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Ruergard
July 25th, 2007, 19:16
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The M Power Strikes Back

How would you define the role of the M3 in the BMW M range?

The M3 stands for our philosophy. It is the best representation of the M character, combining the feeling of a racecar with that of a normal street car. We concentrate on what we call "concept harmony," by which we mean that we look at the car as a whole. This is what separates us from everyone else.

How difficult has it been to replace the old inline-6 engine with a V8?

[I]It was not so easy. The six-cylinder is the traditional engine for an M3. But the old engine had reached its limits. We had to develop an all-new engine and it made sense to design a V8. For fans of the six-cylinder engine, we have the M Coupe. This is our entry-level M model.

Will there be a new version of the lightweight M3 CSL?

We built the last M3 CSL to test how many euros customers are willing to pay for less weight. For 20 years, they've learnt to pay for more power, not less weight. The reaction to the CSL was very positive and you will already see in the new M3 that we've spent a lot of money bringing down the weight.

The last M3 CSL was very successful and fun to drive. From now on, there will always be a CSL version of the M3.

The M3 has grown up, both in terms of size and price. Is there room for a smaller, entry-level M car, based around the new 1 Series coupe available in Europe?
Theoretically, yes. A 1 Series coupe would be a good base for such a car, but there has been no decision yet.

It is true that the M3 has grown over several generations and the latest car is a similar length to an old 5 Series. But we also have the M Coupe for those who want a small car that concentrates on driving fun.

How do you decide which engine to develop for each car?

We're looking for the best performance for the type of car. For the M5 and M6 we use a V10, and for the M3 we use a V8. If you only develop one engine for all your cars, then you cannot have the perfect car. If the engine in the smaller car is too big, you will not have the right harmony.

What are your main targets when developing a new model?
We concentrate on several targets — high revs, lower fuel consumption. There are lots of targets but our main target is that the car must be fun to drive. Raw horsepower is not as important as how agile the car is and how the driver feels.

The power-to-weight figure is the most important figure — more horsepower and lower weight equals more agility.

Will we see alternative engine technologies in the future, such as diesel?
When a diesel is able to achieve high revs, why not use it? But for now it's not possible. We need that special, high-revving character in an M engine. It's not enough just to increase the boost pressure [of the turbo]. We need to change the character of the car.

What about a hybrid?

We already have a brake-energy regeneration system in the new M3, but it's not our target to put 100 kilograms [220 pounds] of batteries in our car. We need much smarter hybrid technology.

Or turbocharging?

Maybe in the future. In 2011, the F1 racing regulations could change to introduce turbocharging. If we were able to bring our character together with a turbo engine, then why not? Formula 1 is very important for us; BMW M's heritage is in motorsport. Changes in the F1 regulations might be good for us. If the change fits with the M character, it could be a solution. The most important thing for the customer is to have this special character.

Or hydrogen?

Maybe in 15 years time. It's important to remember that the car is only 100 years old and technology moves very fast. The new M3 engine has 17 percent more horsepower than the old, but it has 7 percent less weight and 8 percent lower fuel consumption. This is one of the most efficient V8s on the market.

What do you see as the key rivals for the M cars?

The characters of our rivals' cars are so different that customers can find the right car for them. The Porsche is a Porsche — very successful and fun to drive. And when people think of Porsche they think of the 911 — a modern-day Beetle.

(laughs)

Audi Quattro Gmbh uses front- or four-wheel drive, and so the handling is quite different. It's a good solution if you live in the mountains. Mercedes AMG uses a relatively low-revving big-block engine and an automatic gearbox. Every car is different.


AMG has recently started to offer a limited run of tuned cars called Black Series. Can we expect a similar range from BMW?

This is not our philosophy. The Black Series is a way of trying to change the character of the cars, but we wouldn't do this because we have a clear idea of what our cars need to be. We have a personalization program — Individual — which caters to owners with special tastes, but these changes would never affect the driving characteristics of an M car.

Audi recently introduced the R8 to much acclaim. Will BMW build a supercar?

That's a very difficult question to answer. A car like the Porsche Carrera GT could reflect our character, but the Carrera GT was not a commercial success. Below this supercar level, anything we could offer would just be on a level with the M3 or M6.

We could build a car that used the technical aspects of the M3 or M6 but clothe it in a new body, but such a car would be more expensive and no more fun to drive. That is the reason why we're hesitant to build such a car, although as an engineer I'd love to do it.

If you build a €1 million supercar, no one will ever have the chance to see it. For us it's better to make an M3 or M6, where the price is OK.

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AndyBG
July 25th, 2007, 21:27
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What do you see as the key rivals for the M cars?

The characters of our rivals' cars are so different that customers can find the right car for them. The Porsche is a Porsche — very successful and fun to drive. And when people think of Porsche they think of the 911 — a modern-day Beetle.

(laughs)

Audi Quattro Gmbh uses front- or four-wheel drive, and so the handling is quite different. It's a good solution if you live in the mountains.

:harass: :hihi: :D :hihi:

Leadfoot
July 25th, 2007, 22:13
The M Power Strikes Back

How do you decide which engine to develop for each car?

We're looking for the best performance for the type of car. For the M5 and M6 we use a V10, and for the M3 we use a V8. If you only develop one engine for all your cars, then you cannot have the perfect car. If the engine in the smaller car is too big, you will not have the right harmony.


