Can your Audi get you off speeding?

[Lateknight]

Caught doing 257km/h in a 120km/h limit and he gets off because he drives an Audi :thumb:

http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=3748886&fSectionId=751&fSetId=381

This guy had a combination of an excellent car and a good lawyer.

[Ruergard]

Hahhaha, that's a good one! :D

[LU-RS6]

I was stopped by a Polizei Mercedes C break about 2 weeks ago. They caught me crossing 2 white lines whilst taking over an M3 and speeding upto 230 km/h in a 90 zone.
They seemed to be impressed by the car and where wispering "RS6" to each other. Very nice cops, and they were very understanding as they must have realized my actions were not dangerous given the situation.

They dropped the speeding and gave me a warning of 35 EUR for the overtaking. :thumb:

Respect to those guys. They were right I shouldn't overtake there, and the speeding was not dangerous.


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[Erik]

I hade the "bitte Folgen" on me 2 years ago as well... :D

I was in my Auädi A3, no charges :D

[jonas21]

hehe, havent seen it yet (knock on wood...).

That spanish driver must be really lucky....i guess you get a pretty high fee in spain?

[LU-RS6]

hehe, havent seen it yet (knock on wood...).

That spanish driver must be really lucky....i guess you get a pretty high fee in spain?


I heard about the same article, but according to my knowledge the driver was not excused for his speeding , his sentence merely got reduced because the judge claimed that driving at that speed on that spot in those circumstances was not necessarily dangerous.
Still I think he lost his driver's license for several months and had to pay a fine.

[Boosted-Bora]

Funny I had a cop pull me over for doing 125mph in a 45mph zone and he congratulated me on the buy come to find out he had a brand new RS4 :rs4kiss:

[george h]

to hell with all of you. I never get off without ticket. Car should be equipped with radar detector as standard.

[Benman]

to hell with all of you. I never get off without ticket...

Well I was pulled over NINE times before recieving my first ticket. ;) :D:applause:

Ben:addict:

[AndyBG]

Well I was pulled over NINE times before recieving my first ticket. ;) :D:applause:

Ben:addict:

:alig:

That is what I call expiriance !

[Finnus]

Well I was pulled over NINE times before recieving my first ticket. ;) :D:applause:

Ben:addict:

Ben,

You must have a "system" ...

Finnus

[Benman]

Ben,

You must have a "system" ...

Finnus


It's called dumb luck!:cheers:

Ben:addict:

[JAXRS6]

Geez, and I got a ticket in Nevada, which used to have no speed limit! :vgrumpy:

OK, I'm moving to Spain ... or Switzerland ... or maybe Southern California so I can take along Ben whenever I stomp on it!:dig:

Actually the Nevada ticket never showed up on my home state records, so I never suffered insurance premium consequences & can't really complain much. I was doing about 120 mph when I saw the cop & slowed down; he got me at 98 but ticketed me for 88. Officer said if he'd caught me at 100 or over, there would be no break and my fine would have more than tripled to $750. I think I got the break because I was honest when he asked, "Why were you going so fast?" My reply: "Well, it's a new car (this was in 2003), has lots of power, the road ahead and behind me was clear, so I went for it."

He smiled and said "I would have done the same thing ... but you got caught."

[LU-RS6]

OK, I'm moving to Spain ... or Switzerland ... or maybe Southern California so I can take along Ben whenever I stomp on it!:dig:


I wouldn't move to Switzerland, it has one of the most severe trafficlaws in Europe. I'd pick some eastern European country or Germany then :thumb:




Actually the Nevada ticket never showed up on my home state records, so I never suffered insurance premium consequences & can't really complain much.

Getting caught speeding has consequences for insurance in the US?? Dayumn :doh:

[manticRS6]

they have some hefty fines these days. Also most cities have speed limits of 35km/h and 50km/h (22 mph & 31mph). I feel spoiled if I can do 80mph on the 405 and the cops dont care!

[JAXRS6]

Getting caught speeding has consequences for insurance in the US?? Dayumn :doh:


Oh, yeah -- big time!:bigeyes:I don't have precise figures but one ticket hurts, and two or three within a two or three year period REALLY hurts. Premiums can double, I think. Once this happens, searching for another insurance company becomes difficult, too, because most firms have access to data bases showing those tickets. (Sometimes they miss tickets out of one's home state, though, as happened with my Nevada stop.) The theory, I guess, is that speeding drivers are less safe than those who don't speed ... and, that those who get caught may not have been paying attention as much as they should have. I assume they have data showing a relationship between speeding and accidents, which of course cost them money.

This doesn't happen in Switzerland and/or Europe? Aren't your insurance companies for-profit businesses? Do they not regard speeding as a risky business? Or maybe they don't find out about tickets?

Then there's driver's education. I've read that Germany can be tough, but many states here have no requirement at all. Dumb & dangerous actions by many drivers are the result. Tailgating and running red lights seems to be the latest trend among younger drivers, at least in Florida. With so many idiots on the road, insurance companies probably use tickets of ANY kind to raise rates on "bad" drivers so that they can keep their "good" drivers happy with lower rates.

[jonas21]

This doesn't happen in Switzerland and/or Europe? Aren't your insurance companies for-profit businesses? Do they not regard speeding as a risky business? Or maybe they don't find out about tickets?

