I give you...the TT-RS? (HOTTT !)

[HKS786]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi-tt-rs-future.html
many more pics above ^^^



http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/september2007/audi-tt-rs-2.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/september2007/audi-tt-rs-3.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/september2007/audi-tt-rs-4.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/september2007/audi-tt-rs-8.jpg

[HKS786]

That front bumper is beautiful! That's what I wanted the TT-S bumper to be like! wow that is just perfect!

[HKS786]

I made a quick chop:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/J78628/Audi-TT_Coupe_S-line_2007_1024x768_.jpg

[AU-297]

I'm pretty sure it's not the final body... The grills look like they are temp. and the rear valance is cut funky by hand. My bet it's just a Mule in S-line clothing! Let's just hope it looks better than the TT-S puke:

[HKS786]

I'm pretty sure it's not the final body... The grills look like they are temp. and the rear valance is cut funky by hand. My bet it's just a Mule in S-line clothing! Let's just hope it looks better than the TT-S puke:

Yeah I agree. I think the front MIGHT be spot on though. Arches dont look wider or anything though. It reminds me of these old spypics:

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2006/11/21/6061121.001/6061121.001.Mini2L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2006/11/21/6061121.001/6061121.001.Mini3L.jpg

Personally I think we could see more cues from the clubsport concept. Especially for the rear. I'd love it if that happened:

http://nouvelles.autonet.ca/FR/Nouvelles/nouveau-modele/2007/05/16/TTclubsportquattrofront_small.jpg
http://www.millionnairedeluxe.com/files/images/Millionnaire%20Milliardaire%20Audi%20TT%20Clubspor t%20Concept%20i002.preview.jpg

[chewym]

the big question is how Audi will make those 340 hp. The TT range is getting a bit crowded with 200-->250-->280(I think 300 is out of the question for the TT-S with the news of 340 hp TT-RS)-->340.

[Fab]

Very promising pics. As usual the final shape will be much better with wide wheels arches etc... no doubt about it

I agree on the engine unknown. Audi should brake the 300hp mark to have a top of range TT vs competition. If this is the plan then it will not be the 2.0l engine for shure.

[RussianM3_dude]

How much is THAT going to cost. Definetly Cayman S money and then some.

[stIm]

So if this is an RS. Then the RS6 is due, this then shows the RS TT is next, so, as i have been saying we are at least 3 years away from seeing an RS5 ?????

[Iceman]

Car magazines have realy no clue what so ever, they are realy clueless.
Audi TT-RS my *ss it is just a TT 2.0TFSI Quattro and brakes testmule.
This car have the new chain driven 2.0 litre engine (the 1.8TFSI 2.0 litre brother) under the bonnet and big brakes to test.
This engine can have a power output between 211 and 295 hp.
The red TT is not a RS either,but was just a TT 3.2 Quattro test mule for brakes.
They only put on thinks to test and misderect, nothing more.
Audi did brake tests on a 3.2 Quattro and now on a 2.0 Quattro.

Hans.

[RussianM3_dude]

True... maybe all these mules are simply for the 2.0 Quattro, which was promised a long time ago.

[Leadfoot]

Car magazines have realy no clue what so ever, they are realy clueless.
Audi TT-RS my *ss it is just a TT 2.0TFSI Quattro and brakes testmule.
This car have the new chain driven 2.0 litre engine (the 1.8TFSI 2.0 litre brother) under the bonnet and big brakes to test.
This engine can have a power output between 211 and 295 hp.
The red TT is not a RS either,but was just a TT 3.2 Quattro test mule for brakes.
They only put on thinks to test and misderect, nothing more.
Audi did brake tests on a 3.2 Quattro and now on a 2.0 Quattro.

Hans.


That is exactly what I was told.

The most interesting thing you told us Hans was the number plate thing, V6 in the reg. usually means it's a V6. I will watch the reg. plate more closely from now on.:thumb:

[tvrfan]

wherent the S-Models not famous for their chrome grill? where is it on the TT-S =((??? i hope he has one at launch. what do you think?

[+44 Dave]

Why would a 2.0TFSI need those huge air intakes on the front?

