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Las Palmas
January 6th, 2007, 16:41
For those of you that have been members for a long time would you throw out a legitimate guess on the percentage of DRC failures on all RS 6's produced.So far I have been lucky(knock on wood) but wondering if it is luck of the draw or is my time comming?Possible to have the car for a long time without DRC failure?

noushy
January 7th, 2007, 16:03
I have had mine for a total of 38 months, and have not had any DRC failures. But I keep my car very clean, many many underbody washes. And I try to avoid winter salt and snow. It was driven mostly in dry weather, in the spring and summer. I think that has a lot to do with the failures.

Peace,
Noushy

bbigman2000
January 8th, 2007, 00:09
I think you'd be looking at 50-70% failure rate, in the UK anyway !!

Mine was replaced in its entirety at 30k miles.

Benman
January 8th, 2007, 17:01
For those of you that have been members for a long time would you throw out a legitimate guess on the percentage of DRC failures on all RS 6's produced....

Just a guess, but I'd say far less than 10%, perhaps as low as 4-5%. This is just going by all the owners I've met in person and through this forum that I do know that have had the problem vs those that have not.

I do know however that when it happens to you, it sucks! :cheers:

Ben

JAXRS6
January 9th, 2007, 04:13
At 62K mine has been fixed twice. The Sarasota, FL dealer that did both repairs told me on the second visit that they had fixed DRC on two other RS6s. And there have been numerous threads here, one of them in the form of a poll that might be helpful to you. All that suggests a pervasive problem.

On the other hand, my dealer in suburban Detroit, which serves a much larger market and presumably sold & services more RS6s, had yet to make a DRC repair when I inquired last summer. Ditto for the dealer in Fort Myers, FL: No DRC repairs there as of last week, when I called to ask.

All of which suggests that trying to estimate the extent of this problem really is difficult. My own gut feeling is that it's more than the 10% suggested in the post above, but probably less than 40% overall.

noushy
January 9th, 2007, 14:35
Jack, you are right as far as detroit. Rochester has yet to fix one last time I checked. I just turned mine in, and will miss it. I am glad I did not have problems with the DRC (at least to my knowledge). Looking forward to another Audi down the road.

Noushy

Benman
January 9th, 2007, 15:02
My own gut feeling is that it's more than the 10% suggested in the post above, but probably less than 40% overall.

That is actually a good possibility. 10% is not unrealistic. The dealer here in Riverside has had one reported repair by the master tech. Compare that to the 15 or so RS 6s that he services. Others report more, others less.

I'd agree that 40% though sounds way too high...

In the end, we will probably never know for sure as AOA will never disclose the true #s.

Ben:addict:

vec110
February 9th, 2007, 23:33
Hey what are the most common clues that your drc is going? I have a "clunk" sound coming from rear on both sides. And i also was merging on the highway around a nice turn under some load and hit a bump. the back end stepped in a violent way about 6 inches (my guess, always not as bad as you think when you are driving.) I have only owed the car for about three weeks now. i have it at the dealership now for replacement of the right cam cover gasket due to an oil leak. and 35k service. which is more intense than i thought (replace timing belt!!!). I told them to check out the suspension and explained the previously stated problems to the service manager there and he said that they would check it out for safety reasons! any help would be great! thanks guys.:stick:

JAXRS6
February 10th, 2007, 00:33
[QUOTE=vec110;86484] I have a "clunk" sound coming from rear on both sides. QUOTE]

That was the only symptom in my case; I never noticed a difference in handling, although many others did. You call it a clunk; at the time I called it a banging rattle under the floor.

vec110
February 10th, 2007, 02:11
[quote=vec110;86484] I have a "clunk" sound coming from rear on both sides. QUOTE]

That was the only symptom in my case; I never noticed a difference in handling, although many others did. You call it a clunk; at the time I called it a banging rattle under the floor.

