Audi S4 B8

[Michaël Barbé]

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/erlkoenige/hxcms_article_513258_13987.hbs

http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2008/06/18/audi-s4-en-tt-rs-bijna-klaar

MB
:rs6kiss:

[The Pretender]

It look like the new S4 will only have a up-graded S-line bodykit, with a TTS style rear valance and rear LED lights.

http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/7/da775865c783d922575350337a200ad7.jpg
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/4/63f6588f8746d82fad9a8a6e1cb9fc24.jpg
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http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/d/c73486f3c7762a97d9f76baf85c2b61d.jpg
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/c/0f1fadebc1e893d44b0ec71772e9f94c.jpg
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/b/5a5b00e150a48ff7b923bac83b4ba51b.jpg

Jarod.

[HKS786]

- new "S" grille.
- final front bumper isnt shown. See pic below for final front bumper.
- rear diffuser is like the S5 and TT-S
- obviously sporting the S4 badge.

The new A4 has grown on me. The rear lights seemed a little lazy at first, but overall it looks better than its rivals IMO. S4 is too similar too A4 S-Line but it does look great, and if that engine is as good as we think it will be, it'll slot in perfect between A4 and RS4. :D

http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=162763&stc=1&d=1213809172

[ZeroCool]

i like the LED-Rearlights...

My Dad bought an A4 2.0TDI 1 week ago ... i'll have to check if the LED-lights will fit without problems - and if they're better looking - there's going to be an update ;)

[roadrunner]

- new "S" grille.
- final front bumper isnt shown. See pic below for final front bumper.
- rear diffuser is like the S5 and TT-S
- obviously sporting the S4 badge.

The new A4 has grown on me. The rear lights seemed a little lazy at first, but overall it looks better than its rivals IMO. S4 is too similar too A4 S-Line but it does look great, and if that engine is as good as we think it will be, it'll slot in perfect between A4 and RS4. :D

http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=162763&stc=1&d=1213809172

Usually you are spot on, BUT the bumper on the red one is no where near S4 final - it is the standard A4 front bumper, found on every A4 coming out of the factory without the S line exteriour package.

And yes, that's how it has been in the past as well, the front bumper of S line and S4 have been the same, therefore very similar look.

The silver ones are the real deal

cheers
seb.

[HKS786]

Wow, I cant believe I made that mistake. I was on my laptop earlier. Didnt even pay much attention, but on my bigger screen I notice how stupid it was to say that. It's because I was looking at 2 sets of spypics today. There is the red proto above and also the silver ones. Yes you are right, the silver one is actually the final product. It is like the S-line BUT you can see the intakes open instead of closed.

Thanks for correcting me!

[The Pretender]

A4 S-line.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/573/medium/1b8a4s_wp_1024_09.jpg

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

I am very disappointed with these photos of the new S4, it just looks stock S-Line with a Smodel grille. When Audi see fit to give it's TT/S a totally different bodykit compared to the S-Line they should have followed it's lead and match with something similar on both the S4 and S5. :noshake:

[HKS786]

I am very disappointed with these photos of the new S4, it just looks stock S-Line with a Smodel grille. When Audi see fit to give it's TT/S a totally different bodykit compared to the S-Line they should have followed it's lead and match with something similar on both the S4 and S5. :noshake:

+1

TT-S and S5 look amazing. A5 S-line is very similar to the S5 again though. The TT-S is lives up to it's badge much more because it doesnt look like it's S-line variant at all...

This new S4 is a little disappointing in that respect. It does look fantastic, it's just too similar to the S-line.

[artur777]

What are the expected acceleration figures for S4 with S-Tronic???
0-100 and 0-200?

[Leadfoot]

What are the expected acceleration figures for S4 with S-Tronic???
0-100 and 0-200?

A guess but I reckon when connected to S/Tronic it will post times as good as the S5 to 100km/h and just maybe better to the 200km/h mark.

