New GTR uncovered with performance figures - must see! [Archive] - RS6.com

HKS786

October 16th, 2007, 19:12

Embargo breaks happen only too often, and this time around the honour befalls the upcoming Nissan GT-R. Up untill today, the only pictures we were able to show you were cleverly disguised prototypes in teaser shots and video games. MotorTrend (whether intentionally or not) have broken one of the biggest stories for the upcoming Tokyo Motor Show, Motor Authority was quick to react and posted the MotorTrend December front cover on their blog (see source link).

The front cover not only clearly displays the Nissan GT-R but also reveals a few vital statistics for the Porsche 911 Turbo competitor (there are speculations of the Nissan GT-R being able to lap the 'Ring in 7.38!). Starting with the Nissan GT-R's 0 – 60 time, an astonishing 3.5 seconds. A quarter mile should take no longer than 11.7 seconds and maybe most surprising the price... under USD 80,000, which is either way lower than the previously rumoured USD 94,000 for the flagship, or way higher than the USD 57,000 base model. Only time will tell how much Nissan will be charging US customers.

Next week we will know for sure whether the engine is indeed a turbocharged 3.8 liter V6 with Dual-Clutch gearbox and latest ATESSA all-wheel drive. Rumours are still that the Nissan GT-R will come in three guises, a 480hp base and V-Spec version while the top-of-the-line EVO version is expected to have 530hp.

HKS786

October 16th, 2007, 19:16

Wow it doesnt actually have a boy-racer look at all! I'm not 100% on styling but I'm around 90% sure. Look at the presence! Infact forget that, look at the performace figures, WOW !

Also, I just noticed they have a RS4 v M3 v C63 review. Should be interesting. They also drove the IS-F!

HKS786

October 16th, 2007, 19:19

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LamboM

October 16th, 2007, 22:27

Good looking car , different from the concept version.
And will take some getting used to.
Fast as well 0-60 in 3.5 sec?
Nice
What's the top speed?

RXBG

October 17th, 2007, 02:37

HKS786

October 17th, 2007, 09:39

Good looking car , different from the concept version.
And will take some getting used to.
Fast as well 0-60 in 3.5 sec?
Nice
What's the top speed?

192mph :applause:

Hey what happened to the pic in my first post, I'll put it up again

HKS786

October 17th, 2007, 09:40

ladies and gentlemen. it's fast. it's cheap. and it comes with your very own 1980's dashboard!

fast as all hell, it seems.

but i wouldn't get caught dead in one.

i'll be saving for the two extra cylinders as soon as i get my car.

Yeah I dont understand why the interior looks so cheap. Why couldnt they give it more of a flow instead of different section etc.

HKS786

October 17th, 2007, 09:49

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HKS786

October 17th, 2007, 09:52

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LamboM

October 17th, 2007, 11:32

ladies and gentlemen. it's fast. it's cheap. and it comes with your very own 1980's dashboard!

fast as all hell, it seems.

but i wouldn't get caught dead in one.

i'll be saving for the two extra cylinders as soon as i get my car.

Yeah clearly they've been to Ikea to get that intirior.
192MPH? it's very good!

Wait, you'll be getting an R8? Nice very Nice.
May I just ask why not a gallardo?
It's better.
If I were you , I'd be saving for a superleggera.

JavierNuvolari

October 17th, 2007, 13:10

I love it, love the performance and the interior as well. I have no problem at all with it. Yes the R8 is better looking...but I find it a bit grown up for me.

tazsura

October 17th, 2007, 13:20

Hmmm, worse than what i was expecting. I knew it wouldn't be classy, but thought it would be better than that...the front is horrible..and reminds me of Bernd Pischetsrieder's facial hair!

And the interior..well just look at it! How many buttons do they want to cram onto the steering wheel? This was one of the reasons why i didn't like the 350Z. Everything inside the car was just too "busy".

I'm dissapointed with this car in terms of looks. Perfomance looks to be fantastic however.

Taz :snow:

LamboM

October 17th, 2007, 13:24

RXBG

October 17th, 2007, 13:37

sorry guys. i'll believe the 80K USD for the top line model when i see it. it'll be more like 90K plus, without the premium the dealers will be charging.

i am most curious to see how livable this car will be on a daily basis. and this is important because a car that you cannot drive daily decreases its apparent value overall because you have to buy another car as a daily driver.

that being said, if the numbers are accurate it will have outstanding performance. but there is always an expense. and the expense will be the cheap interior. doesn't look much better than a Z's.

the exterior design is terrible imo. it is unique. but not my style at all.

i don't think this will be a very comfortable car. nissan sold a minority of track editions of the Z for that reason.

i like the DSG. but there is no business like showbusiness. i would not buy a top line GTR unless it had a god-honest manual.
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JavierNuvolari

October 17th, 2007, 13:46

i am most curious to see how livable this car will be on a daily basis. and this is important because a car that you cannot drive daily decreases its apparent value overall because you have to buy another car as a daily driver.

