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moldowan
April 5th, 2007, 08:27
http://www.caranddriver.com/carvideos/?bcpid=627028702&bclid=686997774&bctid=716053172

Thrives
April 5th, 2007, 08:32
I like that :addict:

Nice deep and growly sound ...

Does it not sound as if he/she is shifting manually? Perhaps with flap pads?

Erik
April 5th, 2007, 08:34
I could take it just like that.

White bottom, black top.

skiwi
April 5th, 2007, 09:05
it handles very well, and certainly sounds like a v10. man it is fast!

rs-6
April 5th, 2007, 09:53
I could take it just like that.

White bottom, black top.

I like the 'f1-flag' motive ;)

jonas21
April 5th, 2007, 10:11
wow, nice one. really sounds like a V10TT. i just wonder why we didnt hear anything for so long and now things just pop up like nothing....guess we'll really see this thing in frankfurt....cant wait

buyalemon
April 5th, 2007, 10:46
doesn't sound like a 8000 rpm revving machine ...sounds like a BiTurbo 550hp 780 nm V10 :dig:

andrewket
April 5th, 2007, 16:17
http://www.caranddriver.com/carvideos/?bcpid=627028702&bclid=686997774&bctid=716053172

Where is the first? I can't find it!

-A

Leadfoot
April 5th, 2007, 16:25
Where is the first? I can't find it!

-A

Here's the first.

http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Avantus/?action=view&current=156_5641.flv

Enjoy, mate.:thumb:

andrewket
April 5th, 2007, 16:31
Here's the first.

http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Avantus/?action=view&current=156_5641.flv

Enjoy, mate.:thumb:


Thanks - I had seen that one but I thought he meant another car and driver video. It looks good so far - PLEASE make it a TT with a manual!!! :hahahehe:

-A

RXBG
April 5th, 2007, 16:39
that thing definitely has a turbo and has an extremely tight suspension. still one can see how portly it'll be but probably damn good for its size. it's gonna be hella hella hella fast.......

rs-6
April 5th, 2007, 16:39
PLEASE make it a TT with a manual!!! :hahahehe:

-A

if so, next to an Automatic version.

Copper
April 5th, 2007, 18:33
It won't be a manual. Also look at the hand positions of the drive in the video closely. He never takes his hands of the wheel to shift and there is not a delays in the corners from the engine on up/down shifts. This thing has paddles on the wheel. I would hope it will come with DSG but who knows?:addict:

Hy Octane
April 5th, 2007, 18:52
Call me crazy but it sounds like a V8 to me..

Supercopa
April 5th, 2007, 23:07
Call me crazy but it sounds like a V8 to me..

i totally agree with you, it's the sound of a V8, not the sound of V10.

Leadfoot
April 5th, 2007, 23:23
i totally agree with you, it's the sound of a V8, not the sound of V10.

I totally agree with you, it does sound like a RS4 v8 only deeper, but you have to remember that there is two turbos which will mask the sound and make thing sound a little different than if they weren't there.

It's a V10 Bi-turbo alright and a mighty powerful one at that. As for the torque ....... well I think pictures can say more than a thousand words so here goes.




:bigeyes: :bow: :love: :king: :wo:

buyalemon
April 5th, 2007, 23:27
I don't hear any form of old "yankee" sound in this film ...doesn't sound like an high rev RS4 ..doesn't sound like the old biturbo RS6!

For me it's a V10 for sure ..but it doesn't screem like an M5 ..that's the reason why I believe in a new biturbo engine! 8000 rpms doesn't hoover like this one

Damienr8
April 5th, 2007, 23:29
http://www.caranddriver.com/carvideos/?bcpid=627028702&bclid=686997774&bctid=716053172

Mother of God from 21-24seconds in, it was tearing up the asphalt. Insanely quick :bigeyes:

Ok I know my opinion about the new RS6 having a 520HP NA High Revving 5.2L V10, was set in stone. However im hearing turbos in this vid......hummmmmm......i might just have to change my opinion.