[Damienr8]

I am very disappointed with these photos of the new S4, it just looks stock S-Line with a Smodel grille. When Audi see fit to give it's TT/S a totally different bodykit compared to the S-Line they should have followed it's lead and match with something similar on both the S4 and S5. :noshake:

+1

Very predictable look for the S4

[roadrunner]

+1

Very predictable look for the S4

Guys, what did you expect - it continues the S4 heritage from the past years. And it is ok for me = stealth factor.

The RS4 B8 will bring the differentiation you are looking for :thumb:

[Fehli]

Become the S4 rear LED's? It ist very cool.

The normal A4 have no LED's on the rear, or?

Thanks
Andi

[Tanner]

Not sure if this was posted already but 408 lb-ft of torque is nothing to sneeze at!

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/Audi-S4-saloon-and-Avant-2008-the-spy-photos/?content-block=0

[HKS786]

Become the S4 rear LED's? It ist very cool.

The normal A4 have no LED's on the rear, or?

Thanks
Andi

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-A4_2008_photo_54.jpg

[The Pretender]

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/121667_700.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/121668_700.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/121673_700.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/121671_700.jpg

http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/121672_700.jpg

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

I prefer the look of this to the saloon, I think understated works better on estate cars.

[Rage]

Cant help but feel a bit dissapointed.

I hope they dont continue the understated look with the RS lineup

[ZeroCool]

i really don't know what's the problem with the look of the S4 ... an last S4 also don't looked different then the S-Line Ext.

The same here...so where's the problem?
The RS will be something else - sure

[The RS6]

A nice photoshop...

http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/audi_s4_avant_01_quinty.jpg
http://www.audiblog.nl/wp-content/audi_s4_avant_02-quinty.jpg

[The Pretender]

Yes, most S Audi's have only a S-Line exterior body kit.
But after the pre facelift S3 and TTS you had the idea the S4 will get also something different.
Now it's a nice understated looking car in line of the rest of the A4 family.

Jarod.

[quinty]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/2610373126_2f5502146b_o.jpg

Hey everyone,

Saw my first two photoshops from the new S4 Avant on this forum, but there is more coming. This is the first one of it. I hope you like it.

Quinty

[The Pretender]

Yes, very nice.

Any plans for a clubsport style TT RS coupe' with lower standard TT fog lights.

jarod.

[HKS786]

Quinty,

I dont always like your designs but they are always high quality. This time I love the design AND quality. The rear diffuser isnt accurate though. Look at spypics.

The front looks great. Imagine this next to the 335i Msport. I know what I'd pick :D

[The RS6]

Yeah, awesome job with that S4 Quinty! I didn't like the Clubsports you made (a bit too much for my taste), but this S4 looks just right :)

When you're done with it, try creating an RS4 from it...add some quattro style arches, add the tts-style front... :)

[quinty]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/2610417112_77b6489e4f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/2610491630_3f0a3d1358_o.jpg

Hey there,

Thanks for the compliment. The most photoshops I make are like conceptcars, overdone. Other times I try to make them realistic. I think that Audi will change the diffuser, the car on the spypics is only a testcar. But if you take a look at the normal S4 spypics you can see it will be different from to normal A4. I will photoshop a S4 Avant Clubsport Edition later this week.

Quinty

[HKS786]

Yes, very nice.

Any plans for a clubsport style TT RS coupe' with lower standard TT fog lights.

jarod.

I'm on it :D

[HKS786]

TT-R coupe with fogs for Hans :D

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/J78628/tt-r-1.jpg
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/J78628/tt-r2.jpg

[The Pretender]

Cool, with some luck it will look something like that. ;)
Otherwise i think it will look like the TTS with wide fenders.

Jarod.

[HKS786]

I'm sure it will Hans. The prototypes are what Audi always use. I think some time in the near future we will start seeing prototypes with the actual TT-R body with camo ;)

[The Pretender]

Most likely within two months. ;)

Jarod.

[The Pretender]

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/J78628/tt-r-1.jpg


btw, it look almost perfect, great work.

