end precise, just like a girl i know.........

[ben916]

Duckity, what about one of these? Or do you want your hair to blow in the wind?...

http://www.parkplaceltd.com/default.aspx?html=lotus_evora.html&s=lotus-evora

[DuckWingDuck]

Ben - Ya, the Evora is something that I've thought about for a while but...

1. Not really looking for a brand new car.
2. The Evora is 1350kg, almost a whopping 500kg more than the Elise! I already have a heavy car in the RS6, don't need another one.
3. The Evora is a 2+2, again, as I have a wonderful sedan, this car is really just a commute/fun car, not a car for taking a lot of people out.

Now, if I were contemplating selling my RS6 and replacing it with a single car, then the evora would instantly leap to the top of my list.

[BLITZEN]

If this thread doesn't die I'm going to crap my pants!!! :doh: :doh: :doh:

Respectfully, this question should have been asked in a Lotus forum. Elise or Exige? No one cares! Do you want a convertible or not? Done - Question answered. It seems like your mind is made up anyway so there was no need to solicit 100 other opinions that haven't had anything to do with current Lotus models and instead have only been suggestions on other types and brands of cars, motorcycles and even future cars.

Sorry for the bad mood. But this thread which has nothing to do with Audi is quite out of hand and going nowhere. :noshake:

[DuckWingDuck]

LOL, this thread had been gone for weeks until Ben mentioned the Evora. FWIW, I did post this question on various lotus forums but the primary motivation for posting the question here is because I respect the opinion of my fellow RS6 owners.

[ben916]

LOOK OUT!!! Blitzen is having a DEPENDS moment... j/k

Not to throw you under the bus, DWD, but yeah this "toy" thread should have been in the Performance car thread.

[Benman]

Not to throw you under the bus, DWD, but yeah this "toy" thread should have been in the Performance car thread.

Now under the correct heading, so feel free to continue the thread forever. :D

Ben:addict:

[DuckWingDuck]

damn you people!! Making me forage out of the RS6 thread, I say it's all Ben's fault. This thread would've died a quiet death if he hadn't brought up the evora!!!!! :P

Haha, just kidding.

[ben916]

:king: mmmmmuuuuuhhhhaaaahhhaaaaaa!

[cornishmoocher]

EH???? WTF???? Where am I???? Me no like it here, its cold and dark and I'm scared..........Mommy.........

[DuckWingDuck]

LOL, ya, blame ben!!!!

[ben916]

LOL, ya, blame ben!!!!

Wait a sec....

Let's re-examine this... shall we?

1. Ducky wanna new toy.
2. Ducky postes in his favorite area a non RS6 question.
3. Ben points, along with others, the plus/minus of non RS6 Ducky toy.
3.5 Blitzen feels a strong BM urge.
4. Thread dies, kinda.
5. Opps, Ben revives 'Toy' thread via seagull management.
6. Blitzen "craps his pants".
7. Benman moves thread to proper non RS6 area.
8. Schmoocher is scared of the dark and nearly cries online.
9. Ducky still wants his new non RS6 toy.
10. Ducky throws the blame dart...

hmmmmm....
Anyway, how's the search on the Exige?

:)

[Benman]

Wait a sec....

Let's re-examine this... shall we?



:applause: :applause: Nice post. :D :thumb: But more like that and we'll need to re-move it to Off Topic. ;) :D

Ben:addict:

[ben916]

:applause: :applause: Nice post. :D :thumb: But more like that and we'll need to re-move it to Off Topic. ;) :D

Ben:addict:

I, for one, will not cry or be scared of the dark if it's moved again.

:harass: Duckie might not be able to find it though....

Either way, I am done...

[DuckWingDuck]

LOL, damn you all!! Anyway, back on topic... I originally thought that the Hornburg Santa Monica car for $32K was an interesting deal and that I could probably get it for <$30K out the door but they've been pretty hard at bargaining and considering that I'll be on the road for a few more weeks, I'll probably start to more seriously think about it when I get home but also casting a wider net as prices in our market tend to be a bit more inflated.

[Benman]

but also casting a wider net as prices in our market tend to be a bit more inflated.


That is a good idea DWD, our neck of the woods is much more inflated than a few hundred miles out. Expand the search area for sure.:thumb:

Ben:addict:

[DuckWingDuck]

Ya, much to my chagrin, that's what happened when I bought my RS6. Can't make that same mistake again!