Leadfoot
April 5th, 2007, 23:32
buyalemon,

You misunderstood me, I didn't think it sounded like the present RS4. I think in some ways it sounds a little like to RS4 but in a deeper tone the kind you hear from something with an even bigger capacity like say 5.0L ;) . But it is V10 that is a sure thing.

buyalemon
April 5th, 2007, 23:44
Ok :jlol:

There is not very much shifting gears in this vid either ...a highrev engine would have had a few really pornographic downshifts! The few upshifts I hear sounds like around 6800 rpms ..but they seem to go really fast :thumb:

Leadfoot
April 5th, 2007, 23:48
Ok :jlol:

There is not very much shifting gears in this vid either ...a highrev engine would have had a few really pornographic downshifts! The few upshifts I hear sounds like around 6800 rpms ..but they seem to go really fast :thumb:

Well just ask Superstar, he knows what will be.;)

Lateknight
April 5th, 2007, 23:55
Well thats made my mind up :thumb:

That of a V10 - no argument - definitely NOT a V8

First photobucket video demonstrates the monster midrange shove of a forced induction engine. Its got a slightly subdued exhaust note also.

Jury might still be out on transmission though, but I'm not discounting the notion that car might have had an automated manual of some sort. (pity some of the cut shots in the car and driver video didn't go on longer)

Place your orders now.:harass:

Leadfoot
April 8th, 2007, 13:06
Here is a little help for those unsure what the difference between the two RS6 engines V8tt vs V10tt.

The V8tt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blLDTp7_WnY

The V10tt http://www.caranddriver.com/carvideos/?bcpid=627028702&bclid=686997774&bctid=716053172

You need to go to near the end of the V10tt video to hear it pulling away from a complete stop, just like the other video.

Hope this helps.

Ruergard
April 8th, 2007, 16:39
Man... this is gonna´ be one crazy car. Shortly after 20 seconds into the clip, it's eating the road. DAMN! And out of the corners... did anybody mention Torque? :D

Leadfoot
April 8th, 2007, 17:47
Man... this is gonna´ be one crazy car. Shortly after 20 seconds into the clip, it's eating the road. DAMN! And out of the corners... did anybody mention Torque? :D

Ah yes the torque, this is the thing that proves to everyone that this is indeed a Bi-Turbo unit. You like the speed it pulls out of the corners then, so how much torque do you think the RS6 has?

Anyone?

moldowan
April 8th, 2007, 18:39
Ah yes the torque, this is the thing that proves to everyone that this is indeed a Bi-Turbo unit. You like the speed it pulls out of the corners then, so how much torque do you think the RS6 has?

Anyone?


(In the voice of Dr. Evil)...."One MILLION pounds!"

Lateknight
April 8th, 2007, 19:52
Unless its torque has been held back to protect its transmission (a'la Bentley Conti GT) torque in lb/ft is would usually between 90 and 100% of horsepower.

If it revs to 7000rpm or above this tends to go out the window. It might be as low as 80% of hp (479lb/ft or 650nm is a popular figure for Audis & Bentley)

So if it has (allegedly) got 580ps, torque should be at least 520lb/ft (over 700nm) :love:

Leadfoot
April 8th, 2007, 21:20
Unless its torque has been held back to protect its transmission (a'la Bentley Conti GT) torque in lb/ft is would usually between 90 and 100% of horsepower.

If it revs to 7000rpm or above this tends to go out the window. It might be as low as 80% of hp (479lb/ft or 650nm is a popular figure for Audis & Bentley)

So if it has (allegedly) got 580ps, torque should be at least 520lb/ft (over 700nm) :love:

:hahahehe:

Ruergard
April 8th, 2007, 21:27
Ah yes the torque, this is the thing that proves to everyone that this is indeed a Bi-Turbo unit. You like the speed it pulls out of the corners then, so how much torque do you think the RS6 has?

Anyone?

I guess somebody already answered the question. But if it really turns out 580 hp over 700 nm wouldn't be a problem at all. I hope that the gearbox really is something and we will see 710-730 nm on the papers... imagine that.

That smiley is looking good. ;)

QuattroFun
April 10th, 2007, 16:24
Groovy vid - thx for posting. Nice sound and pace, but not so impressed by the tyre squeal - he aint my brother, he's heavy.

Leadfoot
April 10th, 2007, 16:44
Groovy vid - thx for posting. Nice sound and pace, but not so impressed by the tyre squeal - he aint my brother, he's heavy.

QuattroFun,

Check the video of the R8, you will see two TTs going round tyres squealing away. If a light TT (1410kgs) will cry like a pig then why shouldn't a much heavier saloon like the RS6. Tyre squeal proves they are at their very limits of adhesion and as you should know awd cars normally do this.