Some small PS advise from my former PS day's.
If you select the inner line of the crome bar of the grill, you can slide the selection over to the donor picture and put it in position.
Then select it and slide it back to your PS picture, in that case you have a perfect fit.
Further, can you make the bars black like this.

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/TT-TT%20Roadster/TT%20%28a5%29/Coupe%20-%20EU/Exterior/112.jpg

And do some cleaning by the rear window, put in headlight washers and maybe a slide color chance in medium grey.
Just a litle advise nothing more.

btw put you name on it.

Hans.

[HKS786]

Hans,

It was a rough chop, but I will make those edits. You also have a good eye ;) and good taste lol.

[Leadfoot]

The reality is it will probably look a lot like that. Maybe a few subtle differences but on the most part a carbon copy, well here's hoping.

[The Pretender]

It was a rough chop, but I will make those edits. You also have a good eye ;) and good taste lol.
I alway's was satisfied about my photoshop work back in the day's.
But when i look at them now they are crap with a lot of imperfections.

Jarod.

[HKS786]

I alway's was satisfied about my photoshop work back in the day's.
But when i look at them now they are crap with a lot of imperfections.

Jarod.

That's because when you work on chops your eye cant spot imperfections. Sometimes you need fresh eyes or check it later and you will notice imperfections. Happens to me all the time :D

I lost my edits but I tried to fix it up again:

- headlight washers
- fixed the shape of the rear window
- black strip for side-intakes
- grille retouched

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/J78628/tt-r3.jpg

[The Pretender]

That's because when you work on chops your eye cant spot imperfections. Sometimes you need fresh eyes or check it later and you will notice imperfections. Happens to me all the time :D

I lost my edits but I tried to fix it up again:

- headlight washers
- fixed the shape of the rear window
- black strip for side-intakes
- grille retouched


There are only two things that have to be change, the left mirror is still white not aluminium and the grill need a clean-up with licence plate holder and lower placed Audi + RS logo and use a changed TTS logo to TTR.

Jarod.

[HKS786]

There are only two things that have to be change, the left mirror is still white not aluminium and the grill need a clean-up with licence plate holder and lower placed Audi + RS logo and use a changed TTS logo to TTR.

Jarod.

Done. I actually noticed these things, but I was lazy and I know most people dont bother. But it seems you have a really good eye, just like me :D

I cant wait for the TT-R :ttaddict:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/J78628/tt-r3-1.jpg

[The Pretender]

According to the new edition of German Autobild, could the new S4 also end up with the new TT RS Five-cylinder engine with double turbo and 350 hp.

If this is true then i think the 290 hp 3.0TFSI SC engine will only replace the 265 hp 3.2 V6 FSI engine.

Jarod.

[quinty]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3056/2614933105_a16255058e_o.jpg

Hey everyone,

Another S4, more I will post later of this beautifull new Audi. I hope you like it.

Quinty

[Leadfoot]

According to the new edition of German Autobild, could the new S4 also end up with the new TT RS Five-cylinder engine with double turbo and 350 hp.

If this is true then i think the 290 hp 3.0TFSI SC engine will only replace the 265 hp 3.2 V6 FSI engine.

Jarod.

That would be an interesting development, it would justify the development work being undertaken on the 5 cylinder and would return Audi to the sound they were so famous for. Hope it comes true and is not another piece of fiction to fill an empty page on a magazine.

[The Pretender]

The question is, if the new S4 will get the R5T what will the S5 get in the future.

btw, It seems that this new 3.0TFSI engine also will replace the 3.6 VR6 FSI engine used in the Q7.

Jarod.

[quinty]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/2615815058_c987db8f28_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2615883808_40ce7631c6_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2615014899_f4917c13e8_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2615083813_3ca73e60ab_o.jpg

Hey everyone,

That's all for today. I hope you like it.

Quinty

[simpson]

Hello.
As i posted on other thread (regarding 3.0TFSI), new S4 B8 will have 333PS, production date from 11/2008 ;)
Source: ETKA ;)

[KresoF1]

ETKA 7 with latest update? True...

[The Pretender]

ETKA 7 with latest update? True...
And you have accest to it based on what. ?

