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chewym
May 14th, 2008, 02:37
Looks production ready. Maybe Audi will have one with turbos later?

http://forums.audiworld.com/r8/msgs/11022.phtml

This is what the new Gallardo does with (slightly more powerful) version of the same engine.

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?p=131025#post131025

Audiphile
May 14th, 2008, 04:10
The video on the guy's myspace makes on sense. How could that be an R8 V10? And why is it in such low end neighborhood? How would such a important and expensive car from Audi (shrouded in secrecy no doubt) be somehow found in this neighborhood with some amateur vidoegrapher? No way! This is a total hoax. The fact an R8 is in the video is surprise enough, yet alone an supposed V10 which I doubt has not even left Europe, yet alone be in the States.

ben916
May 14th, 2008, 04:34
Agree with Audiphile, "it" would be leaked in Europe WAY before States.
The only way it is V10 is someone took an R8 and stuffed a S6 motor in there... Kind of an expensive stuffing...

chewym
May 14th, 2008, 04:51
The photos clearly show a V10 looking engine in the engine bay. There are like 6 photos. And that R10 has the LED headlights not available in US/anywhere yet. The V10 also looks a lot like the new V10 in the LP 560.

It would have to be some amazing photoshop to produce those photos.

Also, look at the black plastic with the Audi rings on the engine, look at the shape and look at these photos from Germany. Which show a real V10 prototype. The engine looks the same.

http://forums.audiworld.com/r8/msgs/10995.phtml

Audi/VW have a facility in Florida.

HKS786
May 14th, 2008, 10:40
The video on the guy's myspace makes on sense. How could that be an R8 V10? And why is it in such low end neighborhood? How would such a important and expensive car from Audi (shrouded in secrecy no doubt) be somehow found in this neighborhood with some amateur vidoegrapher? No way! This is a total hoax. The fact an R8 is in the video is surprise enough, yet alone an supposed V10 which I doubt has not even left Europe, yet alone be in the States.


Agree with Audiphile, "it" would be leaked in Europe WAY before States.
The only way it is V10 is someone took an R8 and stuffed a S6 motor in there... Kind of an expensive stuffing...

Just so you guys know, a guy on that forum seen the R8 and S5 being tested in Melbourne, Florida long before they were released. Also, look at the reflectors on the model, that shows the body is a US R8.

HKS786
May 14th, 2008, 10:43
The photos clearly show a V10 looking engine in the engine bay. There are like 6 photos. And that R10 has the LED headlights not available in US/anywhere yet. The V10 also looks a lot like the new V10 in the LP 560.

It would have to be some amazing photoshop to produce those photos.

Also, look at the black plastic with the Audi rings on the engine, look at the shape and look at these photos from Germany. Which show a real V10 prototype. The engine looks the same.

http://forums.audiworld.com/r8/msgs/10995.phtml

Audi/VW have a facility in Florida.

I think this is genuine guys. I've looked at everything you have supplied and I looked at the R8 engine bay to refresh my memory. That engine cover is totally different from the R8's V8 engine cover. No way anyone could have produced such perfect chops. Both pics are different angles and I checked the reflections and everything looks genuine.

Also, look at the red sticker inside the interior. Prototypes always have these stickers and paperwork lying around.

RXBG
May 14th, 2008, 13:59
i agree. this is a real emissions test mule. i live in west orlando and i see pre production audis frequently. from the Q7 to the new TT. i trailed an S5 for miles once- about 6 months before it went into production. they keep them in a facility in tampa (where other posters have told me they guard them like mafia secrets. indeed, the drivers are generally unfriendly and their security guards are pretty intimidating- they trailed a guy for about 5 miles once when he got out of his car to peek over the fence and tried to take pictures).

in fact, a black updated A3 S-Line, complete with the new TT-S type front bumper came up behind me in my R8 the other day. i saw him from behind as he was cruising. he saw me and accelerated to follow me a bit before i turned off yet he didn't even look over at me as he passed me. the updated A3, complete with LED headlights, looks pretty mean in black.

:cheers:

HKS786
May 14th, 2008, 15:18
Guys, look how different the RS4 and R8's engines bays look despite having the same engine:

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS4_2006_photo_0f.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-R8_2007_photo_47.jpg

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-RS_4_Avant_2006_photo_20.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Audi-R8_2007_photo_58.jpg

I dont think we can be 100% sure it's an NA engine in that R8 V10 prototype.

