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AndyBG
January 20th, 2008, 01:14
Article is in german, but you can take a look any way...

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/tests/vergleichstest/hxcms_article_509262_13987.hbs

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/tests/vergleichstest/hxcms_article_509262_14009.hbs?ext_site_number=2

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/tests/vergleichstest/hxcms_article_509262_13987.hbs?ext_site_number=3

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fotos/foto-shows/test_U_technik/mpsfshw_show_503422_13999.hbs

...little suprisengly outcome...

Leadfoot
January 20th, 2008, 15:12
If the VW can win this contest against one of the best handling SUV and wins it with a performance disadvantage then what will the Q7TDi V12 not do to the competition, it's engine weighs no more, it's go a better weight balanced chassis and it's probably the quickest SUV on the planet at the moment.

Hold on to your hats, there's a battle coming and it ain't going to be sweet.

AndyBG
January 20th, 2008, 22:17
Hold on to your hats, there's a battle coming and it ain't going to be sweet.

I agree...

chewym
January 21st, 2008, 04:53
Can anyone summarize why the Touareg won? Great victory, the difference in fuel consumption is quite big.

JavierNuvolari
January 21st, 2008, 14:49
Can't...read....german...:vgrumpy:
Come on guys, could one of the german/english speakers give summarize it for us? please..:)

Cheers:cheers:

xotic
January 25th, 2008, 10:38
Here is a crude translation from our friends at Altavista (http://babelfish.altavista.com/)

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At times, in which nearly equal much cost different fuel places, one may send already times a Benziner against a Diesel into running. The speech is of Porsche Cayenne GTS and VOLKSWAGEN Touareg R50, with which one looks for the contraction TDI at the car however in vain.

Sprinter against Schwer-athlete

The Porsche developers sent the Cayenne S into the Fitness fitness-Studio and to that 385 HP of strong 4,8-Liter-V8 gasoline direct A splash 20 additional HP with 6.500 routes rained. The torque is with 500 Newtonmeters on the level of the basis engine. These values prove the GTS as Sprinter, while the 850 Nm of the zehnzylindrigen Fuenfliter TDI the Touareg R50 rather as Schwer-athlete qualify, although the output was increased of 313 to 350 HP.

Although both begin in the heavyweight, the R50 brings again full 336 kilograms more on the balance. With the Sprint both catapult themselves from the startbloecken such as Carl Lewis with its legendary 100-Meter-Weltrekord 1991 in Tokyo. As the first the Porsche pushes itself over the 100-km/h-Marke. In addition the Porsche with 251 runs km/h maximum speed faster than likewise the VOLKSWAGEN not slow with 235 km/h.

Consumption is clearly too high

The R50 possesses however more perseverance, because while the GTS be enough-strains on already for 546 kilometers for new food thirsts, the VOLKSWAGEN must load its energy depot only after 685 kilometers. That corresponds to a consumption of 14,6 litres per 100 of kilometers - Diesels mind you -, while the GTS consumes inconceivable 18.3 litres of superpluses.

Also off the driving dynamics, the Cayenne is the clearly agilere car. Its steering element is noticeably more directly translated, which improves the guidance expenditure in curves both reduced and aiming accuracy. With the Touareg however too much feedback is lost through the higher servo support. Apart from it the kurvenverhalten is just as surely and to a large extent neutral owing to permanent all-wheel drive with the R50 as with the GTS. Only when fast giving in in close turns both Kolosse push somewhat over the front wheels.

Sportyness versus leaving

Both are similarly tightened from head to foot - speak of the roof edge spoiler at the rear flap up to the 21-Zoellern with 295/35er-Sportsocken -. Together with special interior equipment and outstanding in each case sport seats the Touareg R50 costs scarcely 11,000 euro more than the conventional V10 TDI. Porsche requires 79,367 euro for the GTS with Tiptronic, approximately 10,000 more than for the Cayenne S. however is clearly more favorable the VOLKSWAGEN in the maintenance. It is not completely as sporty as the agile Cayenne GTS, possesses however that leaving, which brings high power reserves with itself.

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1. VW Touareg R50

491 von 650 Punkten.
The R50 offers the more balanced total package, is more comfortably, well equipped and in the maintenance clearly more favorable.

2. Porsche Cayenne GTS

464 von 650 Punkten.
The GTS shines with so far a driving dynamics not known in this class, used up however decided too much fuel.

AndyBG
January 25th, 2008, 13:33
The GTS shines with so far a driving dynamics not known in this class...

... Porsche... :D

JavierNuvolari
January 25th, 2008, 15:18
Thanks for the translation mate. Will do it through altavista next time ;).
As for the review...I'm pleasently surprised by the Touareg, the Porsche...I kinda expected it would have a more dynamic beaviour.
Looking forward for a video showing it's capabilities.

Cheers all