[+44 Dave]

wherent the S-Models not famous for their chrome grill? where is it on the TT-S =((??? i hope he has one at launch. what do you think?

You ask this question everytime spy photos of test cars pop up that are "supposedly S or RS models."
The final answer is that they are only prototypes so why would they have the full "expensive" production grill on a test car!

[RussianM3_dude]

I think that the 2.0 Quattro model will kill V6 sales.

[Iceman]

True... maybe all these mules are simply for the 2.0 Quattro, which was promised a long time ago.
Yes, but Audi have change the time table for it because Audi want the TT 2.0TFSI Quattro have the new chain driven 2.0TFSI engine in it.
The present 2.0TFSI is a belt driven engine the new 2.0 litre is the same as the new 1.8TFSI engine.

Hans.

[Qisha]

Audi TT-RS my *ss it is just a TT 2.0TFSI Quattro and brakes testmule.

Dear Hans,

i am glad you did not bet your *ss, you would have lost it. :D

Qisha

[Iceman]

Dear Hans,

i am glad you did not bet your *ss, you would have lost it. :D

Qisha
Yeh, right.
Audi is testing the TTS with a complete new body kit for the hole world to see and test the TTRS with a S-line body kit, very convincing.
Btw, the real über TT was tested by Audi on Nardo italy. ;)
It had the arches of the clubsport Quattro and the same front and rear bumper like the Orange black taped TT Roadster.
And it was moving like hell with a awesome engine under the bonnet.

Hans.

[+44 Dave]

I dont think this TT pictured has a complete bodykit but i do think it has an engine more than a 2.0? After all why would as you think a 2.0TFSI need a "completely new bodykit" also? I think its a TT S/RS with any old body kit thrown on.

[Iceman]

First take a look a the license plate: HN = Heilbronn/Neckar - Baden-Württemberg.
Those plates are used a lot for Audi employee's.
This car look like a 2.0/3.2 Quattro S-line with a Borla exhaust and honeycomb side grills without foglights.
It have bigger brakes like all presend TT testmules.

Hans.

[Leadfoot]

This was what I was told about the origianl red TT with the S-Line bodykit and oval exhausts.

[+44 Dave]

First take a look a the license plate: HN = Heilbronn/Neckar - Baden-Württemberg.
Those plates are used a lot for Audi employee's.
This car look like a 2.0/3.2 Quattro S-line with a Borla exhaust and honeycomb side grills without foglights.
It have bigger brakes like all presend TT testmules.

Hans.

This isnt just an Audi employee's car if thats what your trying to say? It has different rims on the front to the rear of the car, its obviously out testing something. Its got a new front and rear (still looks like development stages) bodykit. Would the lowest and cheapest (2.0TFSI) engined TT model really get a sporting bodykit?
I dont think so which makes me think that this is a new sporting model, eg a coupe TTS (these have been spotted with 4 tailpipes, this car has 2.) or a TTRS which is the only option i can see?

And by the magazines are not a misimformed as you think, they talk to a lot for high up people and often these people are so excited about new models they let things slip to the journolists.

[Iceman]

I only try to say that it's not a ingolstadt plate like the supposed TTS pics.
And the body kit is just a S-line kit without the foglights up front due to intercooler airflo testing.
Further the wider standing wheels up front have something to do with the inline 5 TFSI engine getting transverse in the engine room.
if my info is up to date and correct.

Hans.

[tazsura]

IF...and it's a BIG IF....this is the TT-RS then surely this cannot be the final front bumper and rear bumper?

To my eyes the spy shots of the TT-S (or whatever it will be called) looks much, much more agressive...and this wouldn't make sense at all!

Taz :rs4kiss:

[AU-297]

Hey look... I own a TT RS!!!
http://images22.fotki.com/v809/photos/2/229737/5275056/DSC04054-vi.jpg
LOL
:ttaddict:

[chewym]

This engine can have a power output between 211 and 295 hp.
Hans.

211=TT 2.0 Quattro
295=good enough for a TT-S

[ZeroCool]

First take a look a the license plate: HN = Heilbronn/Neckar - Baden-Württemberg.
Those plates are used a lot for Audi employee's.

