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TaTaPiRaTa
June 8th, 2007, 17:17
Dear All!

I think climate goes hotter, so I need to cool my beast.
Cheapest and safest way is to cut vents in the hood.

Can anybody pls tell me their experience with that, maybe some photos of MTM ones or other solution.

thanks

Benman
June 8th, 2007, 17:33
Your best bet is to PM Mr. Balsen...:cheers:

Ben:addict:

parkertseng
June 9th, 2007, 13:24
Yeah! I am so interested at the issue too! Any one who done with MTM vent? A picture is more than a thousand words! Does Mr. Balsen one of the member in the forum? Thanks!

HeadShot
June 9th, 2007, 20:57
I just ordered a second hood from ebay.de and when i gets here i'll start a hood vent mod. Will take pics along the way and should have a detailed post on the experience in a few months.
Important things to consider - water control if your car is sitting in the rain. Some may say it would be o.k.. i like to minimize risk.

Also you weaken the structure of the hood when it is cut. It is said it may fold up enough to unlatch and blow back at speed. I would definately recomend hood pins as part of the hood vent mod.

I have been looking at alot of hood vent pics - champion racing etc. I would go with vents in the location they used as i'm sure they did all the testing for the best location to draw heat. Also if you remove the liner inside the hood (very easy to do) you will see existing bracing that you may want to avoid cutting. This will affect the position of any vents but i think that still puts you in the best position.

Give me a month or two and i'll post my work / results.
:mech:

Oh yeah... some cutting tips... tape off the hood with a good amount of painters tape around the cut area to avoid ripping up the hood. I have heard a jigsaw works well.
remember that as you cut (grinder or saw) that metal particles will be falling into the engine bay. Either remove the hood or cover the bay with a sheet or tarp to catch the crap - save the motor.
I would cut slightly smaller and file up to fit... just my preference.

enjoy.

TaTaPiRaTa
June 12th, 2007, 08:31
I heard MTM was testing their vents solution in wind tunnel and they got 10 deg lower oil temp.

Anyone has that solution ?

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.php?nav=3&FZID=RS6331Q&Kitnum=M-RS6MHEK

:rs6kiss:

scottmandu
June 12th, 2007, 14:16
I just ordered a second hood from ebay.de and when i gets here i'll start a hood vent mod. Will take pics along the way and should have a detailed post on the experience in a few months

Why get one from ebay.de? Frieght ought to be very expensive, and last I check cost on a new one was less than 500 bucks.

Mr Balsen
June 12th, 2007, 16:03
I heard MTM was testing their vents solution in wind tunnel and they got 10 deg lower oil temp.

Anyone has that solution ?

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.php?nav=3&FZID=RS6331Q&Kitnum=M-RS6MHEK

:rs6kiss:

This is correct. 10 degrees Celsius is the minimun gain on oli temperature. It is more as you go faster ! ! !

I know one french car which has the MTM solution. The customer should provide me feedback in the near futur.

But if you look at all the sport cars currently available, They all have 'holes' in the hood to extract the heat. From the Ferrari F599, to the Aston Martin, and the Corvette, and so on....

The Audi RS6 Engine if it was propery cooled will be 20% more powerfull. But like its ancestor the RS2, the engine bay is becoming an heat bath very quickly.

Frederic

HeadShot
June 16th, 2007, 06:50
I was picking up a set of Recaro's and the hood kinda got thrown into the deal - so shipping was already covered. I'm surprised that i could have got one for $500 new. - good to know.
Still i think i made out o.k and seats will be sick... U.S seats kill my back with all the body movement in the corners.

parkertseng
June 16th, 2007, 15:29
when will you start the hood vent conversion? can you post some vent pictures?thanks!

HeadShot
June 18th, 2007, 20:27
Herea a few different hood vent styles to give ya some ideas. Remember the bracing under the hood is a factor on placement / size. I'm still waiting on my hood to arrive... could be another month or so ...

aghhhhh.. i hate the waiting!

parkertseng
June 19th, 2007, 01:22
Can you post the link form Germany Ebay where you order the hood? Have you consider to mount the MTM vent on the hood? That will be easier and straight foward without lots of consideration, they may already considered. Just follow the installation guide!

