The RS-cars of Nürburgring (my own pics)

[Erik]

Here are my pictures from Nürburgring last weekend (sunday-monday).
Met a lot of interesting people and had dinner besides the RS4/6 fan club from England at Pistenklause. If you're here please say hello!

RS6 Plus Avant

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-1.jpg

DTM Style RS4 and RS4 DTM Safety Car

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-2.jpg

RS4 DTM Safety Car and an M3 CSL Kelleners (390 hp), from the M Power CAr Collection (currently all M cars except the M1)

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-3.jpg

Silver IS such a nice color.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-4.jpg

Rockenfeller style...

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-5.jpg

The black one, there will be more and darker later... :hahahehe:

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-6.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-7.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-8.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-9.jpg

This is actually Ralf Kelleners, LeMans winner, and owenr of Kelleners Sport (BMW Tuner).

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-10.jpg

Suzuka Grey I presume.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-11.jpg

First but always, the original RS4.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-13.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-19.jpg

Ouch! Brand new M5 Touring meets Mr. Armco.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-14.jpg

Techart GT Street in the hands of Horts von Saurma at Sport Auto.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-15.jpg

Horts von Saurma in the MB CLK63 AMG Black Series.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-16.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-17.jpg

Note the M5 Touring behind.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-18.jpg


http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-20.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-21.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-22.jpg

The insides of the Techart.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-23.jpg

Getting’ ready to go!


http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-24.jpg

Such nice “garage”.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-25.jpg


http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-26.jpg

Off we go for another lap!

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-27.jpg

The CLK63 BS is a pretty mean 2-seater.


http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-28.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-29.jpg

Fan pictures of Horst von Saurma.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-30.jpg

RS4 and M3 CSL Kelleners, far right, and the castle at the top.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-31.jpg

My room with a view.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-32.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-33.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-34.jpg

KSA M Power Collection, currently all M cars except the M1…

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-35.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-37.jpg

Nice DIESEL…ehh!

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-36.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-38.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-39.jpg

Note the wheels are really black, not a factory option.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-40.jpg

The laser jammer, sorry garage opener, neatly installed.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-41.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-42.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-43.jpg

Over at Manthey Racing…

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-44.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-45.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-46.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-47.jpg

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-49.jpg

New M3 still so secret they have to black logos out?

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-50.jpg

Ferrari Dino…

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-51.jpg

1500 kms non-stop in 12 hrs…

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-52.jpg

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Serious brakes on an RS4 Avant.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-55.jpg

997TT with new exhaust.

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-56.jpg

Serious cookies in the Bentley stand at IAA

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-57.jpg

Guess who...

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-12.jpg

There's an RS6 hidden somewhere...revealed at noon.

[Benman]

Erik,

By any chance did you run into the Stoners from Arizona that weekend? They were also there. Was curious.

Ben

[Erik]

No, sorry I didn't meet any stoners but I met rene z from Las Vegas at IAA and a whole bunch of other people. :D

[Benman]

Ah well, maybe next time.:cheers:

Ben:addict:

[LU-RS6]

Maybe it would be interesting for members to post in advance when they will be present at the Ring.

[Erik]

Maybe it would be interesting for members to post in advance when they will be present at the Ring.

Yes I know, it's a very good idea but I did post but made no big news about it as it was a last minute choice.

[Dave]

Cool pics mate:)

[Leadfoot]

Class pictures Erik as always.

But the damaged M5 and LU-RS6's picture got me thinking. How many RS model cars do you or any of the group know to have been damaged on the ring compared to other brands.

You see I have a bet with a mate that proportional I reckon less RS cars have been damaged/wrote-off because of their quattro awd system than any other.

It only my opinion but I would love to know if I am right or wrong on this.;)

[Ricoloco]

Erik, still waiting for the Sales Brochure of the new RS6......do I really have to post more disgusting pics of my crippled beast...? :noshake:

[LU-RS6]

Class pictures Erik as always.

But the damaged M5 and LU-RS6's picture got me thinking. How many RS model cars do you or any of the group know to have been damaged on the ring compared to other brands.

You see I have a bet with a mate that proportional I reckon less RS cars have been damaged/wrote-off because of their quattro awd system than any other.

It only my opinion but I would love to know if I am right or wrong on this.;)



My bet indeed more RWD cars are being crashed on the Ring in comparison to AWD/Quattro's. Logically, I think.

IMO, and I think we audi drivers have to be honest about that, a RWD car such as the M3 is much more difficult to master, and thus a bigger challenge.
A Quattro will allow a mistake here and there...

[Leadfoot]

My bet indeed more RWD cars are being crashed on the Ring in comparison to AWD/Quattro's. Logically, I think.

IMO, and I think we audi drivers have to be honest about that, a RWD car such as the M3 is much more difficult to master, and thus a bigger challenge.
A Quattro will allow a mistake here and there...

This was my belief also but as the ring is one of those tracks which can catch you out and get you in to problem before you know it, I was wondering if even in these occasions that the Quattro's abilities allow it a better than normal chance of pulling you through.