JavierNuvolari
May 14th, 2008, 15:21
I think it's the real deal by readin RXBG's coment. Also If you look closesly to the pictures, specially the one wich shows the headlights you can clearly see the those...crap...dunno the translation, well thing is it looks like the prototipes pictures we've seen.

Saludos

Damienr8
May 14th, 2008, 15:54
I think it's an engine test mule. I can't wait to see what lies ahead!

S6driver
May 14th, 2008, 16:21
It maybe, but I'm not totally convinced. No sign of the air vents in the roof to provide the extra cooling. Audi has several testing centers in the US. The high altitude center is in Denver and I saw everything, S8, S6, S5, TT, R8 being run around at 9000 ft 6 months in advance. Hopefully Audi will debut the production version soon.

Audifan92
May 14th, 2008, 16:36
Did anyone notice the gear Lever?
its not manual or R-Tronic....

ben916
May 14th, 2008, 16:55
http://a396.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/94/l_0da78836bb745a9b5f04ad4770f09b4b.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=107151842&albumID=0&imageID=22876375)

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=107151842&albumID=0&imageID=22876363

Can any of the R8 owners confirm the engine?

HKS786
May 14th, 2008, 17:08
http://a396.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/94/l_0da78836bb745a9b5f04ad4770f09b4b.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=107151842&albumID=0&imageID=22876375)

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=107151842&albumID=0&imageID=22876363

Can any of the R8 owners confirm the engine?

Where did that pic come from? It's another angle of the SAME engine bay which proves it cant be a chop! Why the V8 FSi badge? It's not in the other pics :confused:

ben916
May 14th, 2008, 17:13
I went to the guys myspace page and waded through the 17 pages of cars he details and drunk parties and fat chicks and FINALLY it is on the very last page. I included the link for everyone to go to. I EVEN emailed the guy to ask the money question...

As far as the badge, i have no clue but that is why I included this picture. It looks like the owner put that one to "fool" others into thinking it is a V8 versus the possiblity of a V10...

Leadfoot
May 14th, 2008, 17:16
This is NOT the same engine as in the regular R8. Now we have that out of the way, what is it then?

Honest I haven't a clue. ;)

HKS786
May 14th, 2008, 17:30
This is NOT the same engine as in the regular R8. Now we have that out of the way, what is it then?

Honest I haven't a clue. ;)

Leadie,

I dont think we can really be sure. As I was discussing over at another forum:

- Audi fitted the 6.0 V12TDi in the same engine bay
- The Le Mans Concept 2003 had a 5.0 V10TT pushing out 610bhp.

http://www.supercars.net/Pics?v=y&id=2432&s=c&p=2003_Audi_LeMansQuattroConcept10.jpg

That pic shows all the turbo piping. Maybe Audi managed to get all the turbo piping and fittings hidden. I have no idea, but at least we have proof it's receiving the V10 ;)

Audiphile
May 14th, 2008, 18:22
We know the R8 is receiving a V10 since Audi officially confirmed it. I just wonder how this guy got hold of V10 R8!? Sounds a bit prosposterous to me that he would be able to take it out like this and not be shot by some security guards, not to mention likely loose his job and other unpleasant reprocussions. I just cannot figure Audi would allow such a leak to a occur with such an important vehicle.

Audifan92
May 14th, 2008, 18:55
We know the R8 is receiving a V10 since Audi officially confirmed it. I just wonder how this guy got hold of V10 R8!? Sounds a bit prosposterous to me that he would be able to take it out like this and not be shot by some security guards, not to mention likely loose his job and other unpleasant reprocussions. I just cannot figure Audi would allow such a leak to a occur with such an important vehicle.

Mabey he's an important person/customer.
I remeber mabey about 8 or 9 months ago, here on Miami beach there was an R8.
Before they made it to the US.
The guy who had it was the owner of Joes Stone Crab.
He had bought over 12 Audis or something like that.
So AoA gave him an R8 for a few weeks.