Yup, i dont know a single country in europe which does this. European data protection laws protect us....the insurance companys arent allowed to get this data (i bet they'd like to have it). Of course our insurance companys are for-profit, too.
I dont think speeding is that risky...actually it might just be otherwise. Just look at Denmark(?). 2 years ago they had a speed limit of 100 and they wanted to raise it to 120km/h. Alot of people complained and predicted fatal increase in accidents....guess what happend....accident count went down 20% (!) when it passed law.
Might be the fact that people who are speeding watch things more closer (atleast for their own safety if not at all).

[JAXRS6]

Thanks, Jonas. Very interesting.

Can you or others reply regarding driver's education in Europe: Is it required, or does that vary? Is it very thorough/comprehensive? More difficult in Germany than elsewhere, due to unlimited Autobahn speeds & the knowlege required to travel those speeds safely?

[jonas21]

Thanks, Jonas. Very interesting.

Can you or others reply regarding driver's education in Europe: Is it required, or does that vary? Is it very thorough/comprehensive? More difficult in Germany than elsewhere, due to unlimited Autobahn speeds & the knowlege required to travel those speeds safely?

I have no idea regarding differences in german to US drivers license program.
However here you just need to get a normal drivers license and can go as far as your car can.

[Lateknight]

Here in the UK we don't have anything like drivers education.

If you get banned (usually over multiple minor offenses or one biggie) all you have to do is sit your driving test/exam again before getting your license back.

Our test is relatively easy. (I had to look this up, its changed a bit since I passed)
You sit an exam of 35 multiple choice questions.
Then do a driving test of no more than 40 minutes or 9 miles. Your allowed to make up to 15 minor errors and still pass :eek:
Judging by some of the driving skill I've seen some drivers employ here in the UK, it makes me wonder how they even managed to pass that.:(

There are advanced driving tests you can take, but you are definitely not forced (or even encouraged) to take these at any time, no matter what indesgretion you have done in your car.

[Lateknight]

I have no idea regarding differences in german to US drivers license program.
However here you just need to get a normal drivers license and can go as far as your car can.

Jonas, Does your license test involve any mandatory Autobahn driving?

With Germany still having the last few stretches of unlimited roads, is it possible to have passed the license test never having done more than 100kph? To then legally do 300kph once passed?

[jonas21]

Jonas, Does your license test involve any mandatory Autobahn driving?

With Germany still having the last few stretches of unlimited roads, is it possible to have passed the license test never having done more than 100kph? To then legally do 300kph once passed?

When i made mine it was needed to have driven 2 longer parts on the Autobahn (say 2x2 hours). However there was no speed training (we did 180km/h topspeed...).
Basically you could just strip the learning hours (if you do know howto drive already...) and just go for the minimal program. That way it might possible.
But i am sure, most people here are not that insane to go for these speeds without getting sufficent further knowledge or testing this on a track with trainer.

[LU-RS6]

When i made mine it was needed to have driven 2 longer parts on the Autobahn (say 2x2 hours). However there was no speed training (we did 180km/h topspeed...).
Basically you could just strip the learning hours (if you do know howto drive already...) and just go for the minimal program. That way it might possible.
But i am sure, most people here are not that insane to go for these speeds without getting sufficent further knowledge or testing this on a track with trainer.


The fact that Germans are better drivers IMO is due to 2 facts:

Better "schooling" in driving
Better "schooling" via their parents

[manticRS6]

Let me give you my 2 cents. I was born and raised in Switzerland and lived there until age 26. At age 18 I learned driving by going to a professional driving instructor that taught me how to drive. At the time there was no law on how many instruction hours you need to be eligible for taking the driving test, but I took 22 hours. My understanding is that now they have a minimum of 30 or 40 hours of instruction before your even allowed to take the test. Also, while taking the instruction classes, if I went somewhere with my parents they slapped a big blue "L" sign (learner) on the back and I drove. That helped me a lot to get upto speed quickly.

One of the things that surprised me when I took the DMV test here in the US was how short and easy the test was. Besides the idiot proof multiple choice test, I was in the car for less than 10 minutes and went around the block maybe 3 times. Now let me compare this to the test in Switzerland. The test was almost 1 hour long. It included driving in the city, on the freeway and highway, regular parking, parallel parking, stoping and starting on an incline, save braking, save distance driving etc. And I remember that during the test, the test administrator kept asking me questions about driving, what to do if you had a flat or ran out of gas etc.

In my eyes the preparation in Europe is definitely better, but I dont know what the stats are when it comes to comparing who are the safer or better drivers.

[LU-RS6]

In my eyes the preparation in Europe is definitely better, but I dont know what the stats are when it comes to comparing who are the safer or better drivers.


I think the answer can be extracted out of your post.

[Benman]

The fact that Germans are better drivers IMO is due to 2 facts:

Better "schooling" in driving
Better "schooling" via their parents

+1000000!

Amen to that!

I am suprised that the EU countries do not raise rates based on tickets and such! Good for you guys!:0: As JAX mentioned, our rates can quickly double after a few tickets so we have to watch out!

Ben:addict:

[Lateknight]

+1000000!

Amen to that!

I am suprised that the EU countries do not raise rates based on tickets and such! Good for you guys!:0: As JAX mentioned, our rates can quickly double after a few tickets so we have to watch out!

Ben:addict:

In UK anything more than 4 points on your license (2 minor speeding offences or 1 excessive speeding offence) will load your next insurance rate.