HeadShot
June 19th, 2007, 03:47
Scottmandu said that the hood from the dealer was less than $500 bucks. That sounds like a great price without the hassel of getting it shipped and dealing with someone you don't know. I had to translate alot of german to get the deal i did. Anyway.. just keep looking on www.ebay.de (http://www.ebay.de) if you really want to go that way - RS6 stuff. You should see i hood come up sometime... or if the seller is moving other parts like bumpers / seats etc. Just ask him.. he will probably have a hood or can get one.. thats how i got mine with the seats.
But try the dealer first.. and let me know what they say. Remember my stuff isn't here yet and may never turn up... it's a risk.

The MTM vents would be easy your right... maybe under mount without the lip around them. But i have a style in mind that i like and it's fun to see if i can pull it off so everyone on board approves. Then maybe i'll rebuild the front bumper.... Big plans there hee,hee!!
Good luck.

RS6-4dr911
June 19th, 2007, 03:59
I like the ones on the M6 or the RS6 best - the MTM ones don't do it for me. The ones on the RS6 would be better if the vents were aligned with the side to side line of the car, not on the slant that they are (make sense?)

Mr Balsen
June 19th, 2007, 05:54
The hood vents from Aston Martin are also very good. Same for the ones from Ford Escort Cosworth...

Frederic

TaTaPiRaTa
June 20th, 2007, 22:58
This is correct. 10 degrees Celsius is the minimun gain on oli temperature. It is more as you go faster ! ! !

I know one french car which has the MTM solution. The customer should provide me feedback in the near futur.

But if you look at all the sport cars currently available, They all have 'holes' in the hood to extract the heat. From the Ferrari F599, to the Aston Martin, and the Corvette, and so on....

The Audi RS6 Engine if it was propery cooled will be 20% more powerfull. But like its ancestor the RS2, the engine bay is becoming an heat bath very quickly.

Frederic

Great!

But how to do it without spending big bucks for MTM kit?

Any more ideas, pictures, kits....
thx

Benman
June 20th, 2007, 23:07
Great!

But how to do it without spending big bucks for MTM kit?

Any more ideas, pictures, kits....
thx


Well... this way is free: http://www.rs6.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3994&d=1152136855

:D

Ben:addict:

Mr Balsen
June 20th, 2007, 23:09
Check the link below:

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2006/SQ132AileronCapot/index.php

This is the hood vents I did on my Sport Quattro, exactly like it was 20 years ago. This is also very very efficient as it was used in Groupe B Rallye. And the grill are made from material for fire place, exactly like it was done at Audi Sport. Impossible to be cheaper...

Frederic

Benman
June 20th, 2007, 23:15
Impossible to be cheaper...

Frederic

Impossible? I don't know... my way seems cheaper. But your way definately has a more polished look. ;)

Ben:addict:

LU-RS6
June 20th, 2007, 23:54
Actually I'd love to have the mtm kit but it doesn't really look appealing...
Sportec mod is too expensive and I haven't got a clue about the efficiency.

The champion RS6 look is the best I think.


I find it disturbing that engine heat is swirling around 120° when you are really hitting it hard, or driving high speeds continuously.

TaTaPiRaTa
July 4th, 2007, 07:13
The champion RS6 look is the best I think.


I find it disturbing that engine heat is swirling around 120° when you are really hitting it hard, or driving high speeds continuously.

Me too :(

Does anybody know if Champion would sell their solution somehow?

I'm still hoping somebody has pictures of actual RS6 kit from MTM

:addict:

TaTaPiRaTa
July 4th, 2007, 07:14
Check the link below:

http://www.mtm-france.com/reportages/2006/SQ132AileronCapot/index.php

This is the hood vents I did on my Sport Quattro, exactly like it was 20 years ago. This is also very very efficient as it was used in Groupe B Rallye. And the grill are made from material for fire place, exactly like it was done at Audi Sport. Impossible to be cheaper...

Frederic

Thanks!

But I hoped you have actual MTM kit to be able to see more photos.
:rs6kiss:

LU-RS6
July 4th, 2007, 07:58
Thanks!

