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Drivethru
February 25th, 2008, 16:39
Roumors from audi sweden says that the R8 with 525hp 5.0FSI engine will be lounched late this year about nov-dec.

IhateRWD
February 25th, 2008, 17:06
Man what you are saying is amazing, i would love to see that Audi will launch R8 V10 with that kind of power, i think it will humiliate cars with 600+ hp...Jesus please give us this:)

tvrfan
February 25th, 2008, 17:28
oh my god, please stop talking that shit "i hate RWD" it will be a good competitor to 997 GT2 and 430 Scuderia. not more!!! it wont humiliate cars with 600hp + ! not even stock, the car is not build for that too.

pampas
February 25th, 2008, 18:11
Man what you are saying is amazing, i would love to see that Audi will launch R8 V10 with that kind of power, i think it will humiliate cars with 600+ hp...Jesus please give us this:)



where are u from ? what city, I mean ?
what car do you drive ?

IhateRWD
February 26th, 2008, 09:30
on the track like R8 4.2FSI did, on the track is the one of the fastest car in the world you know how better is handdles and how fast it is so R8 V10 will be a monster. I've just found out from my dealer and friend that exactly what Drivethru said:R8 V10 will have an 5.0FSI 525HP and the R8 V12 TDI is aprooved to enter after the V10 version. So it would be 3 R8 to choose from,that's hot:)

Leadfoot
February 26th, 2008, 09:37
Roumors from audi sweden says that the R8 with 525hp 5.0FSI engine will be lounched late this year about nov-dec.

These are the exact figures I did say it would have and that it would be a new engine, lighter than the 5.2FSi in the S6 and S8 and could make it's way into the RS5.

+44 Dave
February 26th, 2008, 10:05
oh my god, please stop talking that shit "i hate RWD" it will be a good competitor to 997 GT2 and 430 Scuderia. not more!!! it wont humiliate cars with 600hp + ! not even stock, the car is not build for that too.

From EVO magazines laptimes at Bedford Autodrome, The standard R8 posts a time of 1.22.20 which is above the Koenigsegg CCX which posts a time of 1.22.30. Doesn't the CCX cost quite a bit more than the R8 say 200,000 pounds more ? and it produces over 600bhp.

I'm not saying the R8 could challenge it in a straight line but around the track it wins which is really quite embarrassing.

Enzo - 1.21.30
Gallardo S'leggera - 1.21.80
R8 - 1.22.20
Koenigsegg CCX - 1.22.30
Lotus Exige S - 1.22.40
Ferrari F599 GTB - 1.23.10
Ferrari F430 - 1.24.10

:applause:

So think of what the V10 R8 will do ? I think it'll definately challenge 600bhp upwards around the track.

KresoF1
February 26th, 2008, 10:26
Nurburgring times by German Sport auto are telling us pretty different story...

R8 even with Magnetic Ride, Corsa tires and Ceramics is not faster then old Porsche 996 Turbo(with street tires!) so, as I said before EVO Bedford track time for R8 is little bit over enthusiastic IMHO...

Sport Auto Ring times:

Audi R8(standard suspension, Corsas, Ceramics, manual) 8.04min
Audi R8(Magnetic Ride, Corsa Evoluzione, Ceramics, manual) 7.58min -unofficially
Ferrari F430F1(Corsas, Ceramics) 7.55min
Porsche 997 Turbo(manual, Michelin Cups, LSD, Ceramics) 7.52min
Lamborghini Gallardo(500hp, Corsas, Sport suspension) 7.52min
Porsche 997 GT3(Ceramics) 7.48min
Lamborghini Gallardo SL(Ceramics, Corsas, e-gear) 7.46min
Porsche 997 GT2 7.33min

BTW, R8 V10 will have 520hp since new Gallardo LP560/4 has 560hp. Basically new R8 V10 will have the same engine as new LP560/4 just with different intake system. 5.2L V10 high reving unit. Max revs around 8300rpm...

Leadfoot
February 26th, 2008, 11:20
KersoF1,

Based on the info you are providing the best estimates I would say is that the R8v10 which does out-handle the current Gallardo and from what I am told be quite a measure should have the new car posting a ring lap time somewhere in the high 7:4?, possibly even a 7:45.

The reason for the current and future R8 lack of exceptional times on the ring is not their cornering abilities but their drag co., the shape isn't slippery enough to reach the high speeds required to promote a really good time. Even the R8v10 will struggle to reach the really high speeds though it will be quite a bit higher than the v8 version.

The ring is a one-off among race tracks in the normal sense of the word, it, LeMans and a handful of others allow for extreme speeds to be reached, this is seldom the case is most tracks and if you are lucky enough to ever own a R8v10 I doubt to many will even come pass you as the cars capable of such a thing are very limited.