Jarod.

[KresoF1]

And you have accest to it based on what. ?

Jarod.

And what kind of question is that?

We all have our friends and sources... ETKA 7 DVD as well...

[The RS6]

The question is, if the new S4 will get the R5T what will the S5 get in the future.

How about 333Hp 3.0TFSI for the S4 and 350Hp 2.3R5 for the S5? :)

(just my speculation)

[The Pretender]

How about 333Hp 3.0TFSI for the S4 and 350Hp 2.3R5 for the S5? :)

(just my speculation)
It start to look like the R5T will only be used transverse.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

It start to look like the R5T will only be used transverse.

Jarod.

There is not logical reason for it not to make it's way into other models and I like yourself would love to hear that odd beat once again from an Audi.

[chewym]

3.0T makes more sense, more refinement that is fitting for an S4. The engine is ready and the S4 is ready. There were tons of rumors at first, so one more (I5 twin turbos) is possible.

The 290 figures comes @ under 5,000 RPM with a 6,500 redline, Audi can easily get 50-60-more horsepower in that "empty at the moment" range.

[The Pretender]

The limit with this engine will be 365 hp, after that you need to change hardware to get more power out of it.

Jarod.

[tvrfan]

what is the S4 getting now, the new TVS Eaton Twin-Screw compressor or a roots compressor? before most articels said its the new TVS Eaton twin-screw compressor. but now some write its a roots compressor. does anybody know more? :brag:

PS: whats better, a roots compressor or a twin-screw (difference)???

[The Pretender]

what is the S4 getting now, the new TVS Eaton Twin-Screw compressor or a roots compressor? before most articels said its the new TVS Eaton twin-screw compressor. but now some write its a roots compressor. does anybody know more? :brag:

PS: whats better, a roots compressor or a twin-screw (difference)???
A TVS Twin-screw is a roots compressor.

Jarod.

[The Pretender]

333 hp will be enough for the S4 because the 3-serie facelift BMW 335i engine upgrade will give it 326 hp and 450 Nm.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9260/bmw3facelift1li2.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/396/bmw3facelift2qw0.jpg

Jarod.

[tvrfan]

A TVS Twin-screw is a roots compressor.

Jarod.

so the New S4 will have the new TVS Eaton Twin-Screw four lobe supercharger?

[The Pretender]

so the New S4 will have the new TVS Eaton Twin-Screw four lobe supercharger?
Yes it will.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

333 hp will be enough for the S4 because the 3-serie facelift BMW 335i engine upgrade will give it 326 hp and 450 Nm.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9260/bmw3facelift1li2.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/396/bmw3facelift2qw0.jpg

Jarod.

I am not so sure that 333hp and 420Nm will be enough to stay ahead of the 335i. The S4 needs more, as does the S5 to stay on top of it's game and command it's slightly higher price tag.

[HKS786]

I am not so sure that 333hp and 420Nm will be enough to stay ahead of the 335i. The S4 needs more, as does the S5 to stay on top of it's game and command it's slightly higher price tag.

I agree with Leadie. I think at least 350/60 bhp is needed for the S4. The 335i is a serious performer.

[ZeroCool]

but it will have 333hp - it's already in the system!

Engine Code: CAK - 245kW - start 11/08

[KresoF1]

but it will have 333hp - it's already in the system!

Engine Code: CAK - 245kW - start 11/08

Is that from ETKA 7.1 update 698?;)

[KresoF1]

BTW, R8 5.2FSI V10 with 386kw is also in the system.;) :deal:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5655/v10r8cr8.jpg

[ZeroCool]

i know :D

[KresoF1]

i know :D

D.,

I know that YOU know!;) :jlol:

It is funny sometimes to read info about new Audi engines here that DO NOT exist NOR WILL.

Update in system pops up and NO info about engines that deep throats here are raving about...:hihi:

[Leadfoot]

We have known for some time that 333hp and supercharging was what the S4 was going to get, I am happy with the choice of engine and was happy with the output when the 335i had only 306hp, but with this updated power figures and even more torque it does place the S4 at a disadvantage. The car will be more expensive, they always were but the last S4 was that bit quicker than the then 330i which was it's competition, now with the new and improved 335i the car needs more, much more to stay ahead of the game.