Hans.

Hans,

HN license plates are also used from the Quattro GmbH ... to test their cars...so it could really be a TT-RS?! don't you think so?

[Leadfoot]

I see WCF are under the belief that this grey TT is the TT/RS. But they also thought the same about the red one from months and months ago. If QuattroGmbH are preparing the TT/RS for production sometime in 2008 then chances are there will be no RS5 or RS4 for the foreseeable future as their production capacity wouldn't allow for such a wide variation of models at one time.

[tvrfan]

the TT-S is becoming a 2.0 TFSI 275hp engine. source from auto motor sport. its nearly official

[RussianM3_dude]

So the V6 model is being dropped... I mean whould anybody buy one now?

[tvrfan]

audi needs an RS3 or TT-RS to be comparable with bmw. i just say 135i and z4 m

[Leadfoot]

I would usually agree with this but in the case of the 135i and the Z4M, I don't feel that Audi need to offer a similar product to steal sales as neither of these two Beemers are the prettiest or the best to drive. I see the TT/S as quite capable of competing with the Z4M and bettering it on everything other than performance, the same applies to the S3 vs the 135i, it's a much better package.

And in any case both Audi if equipment with the same 2.0TFSi engines are easily tuned to offer similar performance to either.

[tazsura]

I would usually agree with this but in the case of the 135i and the Z4M, I don't feel that Audi need to offer a similar product to steal sales as neither of these two Beemers are the prettiest or the best to drive. I see the TT/S as quite capable of competing with the Z4M and bettering it on everything other than performance, the same applies to the S3 vs the 135i, it's a much better package.

And in any case both Audi if equipment with the same 2.0TFSi engines are easily tuned to offer similar performance to either.

Was just about to write pretty much the same thing!

S3 already has enough for the 135i. I still wonder just how much someone would be willing to pay if there ever was an RS3. The price of the S3 and 135i already makes me baulk!

Z4M...hmmm. It's actually a car that i wanted to be really good as i loved the old M Coupe. But this dissapoints in most aspects, other than the engine.

Taz :thumb:

[Toto89]

I think there is no need for so many RS cars like RS3 or TT RS...But S3 seems to be a bit 'weak' to me so the best i think would be an engine changing in S3 for a new inline 5 with ~300hp. If Quattro Gmbh doesn't develop TT RS (which i suppose) then we need something more serious engine in TT-S, not like 2.0 TFSI or something, so the mentioned V6 model seems to be good (maybe with turbocharging-same as on next S4 and above 350hp).

[Iceman]

I don't see the need for a RS3 or TT RS at all.
Why need every top of the range car need to be called "RS" (Renn Sport). ???
The best Audi could do is make the TTS like the Mk1 TT Quattro Sport.
And make the top of the range TT a 3.6 Quattro with 300 hp 3.6 VR6 FSI engine an all the luxury and sporty options availeble.

Hans.

[Iceman]

There are so many possibility's for TT engine's.
Say the TTS get the S3 2.0TFSI engine with 265-280 hp.
The TT 3.2 VR6 can be dumped or get a upgrade to either a 3.2 FSI with 250-265 hp or a 3.6 FSI with 280-300 hp.
The supposed TT-RS can get a 3.6 VR6 FSI with 280-300 hp, a 2.5 R5 TFSI with 330-375 hp, a 3.2 VR6 TFSI with 420-480 hp, or even a 3.6 VR6 TFSI with 475-540 hp.
But i doubt it will ever getting any more then 365-400 hp.
And when you look at all the possibility's a 3.2 VR6 TFSI is the most logical choise.
You can get by putting on a simple K03 turbo at leasted 320 hp and up to 425 hp with a K04 turbo out of it.
Beside this Audi have Nordschleife test data of turbo and bi-turbo charged VR6 engine's from the TT Mk1.
The only problem was that the TT Mk1 body could not handle the power.

Hans.

[Leadfoot]

I haven't a problem with what ever engine Audi throw in the car, all I want is the handling to be transformed in the same way as the RS4 did compared to the S4.