that too describes it. How did you get the dealership to fix it? they said they would check it over for safety. I said yeah that sounds like a good plan but i hope you just check if its broke! and i need them to fix it now because factory warrenty is up on it this august...thanks for the help though that assured me it is broken. They have already had my car for three days and plan on keeping it till tuesday i guess i can wait another 5 more lol.:mech:

JAXRS6
February 10th, 2007, 04:36
I took it in with a complaint about banging undercarriage rattles. This was two years ago, when the DRC problem was first emerging. The dealer tech spent ten hours looking for the rattles' source; no luck. Then the AOA rep stopped by, ordered replacement of the "DRC central valve gas accumulator," which arrived a couple of days later. Then the labor to install it ... all in all my beast was at the dealership for two or three weeks. I posted this in detail previously but I'm too lazy to search for it right now. Also found out, later, that the dealership had to eat those ten hours.

I'm not sure how this might help you now, tho. Some dealers are familiar with DRC issues; some are not. Some owners have been a lot more pissed than me, and some have had no DRC problems whatsoever. But as more RS6s pass 30K mi and new cases continue to come up, I wonder if AOA may be resisting replacement of the valve under warranty due to its ridiculous cost ($1K USD).

You know to look for stains around the shocks, right? The DRC fluid seldom leaks enough to reach the garage floor, so it's not obvious when parked. Take a look when it's on a hoist, though; if the DRC is failing, there should be signs of leaking. At least that's what others have said, and they've posted pix showing the stains.

ruxprncd
February 10th, 2007, 04:42
uh oh...JAXRS6, you describe the sound under the left rear of my car to a T...

LIRS6
February 11th, 2007, 05:16
vec110, sounds like you have DRC failure - the "violent" movement sideways was one of the tell-tale signs that I experienced, although my shocks showed signs of leakage as well. Replacement of the shocks is only half the cure - the central accumulators MUST be replaced or else there will not be enough pressure in the system and you will continue to experience the same symptoms.

vec110
February 12th, 2007, 23:27
my car should be done tomorrow. i ended up calling the dealership on sat morn to tell them to check the drc system. i heard a big sigh on the other end of the phone and the service manager said that wasnt the problem. hahaha when i first brought the car in i was no too concerned about the clunk sound in the rear end being a big problem but i told them while it was in there for the 35k service to check it out. i told them my two symptoms and the service manager said yeah ill check it out for safety sake. i said no just make sure its not broke. thats when i thought something was up so decided to do some more research on this forumn. well i am pretty sure now that the drc system has failed. the service manager told me that the master tech was going to take a look at it for me today. he also informed me that he personally already looked at it up on the lift and saw no signs of leakage.... All i know is that i have only owned this car for two weeks now and it has been at the dealer for one now...lol. so i have never really driven the car without the problem and i still love it, i cant wait to get it fixed. If it still "clunks" when i get it back tomorrow i will be calling aoa and bringing it to another dealership. i just felt the dealer just blew me off when i told them it was the drc failure. he said that only happened on a few cars. when i asked him what was a few cars his response was ummmmm i dont know a couple. i said well thereare only a "few " cars here in the usa so it has to be a significant problem. he again assured me that it was alright and his master mechanic would take a look at it. i dont have too much confidence that it will be fixed right when i get it back. as you can see im a little mad right now...

george h
February 13th, 2007, 20:42
I picked my RS6 up yesterday. It seems to be fixed, although I'd need to find an 80 mph curve with mild road imperfections to satisfy myself. The dealer had it for 6 weeks. Lots of time used up as dealer tried to get AoA to authorize the repair. Now I will be writing to express my unhappiness at their approach to this issue.