Even the mighty GTR will have a very hard time either getting pass or pulling away.

IhateRWD
February 26th, 2008, 14:39
You are thinking very well Leadfoot, an R8 V10 would be passed only by supercars and drivers who are really speeding with their cars but in normal situation R8 V10 even the standard R8 is a magnificent machine that can pass 95% of the cars from the road, especially here where 99% of the cars are TDI-CRDI-DCI-TDCI stupid diesels, not sportscars. Here if someone count in one day long 20 gasoline cars with more than 200HP it would be a miracle...
long live the "blingin' boulevards"...RO is like a small LA show off when nobody is speeding just fancing and that's not hot at all...i would love to own an R8 V10 or even an standard R8, it's my dream maybe will happen sooner or later:)

blue_r
February 26th, 2008, 14:59
TDI-CRDI-DCI-TDCI stupid diesels

EXCUSE ME!!!! did you just say STUPID DIESELS???!!! may i remind you that Audi just showed its R8 TDi V12 concept to be on sale in 2011... can you say that this is also stupid??!!! i don't think so... also, aside from Audi, why don't you research about diesel engines and compare them to the gasoline ones and see who really are the ones who contribute pollution....

Damienr8
February 26th, 2008, 15:43
Guys Guys, please don't take "IHateRWD" seriously. We all know who he is (well at least myself, leadie and kreso) and he should not be posting on this board in the first place...

Apart from that, i like the idea of a 5.0LFSI 525 hp unit. Hopefully, it will be a very light / high revving unit. I can't wait to see what Audi has in store for us.

+44 Dave
February 26th, 2008, 16:36
Superstar driver or M3_Dude ?

The RS6
February 26th, 2008, 16:47
Superstar driver or M3_Dude ?

Superstar...

MR USER
February 26th, 2008, 16:48
5.0 FSI mmmmmmmm Diesel R8 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It will be an orgasmic car!!!

Damienr8
February 26th, 2008, 18:01
Superstar driver or M3_Dude ?

Superstar

IhateRWD
February 26th, 2008, 18:12
I only like the V12 TDI because doesn't sound like a normal diesel which is so disgusting for me and when you start a diesel the engine sounds like a truck !I hate other diesel's and don't care about pollution, i hate that rev limit and brrrrrrrrr, i like animal engines, i need sound and power. p.s. TFSI vs TDI doesn't compare, TFSI will kill any TDI because the only way you could compare TDI is with turbo engines because TDI is a turbo so you are comparing a turbo to a turbo!even so FSI is killing diesels. Why RS's are not diesels?You will see that R8 V12 TDI will not have an S/RS badge, only gasoline V10 will have that!And the future is hybrid gasoline not diesel engines, there was a statement last year where it says that diesel sales will decrease in the next 2 years and here diesel is more expensive than an gasoline, more expensive to the gas station, more expensive to service and sound so scary and awfull that even an Golf TSI sound more agressive than any diesel (except V12TDI). You can't change a diesel sound to sound better even with new exaust,only gasolines can!I will never be a fan of diesel's, a man is a man and drive an animal gasoline car...

The Pretender
February 26th, 2008, 20:16
Roumors from audi sweden says that the R8 with 525hp 5.0FSI engine will be lounched late this year about nov-dec.
It will be a high rev (Like the RS4 4.2 V8) 5.2 litre V10 FSI engine with 520 hp, 100 hp per litre.
The 5.0 litre V10 is the TFSI engine.

Jarod.

Leadfoot
February 26th, 2008, 20:52
It will be a high rev (Like the RS4 4.2 V8) 5.2 litre V10 FSI engine with 520 hp, 100 hp per litre.
The 5.0 litre V10 is the TFSI engine.

Jarod.

I had been told this engine was to be both lighter than the current 5.2Lv8 in the S6/8 and that it would have a slightly smaller bore to allow larger water cooling holes to aid the higher revning which would be in excess of 8250rpm. Maybe my capacity estimates are out but the rest I believe is spot on.

RXBG
February 26th, 2008, 20:55
It will be a high rev (Like the RS4 4.2 V8) 5.2 litre V10 FSI engine with 520 hp, 100 hp per litre.
The 5.0 litre V10 is the TFSI engine.

Jarod.

i just can't believe it'll have that much power. how will the lambo be any significantly better at 50K more? seriously!

don't get me wrong. the R8 deserves that kind of power. and at 30K USD more than the V8 it would be priced right (140K base). even if it were 40K more it'd be 150K USD- 50K less than the current gayardo.

i think audi will have a marketing problem on its hands. the only way to minimize it will be to give the R8 500 hp and the gayardo 50 more in order to justify the price difference.