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That is a very important point you've made mate. And you're absolutely right about it...I might like it....but if this thing is completely undrivebale on a daily basis I'll rather have a 350Z.

tazsura

October 17th, 2007, 13:50

I like it as well.
I would choose it over the R8 as well.
(the superleggera over both :p )
It's only the intirior that's the problem , but let me qute clarkson for a sec:
"Noticing any of that stuff is like Noticing that the crocodile that's about to eat you is abit cross eyed"
(that clarkson , cracks me up :bow: :lovl: )

Yeh, i understand what your saying, but i don believe there is a need to compromise on the interior and put up with below par design just because it is a fantastic performance car. You can have both performance and good design. And i expect both from a car with a value of the GTR.

They really have no excuses Nissan, with the GTR. The car has had a very long gestation period and so an excuse for poor interior design design cannot be due to a lack of time. More like a lack of effort!

Taz :MTM:

mm1

October 17th, 2007, 14:02

I was waiting for the pictures of the car, but I must say they dissapoint me, everything is ok except the front of the car, it looks like it is choped on from another car.

Leadfoot

October 17th, 2007, 14:10

How best to describe the GTR's interior, well there is some elements of the design which I think are lovely and neat while others are tasteless. I like the seat but dislike the steering wheel, I like the lower centre console but hate the centre display unit, I like the main dials but despise the add-on look top section of the dash.

Clearly the man who designed this interior has a split personality.

LamboM

October 17th, 2007, 16:11

Exsacly on point leatfoot.
Though with one small change I don't like any of the center console , the rest is much like you.

I'd never buy this car , cause tazsura I'm totaly with you on that.
I wouldn't pick the R8 either cause I don't like it very much , just because it's
Only 80k.
I'd go for my ultimate dream, The LP640.
So if I'd get a gallardo that woldn't be a compromise , it'll be next to the Lp640.
Supercars are much like wifes , you compromise , you might pay a hevay price for the rest of your lifes.
Here is another qute from Clarkson:
"you don't buy supercars with your head ,you buy them with you heart because you love them"

+44 Dave

October 17th, 2007, 16:19

This car is going to be rediculously fast though. We can accept the cheap tacky interior as what do you expect from Nissan, just be lucky its a better interior than the micra...
This car will be in the price bracket of the RS4 and M3 but will blow both those out of the water in performance.
3.5seconds 0 - 60mph !!!!
And its got four seats...
Should be fantastic to drive, i'm just not sure who would really spend that much on a Nissan however fast it was...

Ruergard

October 17th, 2007, 19:01

It will be quick as hell, but when it comes to style. It miles away, from say a R8 and a 911.

RussianM3_dude

October 17th, 2007, 20:22

Oof! Interior is absolutely terrible (no excuse really) and exterior is not really that well designed... However I can see myself owning one, despite the fact that it's AWD.

Mori

October 17th, 2007, 21:03

Taking into account it should be twice as cheap as a 997TT, its a no-brainer. If its drivable on a daily basis.

If they bring it over here, it may very well be my next car. Screw the exterior (the rear is really nice though), I won't care about the interior much either if it has that kind of performance.

Leadfoot

October 17th, 2007, 22:18

Oof! Interior is absolutely terrible (no excuse really) and exterior is not really that well designed... However I can see myself owning one, despite the fact that it's AWD.

It's only AWD when the rwd part runs into problem.

Funny that.:lovl:

RussianM3_dude

October 17th, 2007, 22:30

Actually articles say it's 50/50 until 25mph but can go 98/2 if needed. So, most of the time it's AWD.

Leadfoot

October 17th, 2007, 22:31

Well there you go, it's different then the old ones.

Klint

October 17th, 2007, 22:43

Ugly duckling, but then it'd look good in Gunmetal.

192mph top speed? isn't Japan limited to 112mph? ;)

Leadfoot

October 17th, 2007, 23:22

It's amazing how similar the GTR nose looks to the new EVO X.

HKS786

October 18th, 2007, 00:20

It's amazing how similar the GTR nose looks to the new EVO X.

Oh yeah, I knew there was something familiar lol

RXBG

October 18th, 2007, 01:41

more i think about it i think it took nissan:

DSG
special gearing
special launch control programming for it's insane awd system

to get the 3.5 mark. for sales and publication purposes. note how it is only 5 mph faster in top speed than a 50+ hp less car that weighs about the same (R8).

and i maintain i don't think it's going to be a good daily driver. i just doubt it.

Tony Lam

October 18th, 2007, 03:51

I LIKE IT SO MUCH AND CAN'T WAIT TO GET ONE MYSELF BUT HOPE THAT THE PRICE WON'T BE TO HIGH FOR "NISSAN".:love2:

RXBG

October 18th, 2007, 14:37

apparently it laps the ring faster than a Z06 and 997 TT. holy cow. holy c o w.

this is one hell of a machine.

here is hoping that the V10 R8 is faster :)

Leadfoot

October 18th, 2007, 14:44

apparently it laps the ring faster than a Z06 and 997 TT. holy cow. holy c o w.

this is one hell of a machine.

here is hoping that the V10 R8 is faster :)

I think you need to research the un-official lap time of the R8v8 as I reckon you will be pleasantly surprised. ;)

It's nowhere near it's 8:04 achieved in the hands of SportAuto.:deal:

artur777

October 18th, 2007, 15:40

Leadfoot, what time are you talking about?