RXBG
May 14th, 2008, 19:07
let's clear things up guys...

obviously no turbos. this IS the V10. it is a test mule. it has the newly released for production all LED headlights. the lever- probably an updated design and probably for the updated R-tronic (E-gear) that just debuted in the LP-560. the sideblades- probably a test to see if the V10 doesn't need them. and it is possible that the V10 may not have the larger blades because audi figured out a way to cool the extra 2 cylinders without them! perhaps the mules we have seen with the wider blades were old mules or mules for a TT motor of some kind.

and finally. who cares about the tool who posted them and the corn fed beauties that he hangs out with. at least the poor bastard posted them. for all we know he is friends with another tool who has a part time job cleaning these cars up in the tampa area or the guy driving it decided to go visit this poor bastard for shits and giggles and while he was inside taking a dump this guy decided to take pics. i can tell you one thing. audi will not be happy about this unless it is intentional....

:king:

Z07
May 14th, 2008, 19:40
Guys, look how different the RS4 and R8's engines bays look despite having the same engine:

R8's V8 is dry sumped.

Mr Balsen
May 14th, 2008, 20:42
R8's V8 is dry sumped.

Ant there are two independant intake manifolds. And the Engine ECU is different. And...

Frederic

The Pretender
May 14th, 2008, 21:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK6Pbod8hPc&eurl=http://www.autoscoops.eu/autoforum/viewtopic.php?t=15427&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

Jarod.

Audifan92
May 14th, 2008, 21:38
On left lane news I saw a headline that said the R8 will get the RS6s V10 minus the turbos

Audifan92
May 14th, 2008, 21:43
Heres the article:
and i guess this answers why this guy has the R8 V10


We reported back in March (http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi-a5-convertible-to-replace-a4-drop-top-adui-production-schedule-leaked.html)and April (http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi-r8-slated-to-get-twin-turbo-v10-from-rs6-avant.html)that Audi (http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi.htm) was preparing a V10-powered version of the R8 (http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi-r8.html), and it looks as though the first evidence of such an endeavor is on the road. However, while the V10 R8 will use the same 5.2L V10 found in the Audi RS6 Avant, the R8's powerplant will ditch the wagon's twin-turbo setup.

Audi is reportedly loaning a pre-production prototype of the new V10-powered car to a select few current R8 owners.
Not only will the new model sport two more cylinders, but it will also feature new front and rear bumpers and a revised exhaust system.
It remains unclear what Audi will call the new model, but Autocar reports that the RS8 nameplate is likely, leaving the RS version of the A8 in limbo. However, R10 still remains a possibility.
The 4.2L V8-powered R8 makes 420 horsepower, and it is expected that the new V10 engine will bump the R8's rating to at least 500 horsepower. The V10-powered Audi R8 is expected to bow in September with an on sale date of early to mid 2009.
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The Pretender
May 14th, 2008, 21:47
On left lane news I saw a headline that said the R8 will get the RS6s V10 minus the turbos
It will get the same 5.2 V10 FSI Audi engine as the Lamborghini LP-560-4.

Jarod.

Ruergard
May 14th, 2008, 22:20
That sounds very, very promising! :revs:

YlwBeast
May 15th, 2008, 01:02
This is DEFINITELY promising! I just want to know, I've bought quite a few Audi's myself (9 and counting) including my current R8, and no one has contacted me to test drive an R8 V10:vhmmm:
Just Kidding!!! Can't wait...I LOVE my R8!:R8kiss:

YlwBeast
May 15th, 2008, 01:04
...can't hide anything from you guys, way more on top of Audi news than I am, and I'm sure you've all seen this...
http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0806_audi_rs8/index.html
PS sorry if a repeat...

Rage
May 15th, 2008, 15:07
R8 V10 NA not turbo'd as confirmed by EVO magazine.

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/221982/audi_r8.html

Get your orders in....

Damienr8
May 15th, 2008, 19:25
I predicted in the past a high revving 5.2L V10 with 520hp. Lets hope my wishes come through.

Is anyone planning on purchasing the V10 by any chance? I know RXBG has thoughts but does anyone else?

Audifan92
May 15th, 2008, 19:38
My dad told me that he put a deposit on it.
He already has an R8, but he can't refuse a R8 with a V10 and around 560 HP.

ben916
May 15th, 2008, 19:48
yes it is a v10. if you look in my pictures i placed a picture r8 v8 next to the r8 v10. i am assuming you are a member of r6. com (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vcjYuY29t). if so could you post a comment for me? tell the last man that the detail business is mine and my customer was standing next to me when i took the pictures and he also took the picture of me and my girlfriend!! my customer is the one driving the r8 out of my driveway.
i have driven more cars than he has wet dreams about and i own my house how about him?!?!
thank you
dennis
http://distinctivedetailingsrq. com/ (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vZGlzdGluY3RpdmVkZXRhaWxpbmdzcnEuY29tLw ==)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Benjamin..
Date: May 14, 2008 12:04 PM


There is some controversy on the internet specifically on the website ..RS6.
com.. about the white R8. People seem to think it is a V10.
.. Can you confirm this? Thanks


From the horse's mouth so to say....

