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Erik
October 19th, 2007, 13:03
Nürburgring laptime: 7.33 min

:bow:


Hockenheim

1:10.0* -- 133.714 km/h – Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) *estimated
1:16.8 --- 121.875 km/h – BMW M5, 507 PS/1867 kg (sport auto 11/07)
1:18.4 --- 119.387 km/h - Irmscher Opel GT, 315 PS/1394 kg (sport auto 11/07)
1:18.5 --- 119.236 km/h - Mercedes CLS 63 AMG, 514 PS/1958 kg (sport auto 11/07)
1:21.0 --- 115.556 km/h - Audi A3 Sportback 3.2 quattro, 250 PS/1632 kg (sport auto 11/07)

Nurburgring: 7:33 --- 163.708 km/h

as fast as the Zonfa F and only a second slower than the CGT, the 530 bhp Porsche GT2 clearly demonstrates what is is capable of, a perfect handling and the highest limits for the road-going and most powerful 911 ever!


Hockenheim short track: 1:10.0* -- 133.714 km/h

time is only an estimation as not all the sectors were available for testting that day. But this time is abloutely realistic, a 2nd test will show if it is a low 10 or a high 9 at the end.

thsi would be faster than the Zonda F and nearly as fast as the CGT, Koenisgegg CCR or the TechArt GT street before.


0-200-0 km/h: 16.3 secs.

evenb w/o launch control is has a lot of traction and so lines up with the even more powerful LP640 and is faster than CLK DTM AMG or Ford GT


aerodynmaics:

cd=0.32
9 kg and 29 kg downforce at 200 km/h in front/rear

very well balanced, even though it produces so much downforce it reaches a top speed of 330 km/h, the aerodynmic setup also explains the perfect handling and stability at sppeds above 200 km/h


max. lat. accelewration: 1.35g

suspension works perfect, it shows absolutexl no obersteer and always alows a perfect control of the car in motion.

1.35g with Michelin Pilot Cup sport tyres is the same level as the CGT, Gallardo SL, F430


specs:
530 PS at 6,500 rpm
680 Nm at 4,500 rpm
3,600 ccm
147.2 PS/litre

Michelin Pilot Cup sport
235/35 ZR 19 and 325/30 ZR 19 in front/rear

380/350 mm ventilated ceramic disk brakes in front/rear

MSRP: 189,496 EUR

1497 kg
357 bhp/ton

0-100 km/h: 3.8 s
0-160 km/h: 7.7 s
0-200 km/h: 11.5 s

Vmax: 329 km/h


18m slalom: 72.6 km/h

36m slalom: 139 km/h

faster and so better handling than the CCR (138 km/h), Zonda F (137 km/h) Gallardo SL (136 km/h)


110m evasion test: 157 km/h

a perfect 10, as good handling and respodning as the CGT, even better than the GT street or LP640, only beaten by the Zonda F (159 km/h), the CCR (158 km/h) and 997 GT3 (158 km/h)


wet handling: 1:29.7

again, a perfect handling but due to turbo boost not as neutral as expected
LP 640 (1:29.2
Z06 (1:30.3)
997 Turbo (1:31.6)
599 GTB (1:31.8)


verdict: 78 out of 80 possible pts.

best result ever, the most powerful and best handling 911 ever opens anew chapter in history, best result ever in sport auto supertest, taking the lead on front of the CGT and GT3 RS (both 77 pts.), the LP650 (76), the Zonda F (75) and the CCR (74)

a perfect 10, a prefect super sportscar for the dialy driver, very reliable, easy to to control, offering a lot of fun


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Ruergard
October 19th, 2007, 13:11
Porsche has once again put a new standard in the Supercar territory, 7.33 around the Nürburgring with 530 hp is just amazing. No other word that that.. :bow:

LamboM
October 19th, 2007, 13:27
7:33? very good?
But how?
What was the superleggera time?
7:46 I think?

Ruergard
October 19th, 2007, 13:38
7:33? very good?
But how?
What was the superleggera time?
7:46 I think?

Yepp, 7:46.

Bingocaller
October 19th, 2007, 13:55
What is the CGT´s time around the ring for comparison?