Do you think this is, a dig at AMG or what.:hihi:



Or turbocharging?

Maybe in the future. In 2011, the F1 racing regulations could change to introduce turbocharging. If we were able to bring our character together with a turbo engine, then why not? Formula 1 is very important for us; BMW M's heritage is in motorsport. Changes in the F1 regulations might be good for us. If the change fits with the M character, it could be a solution. The most important thing for the customer is to have this special character.


This is a hint that to match the likes of Audi they will need to look in this direction.;)



What do you see as the key rivals for the M cars?

The characters of our rivals' cars are so different that customers can find the right car for them. The Porsche is a Porsche — very successful and fun to drive. And when people think of Porsche they think of the 911 — a modern-day Beetle.

(laughs)

Audi Quattro Gmbh uses front- or four-wheel drive, and so the handling is quite different. It's a good solution if you live in the mountains. Mercedes AMG uses a relatively low-revving big-block engine and an automatic gearbox. Every car is different.


I know he's the head of BMW M but he does think very highly of his products to dismiss the competition so flippantly, don't you think.



AMG has recently started to offer a limited run of tuned cars called Black Series. Can we expect a similar range from BMW?

This is not our philosophy. The Black Series is a way of trying to change the character of the cars, but we wouldn't do this because we have a clear idea of what our cars need to be. We have a personalization program — Individual — which caters to owners with special tastes, but these changes would never affect the driving characteristics of an M car.


Mercedes Black series is similar to the CSL version of the M3 and up and coming M models, so actually this is exactly what the CSL does to an M3, change the very character of the driving experience.:doh:



Audi recently introduced the R8 to much acclaim. Will BMW build a supercar?

That's a very difficult question to answer. A car like the Porsche Carrera GT could reflect our character, but the Carrera GT was not a commercial success. Below this supercar level, anything we could offer would just be on a level with the M3 or M6.

We could build a car that used the technical aspects of the M3 or M6 but clothe it in a new body, but such a car would be more expensive and no more fun to drive. That is the reason why we're hesitant to build such a car, although as an engineer I'd love to do it.



Firstly, the Carrera GT wasn't a success, compared to what. It's the most success selling Hyper car ever. And I very much doubt that BMW will not try to make it's own equivalent version of the R8, Mercedes is though to be truthful BMW hasn't had much success in this sector come to think of it.:hihi:

Better leave that to the people how know best.:D

Audihead
July 26th, 2007, 02:29
Cocky little bastard isn't he.:hihi:

Audiphile
August 5th, 2007, 06:36
Now you can understand why BMW trolls act the way they do. They believe the propaganda they get from their fuhrer, BMW. No thought, just following the line.

BMW is blinded by its own success and acts as if Audi and MB can be simply dismissed in the marketplace. The fall will be a big thunk if they are not careful. Audi is methodical in its onslaught as never before in its 100 plus year history. To me through reading many interviews from BMW executives, whether it is their CEO, this guy, or even their head of Australian operations, they seem a bit nervous. I mean if I was seeing the upcoming RS5 and RS6 passing by the M3 and M5, then yeah I would think twice if I were him.

Quattro only for the mountains?:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: What a moron!:doh:

AudiSuperDriver
August 5th, 2007, 11:08
"if you live in the mountains":)))) i think his brain is off and he is using his last neuron for the locomotion action:))))what a retarded bastard...but guys did you heard what he said in the last months the BMW boss from Germany about BMW cars?!He said "YOU HAVE TO BE COOL ENOUGH TO BUY A BMWM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FACE FOR A BMW DON'T BUY IT":))))Jesus Christ those idiots are thinking about BMW to be the best car in the world...Porsche,Ferrari,Lamborghini,Bugatti,Audi.. .what's that?:)))That's how those idiots from BMW thinkin...yeahhh right...:lovl: :brag: :harass:

Phage
August 5th, 2007, 21:32
I don't really remember in which cup it was where they raced the A4's with Quattro. But i do remember they got extra weight penalty for the fact it made them to fast for the competition.
How about those mountains. :D


This is not our philosophy. The Black Series is a way of trying to change the character of the cars, but we wouldn't do this because we have a clear idea of what our cars need to be. We have a personalization program — Individual — which caters to owners with special tastes, but these changes would never affect the driving characteristics of an M car.


So the Black Series cars don't really show much resemblance to the CSL's both being lighter and more track orientated cars?:vhmmm:

Leadfoot
August 5th, 2007, 23:05
You know, with the kind of comments that the Head of M-Division comes out with it's not surprising that the people that buy their cars come out with the same BS.

AudiSuperDriver
August 6th, 2007, 09:27
sorry for being such an ass but you're right...bmw drivers are thinkin that are God on the roads because they have an bmw and bmw is "the best" in their stupid brains... by the way, i read a test in my local Supercar magazine with RS4 Avant vs M5 Touring and the winner was RS4 Avant (they said is the best family/race avant in thw world) and about the M5...his brakes were at their limits pushing the car further to the non braking perfect limits and he couldn't approach to the RS4 when driving on the corners...RS4 was too fast for it...sweet, want a photoshoot for that article?!:P