RXBG

October 18th, 2007, 15:54

Klint

October 18th, 2007, 17:57

Styling's very Koenigsegg, 350Z/G35 and R34 Skyline.

Leadfoot

October 18th, 2007, 23:26

official vs unofficial..... confusing to me. i just want to know the best published times for any given car. what good are secret times if they are not put out in the open?

yes. i'd like to know the R8's best time too.

The time I am talking about is the unofficial time at the hands of Audi. I was lead to believe that it's time was closer to 7:50 something, why at the hands of SportAuto it didn't achieve anything close to this is a mystery as every other test carried out found the lap speed of the R8 equal to that of the GT3 and 997tt, sure on the two quick sections of the ring it would lose time but nowhere near the 20seconds that officially is being stated.

Just look at the times achieved on the TOPGEAR track in the damp for an example of what it is capable of, 1:24.4 compared to the 1:28 of the CSL in similar conditions. Trust me when I say that the R8 though not the equal of the GTR is a lot closer than the figure suggest.;)

Z07

October 19th, 2007, 19:27

Z07

October 19th, 2007, 19:30

Actually articles say it's 50/50 until 25mph but can go 98/2 if needed. So, most of the time it's AWD.
In a corner, the default with the current ATTESA is 100% rear until they slip. This eliminates understeer.

Leadfoot

October 19th, 2007, 20:19

In a corner, the default with the current ATTESA is 100% rear until they slip. This eliminates understeer.

This is how I reckon the system worked but wasn't going to argue my point as I wasn't sure. So basically you are saying the system goes to rwd mode on entering a corner and only brings the front wheels into play when too much oversteer has occurred. Right.:0:

RussianM3_dude

October 19th, 2007, 21:29

Sounds like an AWD system I can live with.

Z07

October 19th, 2007, 21:29

http://www.motorauthority.com/images/Odds/2007/10/Motor_Trend/motor_trend_cover_dec.jpg

Z07

October 19th, 2007, 21:33

This is how I reckon the system worked but wasn't going to argue my point as I wasn't sure. So basically you are saying the system goes to rwd mode on entering a corner and only brings the front wheels into play when too much oversteer has occurred. Right.:0:
Yep. It's a little slow to react in the wet on the older R32 models but works perfectly in the dry. The Super-ATTESA on R33 V-Specs and R34s works 10 times faster and the new item will likely be faster still. The centre differential uses electro-viscous coupling, whereby an electric voltage changes the viscosity of the fluid.

Benman

October 19th, 2007, 22:10

I'm suprised about all this talk of cheap plasticy interiors with way too many nobs and buttons... never seems to deter Porsche fans. ;):jlol: :harass:

Ben:addict:

Leadfoot

October 19th, 2007, 22:36

I'm suprised about all this talk of cheap plasticy interiors with way too many nobs and buttons... never seems to deter Porsche fans. ;):jlol: :harass:

Ben:addict:

Ben it maybe look a little cheap but at least it's got style.;)

gdjohny

October 20th, 2007, 01:09

I dont like it.I preffer the r34 model (i wish i could afford one :(()if it wasnt for the missys i would swap my 2001 a6 2.5 tdi quattro for it.

Z07

October 20th, 2007, 13:40

I dont like it.I preffer the r34 model (i wish i could afford one :(()if it wasnt for the missys i would swap my 2001 a6 2.5 tdi quattro for it.
So swap your missus for an R34 and keep the A6 as a daily driver.:hihi:

Benman

October 22nd, 2007, 20:46

Ben it maybe look a little cheap but at least it's got style.;)

It certainly does, if you're still an 80's fan.

Don't get me wrong, Porsche is a great car manufacture, but the materials are hardly first rate (Audi's are much better) and then on top of it, the pricing is overinflated (but way under the insane pricing of Ferrari) and does not have very stylized interiors (read, dated). So I find the comments on how "bad" the GT-R's interior is to be kind of funny.

Ben:addict:

Leadfoot

October 22nd, 2007, 23:02

I understand totally where you are coming from with regards to Porsche, it's a bit like their exterior design, little has changed in God knows how many years. As for their controls like indicator stalks and switches, yeah they are made for cheaper plastics than is currently used in Audi cars but I reckon that is down to price based on scale, VAG can buy much better switches etc at similar prices as Porsche do for their cheaper ones. I reckon when they (Porsche) own VAG things will change.

As for the GT-R, well like I said there is elements of it which I really like but on a whole the interior doesn't gel in the same way as an Audi/BMW/Mercedes etc does, in fact Porsche are much better designed for that matter. Will this distract from the experience of driving the car, tricky that, I reckon the experience of driving it will still be there in all it's glory but on ownership after that honeymoon period has finished and it's performance experience has slightly dulled then the interior would trouble me.

It would require me taking to the track on a regular basis to remember why I was putting up with such an awfully designed interior. Maybe that is Nissan goal all a long.