In fact in the Top Gear video of the R32 it will squealing even in the wet.

QuattroFun
April 10th, 2007, 21:40
Quite - but with something like 1200kg over the front axle alone (i.e. the equivalent of a fwd 2.0TFSi TT), at least the front tyres must surely be overheated, dead and buried after just one fast lap...and torque will no doubt fix the rears as well:addict:

Leadfoot
April 10th, 2007, 22:16
Quite - but with something like 1200kg over the front axle alone (i.e. the equivalent of a fwd 2.0TFSi TT), at least the front tyres must surely be overheated, dead and buried after just one fast lap...and torque will no doubt fix the rears as well:addict:

Yeah, but for a tyre what a way to go. Talking about tyres, there is a possibility that the tyre companies quite be developing a special version for this very car, capable of coping with the heat and the demand placed on them from the very weight of the thing.

skiwi
April 11th, 2007, 08:08
fwiw, the fwd 2.0 tfsi tt is a lot more than 1200kg. an elan it ain't....

QuattroFun
April 11th, 2007, 21:02
Well, indeed fwiw: from Audi.de: TT Coupé 2.0 TFSI 147(200) kW (PS) 6-Gang, Leergewicht: 1260 kg so pardon me for being too generous in my rounding...

skiwi
April 11th, 2007, 21:41
must be different in your part of the world. declared weight for the 2 litre tfsi coupe dsg is 1340kg down under....

Leadfoot
April 11th, 2007, 22:04
must be different in your part of the world. declared weight for the 2 litre tfsi coupe dsg is 1340kg down under....

It all down to the way Audi Europe and Audi Australia test the weight of the car, in Europe the weight is unladen (without fluids) but in Australia the car is weighed full of fluids only not the ones for the car.

Example.

Australian Audi weight tester "Ah Dick, did you remember to fill the boot full of Fosters", other Audi weight tester "Yeah Jim, management said it compulsory for all Ozzy customers as a standard options fit to all cars and anyway it also helps the weight balance, though only until you get home and unload". :hihi:

Michal12
April 12th, 2007, 21:29
Absolutely not. It is a V10 - you can clearly hear that typical trumpet-like resonances.

Call me crazy but it sounds like a V8 to me..

audirs6.ch
April 19th, 2007, 10:17
Nice sound

SuperstarDriver
April 19th, 2007, 15:04
as i said more than 580HP V10 TT and S-Tiptronic transmision, 680Nm as i heard and 0-62m/h in 4.1-4.2s...a mean machine:D

Leadfoot
April 19th, 2007, 16:17
A quote from a source inside Audi in this week Autocar states that Quattro (Audi's performance division) will only have one RS model in production at any one time, so does this mean that the R8v10 will not be known as the RS8?

SuperstarDriver
April 19th, 2007, 16:58
no it doesn't be like that!it will be an TT RS, RS6, RS5,RS8 (from A8), R8 V10...and maybe in the future if Lambo will not be in Audi group an V12 pushing more than 610HP via twin turbo's for R8...time should talk about this cars:D

JavierNuvolari
April 19th, 2007, 18:12
I hardly believe what you posted SuperstarDriver....not being an ass here but Quattro is quite small, and no matter how much we want a TTV12 for the beloved R8...it just won't fit in there unless it's small, very small. Plus, a TTV12 will generate a significant more amount of temperature on the engine bay wich will be a BIG problem. Someone from the board posted long time ago(when the R8 was being developed) that TT was left aside because of temperatures.