Mr. Johan DeNysschen
Executive Vice President - Audi of America
3499 W. Hamlin Road
Rochester Hills, Michigan 48309

Good luck VEC110. Keep on them, be polite but insistent. The mechanics probably haven't seen this, and Audi isn't telling them how to fix it unless the customer apples pressure.

vec110
February 13th, 2007, 23:04
thanks for the advice. i will be pushing because i believe i bought the car for the performance hahaha. i havent even gotten to drive mine hard yet because of this. the audi i took out for my first test drive i beat the snot out of because i knew it wasnt the car i was going to buy. and it handled great. the only time i really got on mine like i said was on that on ramp and i was like ut oh i dont like that. so i am pissed i want this thing to handle good. my last car was an 04 s4 that i traded in on the beast. before that it was an 03 evo which was an amazing handling car. i liked the s4 but it was too tame for me. the evo i loved but picking up customers or anyone really didnt really sit too well with the big wing and the lack of luxuries. so when i got in the rs6 it reminded me of all the reasons i missed my evo and with everything i liked about the s4 ...so i had to get one!
I didnt realize that the dealerships had to get authorized from aoa to do this repair!!!! i will be pushing more now...thanks for the heads up. i have been as polite as i can possibly be towards my dealer now with them trying to play it off but now im certain this needs to be fixed. i dont think i will like not having my car for another week or more but....i too will be writing to aoa for something back if this takes more time!
about how much time did it take for these repairs to take place after the dealership agreed that there was a problem that had to be fixed?

LIRS6
February 14th, 2007, 19:53
George - Send the letter, but don't expect much. I did the same (by fax) when I had concerns about my dealer performing DRC repair as they admitted to no experience with it. DeNysschen passed it to his assistant, James Cruse, who promptly tore my dealer a new arsehole for having told me. Took dealer/AoA 3 months to get it close to right (still not like factory settings).

Aronis
February 15th, 2007, 02:33
George - Send the letter, but don't expect much. I did the same (by fax) when I had concerns about my dealer performing DRC repair as they admitted to no experience with it. DeNysschen passed it to his assistant, James Cruse, who promptly tore my dealer a new arsehole for having told me. Took dealer/AoA 3 months to get it close to right (still not like factory settings).

James Cruze, there's a name I did not want to read again...his phone number is in my speed dial on my cell.

It's funny how people post that AOA said this is an uncommon problem....when a brand new RS4 has a DRC failure I call that more than uncommon.....it's just interesting that the RS4's are showing the failure SOONER than the RS6's with the Second Generation System.

Oh well....Ohlin's or PSS9's are the easy way out.

Mike

Hy Octane
February 15th, 2007, 05:08
For me as with many others, I bought a car with a really stiff suspension with minimal rebound and crisp turn in .. no body roll and no dive/squat..
It broke, they tried to fix it..
I now have a car that has a totally different ride. It sits higher, it leans so far during corners that I had to put H-Sport sway bars to try and flatten it out again. Its better, but still, it is an inferior handling car to what it was for 2 years before they repaired it..I just cant understand why AoA is trying to make us think we are crazy and accept an inferior car when they should bend over backwards to get to the bottom of this.. admit there was a widespread DRC failure problem, yes some techs did improper repairs, yours might be one.. so we will gladly work with you our customer to return your special car to the way it was when you bought it, and we are sorry for the inconvenience..
Instead we get. " My head service man in the USA says your car is up to specs, so there is no need for any additional work"..

I dont like being disregarded.. I know the days are gone where the customer is always right, but to infer that the customer is is wrong about the feel of his car he has driven every day for 2 years since new is just plain stupid. its maddening and wrong.. I wish someone out there could come up with a solution for those of us (and there are obviously many) who also feel that their car is not right after the DRC repair to force AoA to do the right thing and fix the damned things !!!!

Aronis
February 15th, 2007, 15:09
ummm...

The real KICKER is that when I asked James Cruse about changing my shocks to PSS9's would there be a problem when I return the car.

AOA's party line on the lease is that you would have to return it to factory spec and reinstall the DRC system....of course it is unlikely that it would end up being normal again after reinstalling (allthough the pressure would hold in the disconnected central valves until reconnected) then the new customer buying the off lease car would be hosed.....

Audi has done a poor job with this issue just as they did with the so-called unexplained acceloration problem of not too long ago.

These kind of 'issues' do not help their image.

