TT RS cold weather testmule. ? [Archive] - RS6.com

The Pretender

January 20th, 2008, 14:29

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Jarod.

Leadfoot

January 20th, 2008, 15:06

Great find, the very fact this TT is running drilled disc brakes does give the impression that this is no ordinary TT.

Ruergard

January 20th, 2008, 17:43

Very nice, this is interesting.. very interesting!

Rage

January 21st, 2008, 08:38

Why RS?

2 exhausts, Brakes?

The Pretender

January 21st, 2008, 19:03

More pics.

http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/118YDPj58iGVGWY_450x300.jpg
http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/7czT1P0nUMHSMo_450x300.jpg
http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/5czBj_nt5AGCk6_450x300.jpg
http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/0CbECgE_lan0iQ_450x300.jpg
http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/2czfqsVgDMaNng_450x300.jpg

Jarod.

Leadfoot

January 21st, 2008, 19:19

Why RS?

2 exhausts, Brakes?

Well Rage what else could it be, the diesel has already been seen and it had two pipes at the side like any A3 TDi, the TT/S is already released so it can't be that.

The RS6 was seen months before any official photos of the thing and it was always seen in testing with the oval pipes. The drilled brakes are not there for show, not standard TT has them or needs them so clearly this is no ordinary TT. Also the nose isn't run of the mill TT, it might be similar to the S/Line but then again the Black TT which was lapping around the ring (the one reported as sounding like a RS4) also had this nose.

It's the TT/RS alright.

deveraux

January 21st, 2008, 23:46

ams wrote about these pics today - they think it will come in august 2009 with a "loaded" V6 between 340 and 365hp

Rage

January 22nd, 2008, 08:25

ams wrote about these pics today - they think it will come in august 2009 with a "loaded" V6 between 340 and 365hp

Just when i thought everyone had agreed it would be a I5 2.3:)

Id be impressed if it got that much HP. 340-365 seems a big jump.

The Pretender

January 22nd, 2008, 15:52

Leadfoot

January 22nd, 2008, 16:24

Seeing that the TTS has only 22 hp more then the 250 hp 3.2 VR6, i can't imagine that the TT RS will have 340-365 hp.
310 hp is more likely IMHO a 38 ps power hike over the TTS and 60 hp power hike over the 3.2.
Futher i'm not seeing to happen that the TT RS will get more power then the new S4 and S5 either.

Jarod.

I understand why you are saying this but do you believe that the RS5 won't be pushing out more than the 435hp of the S6. Trust me on this that ain't going to happen, the RS5 will be closer to 470hp and in any case the TT isn't competing with the S5, it's competition is the Z4 and the M version has 344hp (might be as much as 420hp with the new model) so I reckon the very least the TTRS will have is the 340hp and could go as high as 380hp if required because the engine is good for it. :hahahehe:

The Pretender

January 22nd, 2008, 17:23

It's not the power that is important but the weight.

TT RS ± 1410 kg / ± 310-330 hp = 4.55-4.27.
Z4M 1485 Kg / 344 hp = 4.32.
SLK AMG 1540 Kg / 360 hp = 4.27.

Jarod.

Leadfoot

January 22nd, 2008, 23:40

It's not the power that is important but the weight.

TT RS ± 1410 kg / ± 310-330 hp = 4.55-4.27.
Z4M 1485 Kg / 344 hp = 4.32.
SLK AMG 1540 Kg / 360 hp = 4.27.

Jarod.

The only way for Audi to drop the weight down to your suggested 1410Kgs would be to remove the rear seats and possibly a use some CF panels. So while there may be a slight weight drop I reckon the power will have to be higher than 310~330hp.

The Pretender

January 23rd, 2008, 05:25

If a five cylinder turbo engined TT RS will weigh more then a 3.2 Quattro i think audi is going the wrong way.
A 3.6 VR6 FSI engine weigh the same as a 3.2 and have 300 hp.

Jarod.

The Pretender

January 23rd, 2008, 16:08

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/_internal/cimg%210/asttjn2ivm2lfmj2uci42qcag4qugdq.jpeg

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/_internal/cimg%210/tu7dp0t4wn8ouunvpf2gx7iym94skr5.jpeg

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/_internal/cimg%210/4lwv537xq0j9h4wji94xauz1t9kx7ak.jpeg

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/_internal/cimg%210/8ibxt4g65n85kfpksw850g3pjrjuf95.jpeg

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/_internal/cimg%210/d63ovelu80sntbppcppcbst4l4pmx1g.jpeg

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Jarod.