Ruergard
October 19th, 2007, 14:16
Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.32 min
Porsche GTR 600 Gemballa ---------------------------- 7.32,52 min
Pagani Zonda F ----------------------------- 7.33 min
Porsche 997 GT2 ----------------------------------------- 7.33 min
Koenigsegg CCR --------------------------- 7.34 min ( Swedish power )
Porsche 997 TechArt GT street (630hp) -------------------- 7.39 min
Porsche Carrera GT ------------------------------------- 7.40 min (wet track)
Porsche 911 Techart GT (620hp) ---------------------- 7.43 min
Pagani Zonda S ----------------------------------------- 7.44 min
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera --------------------------- 7.46 min
Porsche 911 GT2 (462hp) ------------------------------ 7.46 min
Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 -------------------------------- 7.47 min
Porsche 996 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.47 min
Ferrari 599 GTB -----------------------------------------------7.47 min
Porsche 997 GT3 RS ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R-tire)
Porsche 997 GT3 ----------------------------------------- 7.48 min (R compound tires)
Corvette C6 Z06 ------------------------------------------ 7.49 min
Lamborghini Murciélago -------------------------------- 7.50 min
BMW M3 CSL -------------------------------------------- 7.50 min
Ford GT -------------------------------------------------- 7.52 min
Lamborghini Gallardo ----------------------------------- 7.52 min
Mercedes SLR ------------------------------------------- 7.52 min
Porsche 997 Turbo ---------------------------- 7.54 min (semi-R-tires)
Porsche 911 GT3 (2003) ------------------------------- 7.54 min
Mercedes CLK-DTM ------------------------------------- 7.54 min (R-tires)
Ferrari F430 ------------------------------------------- 7.55 min
Porsche 996 Turbo (420hp) ---------------------------- 7.56 min
Ferrari 360 CS ------------------------------------------- 7.56 min
BMW M6 AC Schnitz. Tensi. (552hp) --------------------------- 7.57 min (R-tires)


"Nurburgring: 7:33 --- 163.708 km/h

as fast as the Zonfa F and only a second slower than the CGT, the 530 bhp Porsche GT2 clearly demonstrates what is is capable of, a perfect handling and the highest limits for the road-going and most powerful 911 ever!


Hockenheim short track: 1:10.0* -- 133.714 km/h

time is only an estimation as not all the sectors were available for testting that day. But this time is abloutely realistic, a 2nd test will show if it is a low 10 or a high 9 at the end.

thsi would be faster than the Zonda F and nearly as fast as the CGT, Koenisgegg CCR or the TechArt GT street before.


0-200-0 km/h: 16.3 secs.

evenb w/o launch control is has a lot of traction and so lines up with the even more powerful LP640 and is faster than CLK DTM AMG or Ford GT


aerodynmaics:

cd=0.32
9 kg and 29 kg downforce at 200 km/h in front/rear

very well balanced, even though it produces so much downforce it reaches a top speed of 330 km/h, the aerodynmic setup also explains the perfect handling and stability at sppeds above 200 km/h


max. lat. accelewration: 1.35g

suspension works perfect, it shows absolutexl no obersteer and always alows a perfect control of the car in motion.

1.35g with Michelin Pilot Cup sport tyres is the same level as the CGT, Gallardo SL, F430


specs:
530 PS at 6,500 rpm
680 Nm at 4,500 rpm
3,600 ccm
147.2 PS/litre

Michelin Pilot Cup sport
235/35 ZR 19 and 325/30 ZR 19 in front/rear

380/350 mm ventilated ceramic disk brakes in front/rear

MSRP: 189,496 EUR

1497 kg
357 bhp/ton

0-100 km/h: 3.8 s
0-160 km/h: 7.7 s
0-200 km/h: 11.5 s

Vmax: 329 km/h


18m slalom: 72.6 km/h

36m slalom: 139 km/h

faster and so better handling than the CCR (138 km/h), Zonda F (137 km/h) Gallardo SL (136 km/h)