The Pretender
February 26th, 2008, 21:21
The R8 V10 would get 480 hp, but of late it's 520 hp.

Jarod.

IhateRWD
February 26th, 2008, 22:08
R8 V10 will have for sure 5.0V10 FSI and 525HP (new engine) derived from the V10 of the actual Gallardo and Gallardo will have the new LP550 which will be priced much higher than the current model and R8 V10 will fit perfectly you all see that. And yes it will be a very high revving engine with more than 8250rpm and better gearbox similiar to the one that LP550 will have. It's all confirmed right now, i know for sure.

The Pretender
February 26th, 2008, 22:21
Yes you are right, it make a lot of sence to give the new Gallardo LP 550 instead of a 5.0 litre a new 5.2 litre V10 FSI engine and the Audi instead of a 5.2 litre V10 FSI a 5.0 litre engine. :doh: :bye:
What ever you think you know, i know better. ;)


Jarod.

Z07
February 26th, 2008, 23:08
Any word on the projected weight yet?

chewym
February 27th, 2008, 01:05
BTW, R8 V10 will have 520hp since new Gallardo LP560/4 has 560hp. Basically new R8 V10 will have the same engine as new LP560/4 just with different intake system. 5.2L V10 high reving unit. Max revs around 8300rpm...

The ring is definitely a power track and the R8 V8 is somewhat ordinary with power compared to other fast cars. The R8 has done very well on tighter tracks.

But you are right with the engine, I am pretty sure the R8 v10 and Gallardo LP 550will run pretty much the same engine. In the US you can expect a very small horsepower difference as the LP 550 only has 542 US horsepower.

ZeroCool
February 27th, 2008, 09:50
5.2FSI, V10 with 386kW - that's it ;)

IhateRWD
February 27th, 2008, 10:08
i found out about 5.0FSI but if you say that 5.2 it's ok with that but i knew for sure that it will have at least 100HP/L so 120-125HP!And Gallardo will boost 550HP and priced much much higher, i heard about 195000 euro's and R8 V10 about 135000 euro's here. About the weight i only know that R8 V10 will have 1650kg aproximately and official 0-62 in about 4.2s (unofficial well could do much better than this).

Rage
February 27th, 2008, 16:52
These are the exact figures I did say it would have and that it would be a new engine, lighter than the 5.2FSi in the S6 and S8 and could make it's way into the RS5.


Very cool. I wonder what the weight of the new V10 is compared to V8TT?

If they fitted the RS5 with the same engine as the R8V10 that would be mental:hahahehe:

RXBG
February 27th, 2008, 17:02
i think the RS5 will have a 4.2TT with about 480 hp. much like the old RS6 plus

The Pretender
February 27th, 2008, 17:59
The Gallardo LP560-4 will debut @ Geneva.
The R8 V10 will have a tune down version of the same engine.

Jarod.

Leadfoot
February 27th, 2008, 18:44
Guys the discussion I had with my mate ;) was that at that time (3 months ago) was that QuattroGmbH wanted a N/A high revving unit capable of producing close to 500Nm (no HP figures). Whether this is still they considered choice I don't know but if it still is their desired goal would this be capable from a small capacity V8. :vhmmm:

Damienr8
February 27th, 2008, 20:06
So what is everyone's sources telling them now? I think that the 5.0L 525hp FSI sounds good.

The Pretender
February 27th, 2008, 20:18
So what is everyone's sources telling them now? I think that the 5.0L 525hp FSI sounds good.
It will not be a 5.0 litre.

Jarod.

ZeroCool
February 27th, 2008, 20:48
So what is everyone's sources telling them now? I think that the 5.0L 525hp FSI sounds good.

i wrote it 5 posts over yours....and i write it again...

5.2FSI, V10 with 386kW

i'm out of this discussion....let's wait and see whether i was right or wrong :D

Leadfoot
February 27th, 2008, 23:42
The output figures are right so I guess you are right with the capacity as well, the only thing I know is that it's a little different to that of the S6/8 engine. What the differences are is up for discussion.

chewym
February 28th, 2008, 01:35
The only differences is that it will run more RPMs. Currently the Gallardo makes 520 horsepower @ 8,000 RPM and 376 lb-ft of torque @ 4,250. The V10 in the S8 is a bigger version of the regular Audi V series engine, 450 hp @ 7,000 RPM and 398 lb-ft of torque @ 3,500. About the same specs as the 4.2 V8 and the 3.2 V6. The new R8/LP 560 engine will be the equivalent of the RS4 V8 version of the regular V8.