+44 Dave
May 15th, 2008, 19:54
You may remember before christmas, i was looking at a 911 turbo. I didn't ever buy one. Well i'm happy to tell you all that i'm considering the R8 V10, however won't be ordering untill engine specifications are announced.

Kimbo
May 15th, 2008, 19:59
I'm moving to a V10 for sure. #1 spot at the dealer my V8 came from.

AndyBG
May 15th, 2008, 20:04
You may remember before christmas, i was looking at a 911 turbo. I didn't ever buy one. Well i'm happy to tell you all that i'm considering the R8 V10, however won't be ordering untill engine specifications are announced.

Yes, but how things are going with Audis time tables these days, you want be able to sit in it before early 2010... :rolleyes:

RXBG
May 16th, 2008, 13:54
[QUOTE=ben916;131229]yes it is a v10. if you look in my pictures i placed a picture r8 v8 next to the r8 v10. i am assuming you are a member of r6. com (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vcjYuY29t). if so could you post a comment for me? tell the last man that the detail business is mine and my customer was standing next to me when i took the pictures and he also took the picture of me and my girlfriend!! my customer is the one driving the r8 out of my driveway.
i have driven more cars than he has wet dreams about and i own my house how about him?!?!
thank you
dennis
http://distinctivedetailingsrq. com/ (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vZGlzdGluY3RpdmVkZXRhaWxpbmdzcnEuY29tLw ==)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Benjamin..
Date: May 14, 2008 12:04 PM


There is some controversy on the internet specifically on the website ..RS6.
com.. about the white R8. People seem to think it is a V10.
.. Can you confirm this? Thanks


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:hihi: hey ben, tell that dude i am the one guy here who believed him and tried to defend the poor bastard. and yes, you can tell him i own my own house. and i also own my own R8. but also tell him he has to move his female company up a couple of notches! (yep- i could prove the caliber of a$$ i used to get before getting married but that would be beyond the scope of this post- though, if i remember correctly, kimbo could vouch for me)

damien- yep. i am #2 at a dealer i can trust and who only asked for a refundable $500 deposit. my perspective on life HAS changed though. i am in love with my little valentina and though i do plan on getting the V10 i "could" change and go for an RS6 or the next S8. we'll see. as it stands, i have 2K on my car, love it to death, and expect to drive for at least 12 months before my V10 gets allocated. so far--- 99.9% sure my next ride will be a V10. i am also #1 for the V12 TDI. i beat the #2 guy by one phone call.....

ben916
May 16th, 2008, 16:49
:hihi: hey ben, tell that dude i am the one guy here who believed him and tried to defend the poor bastard. and yes, you can tell him i own my own house. and i also own my own R8. but also tell him he has to move his female company up a couple of notches! (yep- i could prove the caliber of a$$ i used to get before getting married but that would be beyond the scope of this post- though, if i remember correctly, kimbo could vouch for me)

damien- yep. i am #2 at a dealer i can trust and who only asked for a refundable $500 deposit. my perspective on life HAS changed though. i am in love with my little valentina and though i do plan on getting the V10 i "could" change and go for an RS6 or the next S8. we'll see. as it stands, i have 2K on my car, love it to death, and expect to drive for at least 12 months before my V10 gets allocated. so far--- 99.9% sure my next ride will be a V10. i am also #1 for the V12 TDI. i beat the #2 guy by one phone call.....

RXBG,

I informed that guy (Dennis) that it isn't a contest to see who has the biggest "unit" or who has the deepest pockets or biggest house. I only asked him for information about the car and if he knows the owner AND if it isn't too much trouble for him to get contact information so I/WE/YOU could contact the owner to get the REAL scoop...

Leadfoot
May 17th, 2008, 09:19
To release to odd bit of info is fine and needed but to actual see the car on the internet without approval is not something I can agree with even if it's great to see.

I doubt you will EVER see that happen any time soon.