This is what I reckon is true from the my experience in rallying but then again you are trying to get the car out of shape instead of keeping it neat. ;)

[Erik]

How many RS model cars do you or any of the group know to have been damaged on the ring compared to other brands.

Stupid bet ;)

First of all, the parking lot is full of Porsches and BMWs and not until lately has there been a lot of S and RS cars there. So if you've seen a lot of Porsches and BMWs crashed vs. other brands it might be because they're over represented overall. And don't forget Audi's ESP that goes in when you push the brakes.

The only thing that's safe to say is that don't ride a bike, the chances of ending up in the statistics is much much higher. Then rental cars I think... :rolleyes:

And yes, one last thing. We swedes think that English people must be highly over represented in accidents. True or not, I have no proof but a feeling. :hahahehe:


Have a look at this video, apparently the Citroen ZX is the safest bet ;)
Nice ride down Fuchsrohre... :hihi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_Zc4BGaZU

And then the idiot just drives straight out, a lot of cars will pass there at 200-250 km/h and need the ideal line. Just imagine what could have happened when the thought it was safe...
:noshake:

[LU-RS6]

[quote]So if you've seen a lot of Porsches and BMWs crashed vs. other brands it might be because they're over represented overall.

We swedes think that English people must be highly over represented in accidents. True or not, I have no proof but a feeling. :hahahehe:

It's only a faint guess, but I think there are also more English people @ the Ring in comparison to other nationalities except for Germans. :hahahehe:

But hey, I'm sharing your feeling. Regretfully I've seen quite a few doing some crazy manoevres on the NS. :nono:

[Leadfoot]

Stupid bet ;)

First of all, the parking lot is full of Porsches and BMWs and not until lately has there been a lot of S and RS cars there. So if you've seen a lot of Porsches and BMWs crashed vs. other brands it might be because they're over represented overall. And don't forget Audi's ESP that goes in when you push the brakes.

This is why I said proportionally compared to other brands not total numbers.;) I know Audi cars will be fewer on the ground than BMW and Porsche, but the idea is valid as we all here go on any how we all feel Quattro is safer and easier to control near to limits than other set-ups, namely rwd set-ups, I thought if proportionally fewer Audi Quattro cars crashed then maybe our opinion was valid.

As for Audi's ESP kicking back on when you pushed the brake, in all the years of driving Audis I never knew this. I knew that only recently ESP could be fully disengaged but thought this meant it was off until it was either turned on again or the car was turned off (engine) and restarted in SAFE MODE (ESP on). But as my recent Audis have been a 2004 S4 and 2007 Q7, both models couldn't be fully disengaged I can only plead ignorance.:looking:


The only thing that's safe to say is that don't ride a bike, the chances of ending up in the statistics is much much higher. Then rental cars I think... :rolleyes:

And yes, one last thing. We swedes think that English people must be highly over represented in accidents. True or not, I have no proof but a feeling. :hahahehe:


Have a look at this video, apparently the Citroen ZX is the safest bet ;)
Nice ride down Fuchsrohre... :hihi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_Zc4BGaZU

And then the idiot just drives straight out, a lot of cars will pass there at 200-250 km/h and need the ideal line. Just imagine what could have happened when the thought it was safe...
:noshake:

As for Bikes, well this is a subject I would prefer not to comment on as I have very strong opinions on bikes and bike safety. As for the English thing, well what can I say, I always thought you swedes were mad but clearly we hold the banner for this I suppose. :thumb:

[skiwi]

i wonder what mrs & mrs piech were talking to mr fiat about?????

[tazsura]

Great pics Erik!

Feel sorry for the M5 guy, never nice to see any car damaged like that. Must of hurt. :cry:

One question: The Black "Diesel" RS4...is that a forum member? I remember this car from the internet..but maybe not from this site.

I only ask as i'm after a "garage opener" too...and his install looked very good. Any word on which install he had?

Cheers

Taz :thumb:

[masa^^]

Greetings from Finland! I saw you Audi guys there that weekend, was it sunday when there were group of RS Audi´s driving race line very slowly on the ring..

[Erik]

i wonder what mrs & mrs piech were talking to mr fiat about?????

Nice recognition and conclusion skills there!


One question: The Black "Diesel" RS4...is that a forum member? I remember this car from the internet..but maybe not from this site.


Here he is. Nice guy! :thumb:
http://www.rs6.com/forum/member.php?u=5522
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?p=107504#post107504

[MR USER]

I only ask as i'm after a "garage opener" too...and his install looked very good. Any word on which install he had?

Cheers

Taz :thumb:

I would love one too... my garage has some frequency that is hard to get... that is why I would need a professional opener installed!

[jonas21]

Erik, still waiting for the Sales Brochure of the new RS6......do I really have to post more disgusting pics of my crippled beast...? :noshake:

hey...why not scan it and publish it? I guess alot of people here would love to take a peek on it.

[Erik]

hey...why not scan it and publish it? I guess alot of people here would love to take a peek on it.

Time, time and time...I am really busy at the moment and next week I'm "out of office" again.

[tazsura]

Nice recognition and conclusion skills there!