As for deep throats talking about engine which haven't surfaced or won't, there is numerous example of engines being tested that never see the light of day, posting about them doesn't not mean people here don't want to hear about them though. :looking:

But lets start the speculation here and now about some future engines just see who is right and who is wrong.

RS4 - ?
RS5 - ?
TT/RS - ?

Feel free to fill in the blanks. :D

[The Pretender]

Is that from ETKA 7.1 update 698?;)
It's a big help to have access to ETKA.
It's shame there is nothing in it about the TT-R.

Jarod.

[KresoF1]

It's a big help to have access to ETKA.
It's shame there is nothing in it about the TT-R.

Jarod.


As soon as new engine update(important one like TTR's engine for example) pops up in system(new update) either Zerocool or me will post it here...:hahahehe:

Let me give you some story-in June of 2006 R8 engine data(and many other things) were already in the system. I already know its power(309kw) etc. BUT, Deep throats here claimed 450hp, 1450kg etc.

There WASN'T last minute changes in the car as some people here claimed. These Deep throats simply said only speculated, they did NOT have any accurate info...

Audi Sk XLS file is BTW very, very accurate... Only few dates are wrong...;)

[ZeroCool]

they never post that new info in ETKA or ELSA ... they just bring the info with an update when it's nearly official (like the S4-Engine)

That the R8 V10 5.2FSI is longer in ELSA - i think that's a mistake which was made by AUDI ... but ok

[Leadfoot]

they never post that new info in ETKA or ELSA ... they just bring the info with an update when it's nearly official (like the S4-Engine)

That the R8 V10 5.2FSI is longer in ELSA - i think that's a mistake which was made by AUDI ... but ok

The 3.0 Bi-turbo diesel isn't on any official Audi memo but I can assure you it is coming and this info I gave close to 18 months ago.

The S4 was to be a supercharge unit, I was told this well before any official document, even though most other Audi sites stated it would be turbo, the same applies to the RS6, I was told it's release would to be an Avant instead of the rumor that it would be a saloon and give the reasons why. Again this was on no official document.

Just because it's not on an official list doesn't mean it ain't correct. The person who supplies my info I have 100% faith in and so far the info has never been wrong. :looking:

P.S.
The R8v10 on the Youtube video was the real deal and I doubt you will ever see another mistake like that again.

[Rage]

Please stop saying deep throat. Do you guys not have porn where you are from?

What the hell is EKTA? You guys moonlighting in Audi IT technical support or something?:)

[The Pretender]

What the hell is EKTA?

ETKA = ErsatzTeilKAtalogus.
All Audi/VW spare parts are in it with partnumber and price.
And when a new model comes into production there will be a ETKA update with all the spare parts of that model in it.
Based on the spare parts you can see info about a coming model like engine info.

Jarod.

[The Pretender]

There is also ELSA workshop handbook with all repairing guides and fix torque moments.
With other words everything a mechanic need to know to repair a car.

Jarod.

[ZeroCool]

The 3.0 Bi-turbo diesel isn't on any official Audi memo but I can assure you it is coming and this info I gave close to 18 months ago.

The S4 was to be a supercharge unit, I was told this well before any official document, even though most other Audi sites stated it would be turbo, the same applies to the RS6, I was told it's release would to be an Avant instead of the rumor that it would be a saloon and give the reasons why. Again this was on no official document.

Just because it's not on an official list doesn't mean it ain't correct. The person who supplies my info I have 100% faith in and so far the info has never been wrong. :looking:

P.S.
The R8v10 on the Youtube video was the real deal and I doubt you will ever see another mistake like that again.

I never said that your info is wrong ;) I just said, that ELSA and ETKA are not the systems on which you can base your info!

Because when it's in etka or elsa most other people know that already ;) e.g. the inline 5 :)

[The Pretender]

;) e.g. the inline 5 :)
e.g. ???