Leadfoot

January 23rd, 2008, 19:59

If a five cylinder turbo engined TT RS will weigh more then a 3.2 Quattro i think audi is going the wrong way.
A 3.6 VR6 FSI engine weigh the same as a 3.2 and have 300 hp.

Jarod.

I know that Audi HAVE been testing the TT/RS with in excess of 375hp back in the middle of last year (this car when to Nardo). Whether Audi end up giving the production car this much is up for debate but it will be a lot more than 300hp that's for sure.

Audiphile

January 24th, 2008, 02:29

So, is there any Clubsport influence in this? I do not see any in terms of bodywork. Would love to see the same flared fenders as on the Clubsport as well a similar front fascia as the Clubsport.

ZeroCool

January 24th, 2008, 12:35

@Audiphile...

That's just a testmule for the engine...so it looks like a "normal" TT ... in the final version they'll put all the other extras :) Maybe also some from the Clubsport ;)

Leadfoot

January 24th, 2008, 21:51

I agree, this is only a test bed for components of the TTRS, based on how different the TTS's nose is compared to the rest of the range we can expect to see something a bit different than what we are seeing in these photos don't you think.

Edit.

The only thing I am sure of is that the brakes will make it to production. ;)

They will be needed. :hahahehe:

The Pretender

January 24th, 2008, 22:19

Leadfoot

January 24th, 2008, 22:36

I dont see a 365 hp TT-RS happening.
If 365 hp it will be 93 hp stronger then a TTS while the TTS only is 22 hp stronger then the 3.2, there is no logic in it IMHO.
Still believe it will be more in the neighbourhood of 310 hp out of a 2.3 litre five cylinder engine.

Jarod.

Currently the S5 makes 354hp, what do you reckon the RS5 will make?

Based on your estimates of an increase of 14% over the S model than the RS5 will only make 403hp. The S6 makes 435hp and the RS6 makes 580hp, an increased of 33%. See what wrong with your thinking.

The RS5 will close close to 480hp which would be an increase of 35%, I doubt the TTRS will do the same based on it's lighter construction but if they did that would put it's output at 362Hp(33%)~368hp(35%) depending on which car you chose as a guide.

Interesting figures when slap bang in the middle is 365hp. ;)

ZeroCool

January 24th, 2008, 22:36

logic? Do you really think that there is a logic behind giving the cars the HP?

I don't think so...

Let's take the A6 ... the strongest A6 has

350HP The S6 has

435HP and the RS6 has

580HP

So thats 85 HP difference between A6 and S6 and 145 HP between S6 and RS6 - so between the strongest A6 and the RS6 are 230 HP difference...

With the A4 its the same game...

Strongest A4 - 265 HP
S4 - 344 HP
RS4 - 420 HP

So don't you think that they could do this with the TT/TT-S/TT-RS also?!

I personally think that they're looking to beat the other manufacturers in performance, handling and so on :) That's the criteria which i think they're looking for :)

------------

EDIT :)

Leadie - we had the same thoughts ;)
but i was just a little to slow ...

The Pretender

January 24th, 2008, 22:51

So don't you think that they could do this with the TT/TT-S/TT-RS also?! ...
No, based on the 22 hp power difference between 3.2 and TTS.
Why only 8.8% more power for the TTS over the 3.2. ?
The only thing i can think of is that the TT 3.2 will end soon.
Then it will make sence to bring a 365 hp TT-RS, 36% more power for the TTS over the normal TT and 34% more power for the TT RS over the TTS.
Another option is that the TT RS will be a 300+ hp 3.6 VR6 FSI engined car.

Jarod.

ZeroCool

January 24th, 2008, 22:56

Maybe they'll give the TT-S a more powerful version?! With the Facelift?! So they give it "only" 275HP - to have more space to the TT-RS :)

And the TT-RS will get maybe 340 - 360HP - so that there won't be cannibalism between the TT-S (if it gets more power) and the TT-RS :D

Leadfoot

January 24th, 2008, 23:05

ZeroCool,

You are correct in saying that all manufacturers are competing with each other and only bring out a model which just beats the previous best so as to keep costs close and competitive.