Here he is. Nice guy! :thumb:
http://www.rs6.com/forum/member.php?u=5522
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?p=107504#post107504

Thanks Erik :thumb:

PM sent. I knew i recognised this car from somewhere...it was RS246.com :doh:

Taz :bow: :bow:

[Kev.S]

The sprint blue RS4 is from 10 miles just up the road from me. Guy who owns it can be found on RS246.com

[Finalmix]

awesome pics

[Kaizu]

Over at Manthey Racing…

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Ring-2007-44.jpg



Thanks for the pic! We so miss that car! :love: Good to see it's in good company ;)

I had to left it to Manthey because the stock clutch couldn't handle the power anymore. They will also add a LSD so it should be great! :mech: :thumb:

Erik, I know you have a lot of contacts. So would anyone in Sweden be interested in these kind of rare and light Techart 3-piece 18" wheels for the 996TT/C4S:

http://www.tavakka.com/turbo/wheels/DSC06181%20(Large).JPG

Contact me kaizu@carfreaks.net for more info, willing to let them go cheap.

Sorry for the Offtopic :doh:

[Duma]

Thanx for pics and report :thumb:

[Erik]

Official now:



TechArt GTstreet



7.39 Minuten Nordschleife



http://www.sportauto-online.de/aktuell_U_sport/on-line/hxcms_article_507063_14469.hbs

[7:53 RS6]

Great pics Erik!

Feel sorry for the M5 guy, never nice to see any car damaged like that. Must of hurt. :cry:

One question: The Black "Diesel" RS4...is that a forum member? I remember this car from the internet..but maybe not from this site.

I only ask as i'm after a "garage opener" too...and his install looked very good. Any word on which install he had?

Cheers

Taz :thumb:

Well how strange it may seems but on the ring its so very common to see all kinds of crashed cars so after some time there one hardly rise an eyebrown.

All kind of cars go off regardless AWD, front or rear. They land on the most strange places some time, you cant belive how they even got there flying over amcros way in the woods. One thing i have lernt over the yers on the ring, one should never say...how the fuck did that smuck do to land in that tree top.....the reason one never should say this is due to the next split second it might be me sitting in a tree top woundering how the fuck i could mange to land my car 50 meter off track...in a tree top
Its sad to say its almost the same whit damaged peopel smashed out on track, broken bones and blood all over. Often helicopters land on track picking up bike riders on a stretch carrier, i seen and been on the ring when sevral have died over the years, still i go there, faster than before, its a strange place.:confused:

Many times i been close to run over bikers laying flat on the track, many times peopel i know have done the same, but even closer to run them over, so they had to turn the car in to mr AMCRO and smash the car to not hit the biker on track.
In many ways ring is love, but in many ways mad to be there:confused:

[Leadfoot]

Well how strange it may seems but on the ring its so very common to see all kinds of crashed cars so after some time there one hardly rise an eyebrown.

All kind of cars go off regardless AWD, front or rear. They land on the most strange places some time, you cant belive how they even got there flying over amcros way in the woods. One thing i have lernt over the yers on the ring, one should never say...how the fuck did that smuck do to land in that tree top.....the reason one never should say this is due to the next split second it might be me sitting in a tree top woundering how the fuck i could mange to land my car 50 meter off track...in a tree top
Its sad to say its almost the same whit damaged peopel smashed out on track, broken bones and blood all over. Often helicopters land on track picking up bike riders on a stretch carrier, i seen and been on the ring when sevral have died over the years, still i go there, faster than before, its a strange place.:confused:

Many times i been close to run over bikers laying flat on the track, many times peopel i know have done the same, but even closer to run them over, so they had to turn the car in to mr AMCRO and smash the car to not hit the biker on track.
In many ways ring is love, but in many ways mad to be there:confused:

This may sound a bit anti-bikest, but why not close this track from use by bikers?

On the few bikers I know who had rode on the ring comment on how bumpy it is and that to stay on is as much a problem as anything when the speed increases. It amazing me that the German authorities allow not only the continued use on the ring by bikes but that the combination of the two, bikes and cars to be allow on together. When you think about it even farther than this, why do they allow such a wide range of capabilities of drivers and cars to be allowed on at the same time.

If you look a the history of the Le Mans and ALMS series you will see that even with professional and semi-pro drivers, the wide ranging capabilities of cars/drivers have resulted in numerous accidents that were caused solely because of this variation.

Don't get me wrong here, I love the fact that there is such a track that is open to the public in such a time but you can also see that such openness could lead to it's very closure.

[LU-RS6]

Regarding the Ring the only conclusion you can make is:


There are no winners, only losers.

[7:53 RS6]

At times they accualy dont let bikes out. Kind off if its been wet and drying up, well then the bikes go out, and often they crash in numbers, they the ring use their loud spekers on the parking....no bikers for lets say 30min or so, only cars. Then it dry up and bikes is let out again.

Nowdays i try to not drive the touristfharen so much as there are to much peopel on track so its no fun anyway depending on speed well one then nead to brake and overtake all time.

There are trackdays like RMA or Sport Auto, then its fine, few cars on track and NO bikers or touristbusses etc.

[F1 Dad]

Great photos. Ferrari looks a little out of place.