No big deal really, should only be a late night-er for the engineers. ;)

[RussianM3_dude]

I think Porsche will make sure that the RS TT will not be THAT good. Otherwise people will buy it as a "poor man's 911C4".

[Iceman]

I haven't a problem with what ever engine Audi throw in the car, all I want is the handling to be transformed in the same way as the RS4 did compared to the S4.

No big deal really, should only be a late night-er for the engineers. ;)
They only need to use the new Haldex XWD system and it will go like hell.

Hans.

[Rage]

Finished work today and as i was driving past my Audi dealer, i thought i'd stop in and see if they had any more info on when the RS5 is due (I have a deposit down).

Spoke to the sales rep responsible for RS/R8 sales and he's said the TTS will be available next year and will have a 4.2l engine (~350HP) and bucket seats (I asked specifically about the bucket seats!)

The RS5 will be out 2009. Nothing official, just relaying what he said. Could be well-informed, could be BS.

[Iceman]

A TT with a heavy 4.2 V8 FSI engine can be labled as BS.
The only way to get that in is with the B8 gearbox and lods and lots of engineroom modifications.
And i see no reason why Audi would do that, because you only get a Audi S5 with TT body.
And there is no point to do that.
It make a lot more sence to turbocharge the 3.2 VR6 engine instead.

Hans.

[Toto89]

But i doubt it will ever getting any more then 365-400 hp.
And when you look at all the possibility's a 3.2 VR6 TFSI is the most logical choise.
You can get by putting on a simple K03 turbo at leasted 320 hp and up to 425 hp with a K04 turbo out of it.
Beside this Audi have Nordschleife test data of turbo and bi-turbo charged VR6 engine's from the TT Mk1.
The only problem was that the TT Mk1 body could not handle the power.

Hans.

Exactly what i'd like the TT-S to be!:thumb: They could use the same engine in S4 as well. That engine is much better (i think) than a 4.2 V8, even with Valvelift...
The only thing i don't want is a 4 cylinder engine in a S car. 2.0TFSI is also weak for the S3 in my opinion.

[Toto89]

I think Porsche will make sure that the RS TT will not be THAT good. Otherwise people will buy it as a "poor man's 911C4".

"Poor man's 911"? Are you serious? A TT with such an engine ( i mean VR6 TFSI) would eat not only C4 but C4S as well for breakfast! But unfortunatelly there could be some truth in what you are saying...I'm also afraid that Porsche will have a say in what engine the TT-S gets.

[Iceman]

I'm not seeing it.
The A3 and TT with 3.2 VR6 engine are top of there range.
There is no way i accept a 2.0 R4 TFSI as a top of the range engine, no matter hoe much power it will have.
The only way is up, and that's a 3.2 VR6 TFSI and not a 2.0 R4 TFSI.

Hans.

[Sanjuro]

There is one advantage that the 4 could aside from the turbo torque curve advantage and that is weight of the car. The reason the TT2 is such a better car than it's siblings is purely on that basis using aluminuim in construction and so on.

My impressions of the 2.0t is that it's a nice car to drive thanks to that weight. Therefore to maximise the potential of the car the 4 pot might be just the thing to make sure the car stays as nimble and enjoyable. TT2 is a light car already - might not need much to make it a very fast one.

[Iceman]

With some tuning to the S3 engine you can get 330-400 hp.
But it's still a 4-pod with matching sound.
In that case i prefer a less nimble car with a 3.2 VR6 TFSI engine and matching sound.

Hans.

[Sanjuro]

With some tuning to the S3 engine you can get 330-400 hp.
But it's still a 4-pod with matching sound.
In that case i prefer a less nimble car with a 3.2 VR6 TFSI engine and matching sound.

Hans.

Then maybe the car for you is the A5 3.2 q s-line? It could be that the concept is to differentiate the 2 models more as there could be a level of substitution between the 2.

[Iceman]

Then maybe the car for you is the A5 3.2 q s-line? It could be that the concept is to differentiate the 2 models more as there could be a level of substitution between the 2.
in that case more a S5 4.2 V8 FSI 354 hp.
But i think the TT is better looking IMHO.

Hans.