Leadfoot
May 17th, 2008, 09:21
RXBG,

I informed that guy (Dennis) that it isn't a contest to see who has the biggest "unit" or who has the deepest pockets or biggest house. I only asked him for information about the car and if he knows the owner AND if it isn't too much trouble for him to get contact information so I/WE/YOU could contact the owner to get the REAL scoop...

I know who the owner of this car is but can't say on the internet.

ben916
May 17th, 2008, 19:39
OK, follow up email from Dennis:

per audi can not answer anymore questions

Z07
May 18th, 2008, 11:57
Has this been posted yet?

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/default.asp?storyId=18069]PistonHeads Headlines

Damienr8
May 19th, 2008, 17:47
Do you fellas think there is any chance that the R8 V10 would weigh in less than the V8 R8. In my ideal world, i would like to see the R8 V10 come in at about 25 kilograms less that the V8 model due to the use of weight saving materials and a lighter V10. That would be awesome. Also, any idea's on the weight of the V10 compared to the outgoing V8?

- Damien

KresoF1
May 19th, 2008, 17:55
Do you fellas think there is any chance that the R8 V10 would weigh in less than the V8 R8. In my ideal world, i would like to see the R8 V10 come in at about 25 kilograms less that the V8 model due to the use of weight saving materials and a lighter V10. That would be awesome. Also, any idea's on the weight of the V10 compared to the outgoing V8?

- Damien

Damien,

It will weight more. Engine(V10) is about 35kg heavier and another 15kg will be for some additional goodies... In the end R8 V10 will be around 50kg heavier and weight distribution will be little bit more rear biased.

Intro for R8 V10 will be either Paris 2008 or LA Show in November 2008. Sales start late Q1 2009(read late March 2009)...

Power... 386kw/525ps... As Zerocool mentioned already few times in some threads...

RXBG
May 19th, 2008, 18:04
sounds like it will weigh in close to what the GTR weighs. with more pwer and about 20 lb/ft less torque.

this will be the car to beat imo. and considering how many new options are coming out it'll be a step up in the luxury category. leather on the entire center console, more CF, and all that power will be awesome. i'd guess it'll be paris when they show it, though audi could afford to wait a bit longer so it can face off with the LFA with whom i really want to see it run.

these two cars will be neck and neck. i think the V10 R8 should be able to hit 200 mph given that the V8 can make 187. however, if the LFA has DSG it'll be faster than a manual R8 V10.

i'd like to see the V10 make 60 in 3.9 (official) and 3.7 (manual) and 3.4 (r-tronic with launch control a la LP-560). but we will see.

KresoF1
May 19th, 2008, 18:15
Performance for R8 V10?

Wild guess...

0-100km/h: 3.9s(both manual and R Tronic, worst case scenario 4.0s)
0-200km/h:12.8s(realistic since it needs to be slower then LP560-4, best case scenario is 12.6s)
Max: 315km/h

Price upcharge will be at least €25K in EU.

Damienr8
May 19th, 2008, 18:30
Damien,

It will weight more. Engine(V10) is about 35kg heavier and another 15kg will be for some additional goodies... In the end R8 V10 will be around 50kg heavier and weight distribution will be little bit more rear biased.

Intro for R8 V10 will be either Paris 2008 or LA Show in November 2008. Sales start late Q1 2009(read late March 2009)...

Power... 386kw/525ps... As Zerocool mentioned already few times in some threads...

I see, if audi somehow kept the weight of the V10 as same as the V8 that would have been awesome.

As for times, my guesses are:
0-60 - Official 4.2 / Real World 3.7
1.4 mile - Official 12.2 / Real World 11.8

Leadfoot
May 19th, 2008, 19:28
I see, if audi somehow kept the weight of the V10 as same as the V8 that would have been awesome.

As for times, my guesses are:
0-60 - Official 4.2 / Real World 3.7
1.4 mile - Official 12.2 / Real World 11.8

Best wait until the official figures are released. ;)

One thing I do believe is that it's supreme handling will not be effected in anyway, in fact I reckon things might just improve. ;)

RXBG
May 19th, 2008, 20:22
realistically audi will give it 4.2 to 60. though this will be kinda silly given it is the LP 560 minus a few horses and about the same exact weight!

knowing the marketers, it'll likely not have the special launch function of the lambo (though that'll be irrelevant to the real enthusiasts who go for the manual version).