So look at the car with which the TT has to compete against, the Z4 and the SLK. At the top of their respective ranges are the Z4M and the SLK55amg, the BMW puts out 343hp and the SLK has 355hp, their is also similar versions in each of their models reaching up to the M5 and the E63, again the BMW has the slightly less power at 507hp against the Merc's 514hp, now what is Audi placing their rival at, 580hp which is not even close to the others. The reason is I believe that Audi want to be top dog with respects to performance models, they have seen Merc change from force induction to N/A because of gearbox restrictions and are seizing the chance.

I am gauging my opinions on Audi's recent behaviour with regards to the RS policy, if they choose to give their RS6 a decent power advantage over the competition than chances are the RS5 will also have more and so on right down to the TTRS. You have to remember that the A4 model you were talking about had the S4 competing with the M3, this is no longer the case.

I am pretty confident that the TTRS will have in excess of 345hp.

ZeroCool

January 25th, 2008, 01:24

totally agree @Leadie...

But we only can drink coffee and wait :) Time will tell, who was right ;)

Leadfoot

January 25th, 2008, 09:58

totally agree @Leadie...

But we only can drink coffee and wait :) Time will tell, who was right ;)

I know I am right but if I am wrong then I will eat my seat belt. :D

ZeroCool

January 25th, 2008, 10:41

i also know that you're right :D
But it would be funny to see how you eat your seat belt ;)

Leadfoot

January 25th, 2008, 10:57

i also know that you're right :D
But it would be funny to see how you eat your seat belt ;)

Yeah if a man can eat a whole car then how difficult can it be. :vhmmm:

SigmaS6

January 25th, 2008, 18:22

So look at the car with which the TT has to compete against, the Z4 and the SLK. At the top of their respective ranges are the Z4M and the SLK55amg, the BMW puts out 343hp and the SLK has 355hp
I agree, the RS is the last shot Audi has to compete against those models, so brand internal restrictions should not apply to this car as it does not compete against e.g. an S4 but against Z4M and SLK55. And the Z4 will get renewed in 2009, so whatever Audi is putting in the RS has to be competitive enough for the next upgrade of the Z4M.

I'm rather optimistic, that we'll finally see a setup with the RS that's worthy of the TT's look :)

The only thing I don't like about the photos is that the photographer seems to have no problem walking around the car and getting pics from all angles but doesn't hit on making a pic from the engine bay from the bottom side. That would give the long awaited insight of how many pots are working in the mule :)

The Pretender

February 23rd, 2008, 01:37

Audi TT RS Cabrio.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj111/puhpuhpuhpuhpuh/audi-tt-rs-cabrio-1.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj111/puhpuhpuhpuhpuh/audi-tt-rs-cabrio-2.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj111/puhpuhpuhpuhpuh/audi-tt-rs-cabrio-3.jpg

Jarod.

SigmaS6

February 23rd, 2008, 11:45

I'd say yummy and a strong indicator that it will be released around next spring. Btw, on the second shot it looks to me as if the clearance between bumper and right exhaust pipe was made manually, it doesn't look that regular. Or is it just the perspective :)

The Pretender

February 23rd, 2008, 11:53

on the second shot it looks to me as if the clearance between bumper and right exhaust pipe was made manually, it doesn't look that regular. Or is it just the perspective :)
Yes that's manual cut, it's a 2.0TFSI S-line valance.

Jarod.

ZeroCool

February 23rd, 2008, 12:55

The Pretender

February 23rd, 2008, 13:03

i've never seen before the brake callipers at the front side...like it's on these pics...as far as i can remember...

does this have a special background?!

EDIT:

I just saw that the TTS also has them like this spy pics...
All longitudinal engined Audi's have them on the rearside of the rotor and all transverse engined Audi's have them on the front side of the rotor.

Jarod.

ZeroCool

February 23rd, 2008, 13:05

Ok, thank you ;)

Leadfoot

February 23rd, 2008, 13:38

SigmaS6

February 23rd, 2008, 13:43

The TT/RS will be launched ahead of the RS5. :thumb:
Isn't the RS5 already due in Feb 09?

Leadfoot

February 23rd, 2008, 14:05

Isn't the RS5 already due in Feb 09?

I have never had this confirmed so I'm guessing this time may have slipped. :thumb:

PeterJohn

February 23rd, 2008, 14:26

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/_internal/cimg%210/d63ovelu80sntbppcppcbst4l4pmx1g.jpeg

Funny how the heat from the little license plate lamps is able to melt snow through the metal of the bonnet.

The snow pattern on the back also clearly show only the right hand side the exhaust is functional.