But I hoped you have actual MTM kit to be able to see more photos.
:rs6kiss:


http://www.mtm-france.com/mtm_allemagne/mtm_rs6_clubsport.jpg

ott
July 5th, 2007, 22:42
One example, how RS6 hood vents could be done:

http://kingpool.mailer.ee/tqhq/Eurotrip2007/DSC00063.JPG

http://kingpool.mailer.ee/tqhq/Eurotrip2007/DSC00064.JPG

LU-RS6
July 5th, 2007, 22:46
Nice :bigeyes:

EATRICE
July 6th, 2007, 17:08
I'm also a fan of the Champion Racing vents. So I called Champion Motorsports to ask for more info. They told me that I would have to talk to the racing group.

Since they are probably too busy to handle phone calls, I was thinking it would be easiest for one of us to catch them at a race. Below is their schedule, is anyone going to any of these events?

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 231pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=307 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 62pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 2998" width=82><COL style="WIDTH: 169pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 8228" width=225><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 62pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" width=82 height=17>July</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 169pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" width=225>New England Grand Prix (http://www.limerock.com/events_alms.htm)</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17 x:num="39240">7-Jun</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Lakeville, CT, US</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>3PM EDT</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>July</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver">Acura Sports Car Challenge (http://www.midohio.com/)</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>20-22</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver">Lexington, OH, US</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>3:30PM EDT</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>August</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Generac 500 at Road America (http://www.roadamerica.com/)</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17 x:num="39336">11-Sep</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Elkhart Lake, WI, US</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>4PM CDT</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>August</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver">Grand Prix of Mosport (http://www.mosport.com/)</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>24-26</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver">Bowmanville, ON, CA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>3PM EDT</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>Aug 30 -</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Detroit Belle Isle Grand Prix</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17 x:num="39326">1-Sep</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Detroit, MI, US</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>2PM EDT</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>October</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver">Petit Le Mans (http://www.roadatlanta.com/)</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17 x:num="39119">6-Feb</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver">Braselton, GA, US</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver" height=17>11:40Am EDT</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: silver"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>October</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Monterey Sports Car Championships (http://www.laguna-seca.com/)</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>18-20</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">Salinas, CA, US</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white" height=17>2:45PM PDT</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white"> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

TaTaPiRaTa
July 10th, 2007, 22:39
One example, how RS6 hood vents could be done:

http://kingpool.mailer.ee/tqhq/Eurotrip2007/DSC00063.JPG

http://kingpool.mailer.ee/tqhq/Eurotrip2007/DSC00064.JPG

GREAT, but how it is done?

TaTaPiRaTa
August 15th, 2007, 10:16
Can anybody provide any more pics?

goran
August 31st, 2007, 06:37
Here's the info and pics on the MTM hood kit. it is not cheap ... and it lets in the rain??Maybe there's a way to seal it from the top for everyday driving ....

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.php?nav=3&FZID=RS6331Q&Kitnum=M-RS6MHEK

RS6-4dr911
September 15th, 2007, 21:56
Headshot, whatever happened with your home-made hood vent project??:mech:

And what is the name of the tuner that made the vents on the BMW pic's that you posted as examples? Those looked pretty good to me and maybe they could be adapted to ours?

TaTaPiRaTa
September 20th, 2007, 22:49
Anyone with pics from the bottom of the hood (MTM kit) ?

RS6 POWER
November 27th, 2007, 17:34
I am going to purchase the MTM Hood vents...I will post some pics when I do the install...should I paint them red or leave them carbon???

DuckWingDuck
November 27th, 2007, 20:54
def. carbon!!

RS6 POWER
November 28th, 2007, 12:33
I am going to have to paint them...they are not carbon as per Hoppen's response!!! :(

parkertseng
December 1st, 2007, 05:56
i am very interested at the hood vent as well, since there is no making the vent like mtm did so i guess this will be our only choice, few question about the vent from mtm, is it made of carbon fiber? how about draining function in rainy days. can u post more pictures when u got your, RS6 POWER?

RS6 POWER
December 1st, 2007, 14:40
i am very interested at the hood vent as well, since there is no making the vent like mtm did so i guess this will be our only choice, few question about the vent from mtm, is it made of carbon fiber? how about draining function in rainy days. can u post more pictures when u got your, RS6 POWER?
They are not carbon my friend, as soon as I do the istall I will post some pictures!!!

wakejumper92
December 3rd, 2007, 22:36
I think a large muscle car hood scoop would look awesome on an RS6 because it would be a blend of american muscle and german engineering. Then again, it could turn out to look terrible. Anybody seen this? At minimum it would be funny.