Cheers mate,

Javier

SuperstarDriver
April 19th, 2007, 18:31
yeah?really? NO NO NO
R8=LE MANS CONCEPT=SAME SIZE=SAME CONCEPT=SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE OF THE ENGINE BAY!!! LE MANS QUATTRO CONCEPT was having an V12 TT of 5.5l developing exactly 610HP...what you are saying is stupidity!Audi it could release that car with that power on it ONLY when LAMBORGHINI will not be threaten by Audi, by then we shall wait only for the V10 with 500HP! If Lambo will not be on PAG group will shall se an Audi so fast that even Ferrai could not keep with them...
if right now in this moment Lambo will not be the property of Audi A.G. the RS6 will have 600HP, RS5 550HP, RS8 650HP and R8 V12 650-700HP at least...i know more than you think man so do not underestimate Audi...and Quattro G.M.B.H. has more technology, funds, experts and resources than any other manufacturer of sportscars like AMG or M Power...
I LOVE LAMBO BUT I'M SO PISSED OF THAT THEY DON'T LET THEM PUT ALL THE AUDI TECHNOLOGY IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I COULD KILL LAMBO PRESIDENT IF I CAN...AUDI IS WAY MORE BETTER EVEN THAN BUGATTI, BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO SEE THAT!
Why do you think Audi brand comercial is all about VORPRUNG DURCH TECHNIK?!THE TECHNOLOGY FROM AUDI LABORATORIES IS WAY OUT FROM THIS PLANET...you shall see why Audi will kick off forever Mercedes and BMW from the first place of sales cause from the range of performance they've been kicked them from long ago...do not speak something that you are not aloud to speek or you don't know the real truth!

JavierNuvolari
April 19th, 2007, 19:04
1.- Please don't be disrespectful with me, I don't go around other threads writing that what you say it's stupid...do I?

2.- I think you just answered yourself on your post....the LeMans was a CONCEPT.

3.- "the RS6 will have 600HP, RS5 550HP, RS8 650HP and R8 V12 650-700HP at least..." Hell!!! I'll send you a bottle of wine directly to your home if your sayings are precise.

Back on topic?

Javier

Damienr8
April 19th, 2007, 19:24
I COULD KILL LAMBO PRESIDENT IF I CAN... :rolleyes:

SuperstarDriver
April 19th, 2007, 19:28
you know that Audi is kicked off by Lambo wouldn't you?! Also i want to say that are a few months to go to see how it will look and how performant will be the new RS6 but with definitively will have 585HP...and it will be the fastest 4 door saloon in the world!

Leadfoot
April 19th, 2007, 19:41
If Audi are annoyed at anyone it will be VW not Lamborghini, heck Audi have had control of Lamborghini for a few years now.

As for the power output of the RS models, the RS6 will have 585hp but I very much doubt the RS5 will have 550hp, that would place that model to close to the RS6 and the R8v10 for comfort. I doubt we will see the RS5 with anything more than 450hp and I am starting to doubt if we will see any more than two or three RS models, comprising of a RS4, RS5 and RS6. The others will have to do with a S version I reckon for the moment until Quattro GmbH extends to accomodates more versions.

Benman
April 19th, 2007, 20:06
SuperStar...

Another warning... Show respect are you will no longer be allowed to post. Period.

Ben:addict:

skiwi
April 19th, 2007, 20:59
Amen to that!

Leadfoot
April 19th, 2007, 22:47
I too can get a little carried away in the heat of an argument, admittedly both the people who the arguments were with are now no longer here and the site is the better for it, but I have decided to step back from the keyboard in these occasions and I'm all the better for it. :)

Please Superstar try it out and you will be respected all the more. :thumb:

I think what Ben and the rest are trying to tell you is we all know you don't like BMWs, but you can stop now I think we has got the point. :0:

SuperstarDriver
April 20th, 2007, 06:30
ok if you got the point i'm calm but guys i really don't want to be nervous because someone will post that a BMW is faster then Audi because hew predicts or thinks so...that kind of things make me mad... i saw some post about the new M3 who were killin me and i was very nervous about that cause i do not want bmw fans on this forum and anti audi fans here...it's is easy for all of us saying what we all know:audi rocks the place!

PeterJohn
April 20th, 2007, 15:27
The Le Mans concept was a V10TT, not a V12TT.

I don't think the point of the R8 is to prove that Audi can build supercars, because with Lamborghini and Bugatti in the family, they've got that covered. What they didn't have in the line up was a GT sportscar.

They could put a V10TT in. But they would have a big problem to solve with the intercoolers. And they have nothing to prove anyway.

Leadfoot
April 20th, 2007, 15:33
Well put PeterJohn.:applause:

SuperstarDriver
April 20th, 2007, 16:51
yes they will proove that even SLR 722 Edition could not be better then Audi R8 V10 TT (Sorry for saying that the concept was having V12)...Audi always will proove that with less power destroy competition with more power...that's all about! And there will be an R8 V10 with more than 600HP...is on the list in 2-3 years off, i know from a lot of magazine and my dealer friend told me about it after reading in the magazines, so expect in the future a super higly hypercar from Audi...for now Audi has a Supercar!