110m evasion test: 157 km/h

a perfect 10, as good handling and respodning as the CGT, even better than the GT street or LP640, only beaten by the Zonda F (159 km/h), the CCR (158 km/h) and 997 GT3 (158 km/h)


wet handling: 1:29.7

again, a perfect handling but due to turbo boost not as neutral as expected
LP 640 (1:29.2
Z06 (1:30.3)
997 Turbo (1:31.6)
599 GTB (1:31.8)


verdict: 78 out of 80 possible pts.

best result ever, the most powerful and best handling 911 ever opens anew chapter in history, best result ever in sport auto supertest, taking the lead on front of the CGT and GT3 RS (both 77 pts.), the LP650 (76), the Zonda F (75) and the CCR (74)

a perfect 10, a prefect super sportscar for the dialy driver, very reliable, easy to to control, offering a lot of fun"


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This really is one hell of a car..

Leadfoot
October 19th, 2007, 14:17
What is the CGT´s time around the ring for comparison?

I think it's 7:32 something. Which when you think about it, does make a mockery of everything I or anyone else has ever said about the engine being stuck out the back effecting the handling dynamics of the car.:doh:

Maybe I best stick to commenting on nice interiors and leave the handling aspects of cars to the professionals. :rolleyes:

Ignore everything I said about the new M3, clearly what do I know. ;)

KresoF1
October 19th, 2007, 14:25
Hey Leadie,

In the next issue of Sport Auto is Supertest of.... BMW M3!

Just a hint... Faster then RS4...

quattro Gmbh
October 19th, 2007, 14:37
amazing result..

let's see what scuderia can do, i read in wcf that f430 scuderia is faster than enzo around Fiorano.

Erik
October 19th, 2007, 14:42
In the next issue of Sport Auto is Supertest of.... BMW M3!
Just a hint... Faster then RS4...

8:03, we think, already posted here ;)

Leadfoot
October 19th, 2007, 15:23
Hey Leadie,

In the next issue of Sport Auto is Supertest of.... BMW M3!

Just a hint... Faster then RS4...

I hope you did read my opinion of the M3 after test driving it. A very impressive piece of kit and now don't doubt it will post a very good time but I still believe that the RS4 is the easier of the two to drive quickly. The M3 requires smooth inputs to get the best out of it, where as the RS4 can be grabbed by the scruff of the neck without getting you into trouble. But in normal driving the two are uncannily similar.

Leadfoot
October 19th, 2007, 15:51
8:03, we think, already posted here ;)

I don't doubt what you have been told but if true it just goes to prove that the time achieved at their hands for the R8 is laughable, the only time the M3 has ever posted a time close to the R8 and yet both are within 0.5s of each other to 150mph. Like I have already said the M3 is amazing but the equal of the R8 IT IS NOT. :nono:

When will the R8 be retested as clearly this is something which needs to be sorted.

HKS786
October 19th, 2007, 15:53
I hope you did read my opinion of the M3 after test driving it. A very impressive piece of kit and now don't doubt it will post a very good time but I still believe that the RS4 is the easier of the two to drive quickly. The M3 requires smooth inputs to get the best out of it, where as the RS4 can be grabbed by the scruff of the neck without getting you into trouble. But in normal driving the two are uncannily similar.

Yeah I liked your review. I just seen the MSN review, and while it's not very technical or filled with details about both cars features, I think it might briefly cover the main points quite well.

The only reasons they give for choosing the M3 are: Rearwheel Drive, Coupe design, Racing heritage. (VERY weak reasons)

They give the following for the RS4 though: Better gearbox, better steering, 4Wheel Drive.

:rs4addict

Edit:

Oh yeah and they said the M3 might have nicer engine/exhaust note but I guess this is up to your personal preferences. I'm just so happy to see the older RS4 Saloon keeping up with BMWs latest M3 Coupe (Some people say it's better than the M3!) Also, they make the point that the M3 has really just kept up with the RS4, it hasnt moved anything on!

Bingocaller
October 19th, 2007, 15:56
So in reality the GT2 is just as fast as the CGT - 1 sec is nothing round such a long track!

Damn that is one fast Porsche!

Speedou
October 19th, 2007, 16:40
We have to remember that the CGT is little bit like a Ferrari on the ring. I don't think that Scuderia will be too fast on there. Those are so low and hard cars that they work best on Formula tracks. But anyway GT2 is THE car right now!