Jarod.

[The RS6]

e.g. ???

Jarod.

Latin - Exempli Gratia meaning "For Example"!

[The Pretender]

Latin - Exempli Gratia meaning "For Example"!
Ok thanks, not had latin education.

Jarod.

[ZeroCool]

sorry Jarod :)

[Leadfoot]

I am personally always upbeat about future models, unlike some people here. It maybe other people's approach to play down Audi's future models but it's just not my way.

When someone tells me that the new S4 is going to surprise a hack of a lot of people with it's handling balance and finesse from it's chassis then I take those comments at face value and report what is said. The same applies to the TT/RS, the comments reported to me is the car is shockingly good, good enough to make Porsche take note and decide to release a Cayman Turbo on the strength of what I found when they drove the test mules. To me that is enough of a recommendation to know that the TT/RS will be up there with the top Cayman and thus better than the rest of the competition.

[The Pretender]

sorry Jarod :)
Nullus excusatio necessarius. ;)

jarod.

[011]

what is the S4 getting now, the new TVS Eaton Twin-Screw compressor or a roots compressor? before most articels said its the new TVS Eaton twin-screw compressor. but now some write its a roots compressor. does anybody know more? :brag:

PS: whats better, a roots compressor or a twin-screw (difference)???

Eaton TVS familly is Roots, most advanced yet but roots.
TwinScrew is compressing air between lobes, Roots just pushes(charges,therefore Charger/Blower) air into intake plenum. Twin Screw therefore requires much,much tighter clearences between lobes, i.e. precision/high price is the name of the game. Result is that TwinScrew is heathing up air much less,making higher boost for given pulley size,more efficient.
But all this is irrelevant when things comes to mass production, than name of the game is being cheaper than other solutions and more reliable.

[011]

http://audiworld.com/news/08/v6-supercharger/

[nike_shoes]

I love to sing and play music. I can't find anyone to get into a band with. All my friends are either in bands or talentless. So would it be a good idea to record the music and sing live with taped music. Would this be a good idea and is it common? Does it depend on the music?

[The RS6]

Spotted Again!

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/S41_01...jpg
http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/S42.jpg

http://www.autoblog.it/post/15296/audi-s4-fotografata-in-blu-e-con-fanaleria-a-led
http://www.audiblog.nl/?p=3787

[Kliko61]

all the models of Audi get the same LED-lights at the back, I'm getting sick of it really. The models look now way too much the same...

I like LED, but this is going too far for me

[The Pretender]

LED light is the future.
I like the 3D TT + R8 rear lights better.

Jarod.

[Michaël Barbé]

all the models of Audi get the same LED-lights at the back, I'm getting sick of it really. The models look now way too much the same...

I like LED, but this is going too far for me

I really like the LED's. I just think it wouldn't be fare that all Audi's have it standard in the future. I'm talking A3's and A4's 1.9TDI

MB
:rs6kiss:

[kju]

i like the S4 ! looks very nice ... good stealth factor !

But i hope the RS4 will look more brutal !

somebody got photos(shopped) of next gen RS4's ?

will audi put a DKG into the new RS4 ?? or something like a automatic...because i love the RS4 B7 but i want an automatic (like the RS6 C5) but i think it is only available with 6 manual right?

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I really like the LED's. I just think it wouldn't be fare that all Audi's have it standard in the future. I'm talking A3's and A4's 1.9TDI

MB
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Not "fair" to whom? Audi is a luxury brand, and no matter which model is bought by the consumer, it is fair to them that they get their moneys' worth. Heads up, the New A4 had a base model price jump of about $4,000 from the previous model here in the U.S.

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all the models of Audi get the same LED-lights at the back, I'm getting sick of it really. The models look now way too much the same...

I like LED, but this is going too far for me

"All" the models don't have the same LED design though. The LED layout for the A8, RS6, R8, and now the A4 are different. I say go for it. LED is the way of the future and all models should be sporting LED tails looking their best at all times no matter which Audi your driving.
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