Mike

SAF
February 16th, 2007, 16:44
I have 53.5K miles on my RS6. Picked it up Nov. 1st with 49K miles and Audi CPO warranty. The first cold snap I noticed a clunking sound in the rear and spent two days looking for something loose.

Took it in to the dealer I had purchased my A3 from at 50K for a "going over" check up and told them of the noise. They couldn't figure it out either. Then I started searching this board and AudiWorld and became educated on the problem. My tech has seen leakage all the way around, but tells me it is not warranted under CPO!!

That's where I am currently. I will be calling Audi for an advocate and revisiting this with the dealer when I go in for my 55K service.

sechsgang
February 16th, 2007, 18:28
I have 53.5K miles on my RS6. Picked it up Nov. 1st with 49K miles and Audi CPO warranty. The first cold snap I noticed a clunking sound in the rear and spent two days looking for something loose.

Took it in to the dealer I had purchased my A3 from at 50K for a "going over" check up and told them of the noise. They couldn't figure it out either. Then I started searching this board and AudiWorld and became educated on the problem. My tech has seen leakage all the way around, but tells me it is not warranted under CPO!!

That's where I am currently. I will be calling Audi for an advocate and revisiting this with the dealer when I go in for my 55K service.


they are nuts if they tell you that is NOT covered under CPO...if you have not touched the car with upgraded suspension...they MUST fix the problem...especially if its as obvious as it is...

LIRS6
February 16th, 2007, 18:50
SAF - I suspect that you would have to prove that the leakage is due to a mechanical defect; otherwise u may be hosed, from the way I read Audi's CPO details. Then again, I think you would have a lot of support from the boards in suggesting that DRC failure IS due to a defect - I've been through it (under factory warranty), and this is not a "wear and tear" scenario IMO.

SAF
February 16th, 2007, 19:17
I put up a request on AudiWorld's RS6 forum not too long ago requesting specifics from anyone who has had their DRC repaired under warranty, and specifically CPO warranty. I know I may be one of the few that has ventured into this territory with over 50K miles, but given the fact that it most likely was present when Audi certified the car just before my purchase, I am getting ready to bang heads with all involved shortly.

If anyone has experience with CPO covered DRC repair, or even regular warranty repair, please post the contact info of service center where it was done here, or contact me with the information so that I can present it to my tech and management. Thanks for your input!

sechsgang, where are you in Philly? I lived and worked on the Main Line most of my life.

JAXRS6
February 16th, 2007, 19:45
I know of at least one incident in the past in which AOA came to bat for owners of a particular model with recurring problems. It happened with my 2000 B5 S4. I don't remember exactly when they did it, but sometime around 2001-2002 AOA voluntarily extended the warranty for MAF filters to 7 years or 70,000 miles. This followed extensive postings about B5 S4 MAF filter failures at audiworld.com

Seems like the DRC issue is similar in its growing frequency (as more RS6s reach or exceed 30K mi), and in having its origins in substandard design rather than normal wear & tear. So why isn't AOA stepping up to the bat this time? I can think of three possible reasons:

1. Different folks are in charge now, compared to back then.

2. There are a lot fewer RS6s than B5 S4s; i.e. the size of the potential complaining audience is much smaller. (But that also means fewer fixes will be needed.)

3. Expense per fix. That friggin' DRC central control valve, by itself, is -- at $1K USD -- three times as costly as the MAF filter repair mentioned above.

Still, tho our numbers are small, I think we represent a significant group, owning as we do the first RS to come to the states -- the most powerful, exclusive and expensive Audi ever at the time it came out. And not just the first, but the RS that everyone is waiting for in its next iteration -- none more so than us.

AOA should consider the cost of losing this group's loyalty before it writes us off.

sechsgang
February 17th, 2007, 21:21
I put up a request on AudiWorld's RS6 forum not too long ago requesting specifics from anyone who has had their DRC repaired under warranty, and specifically CPO warranty. I know I may be one of the few that has ventured into this territory with over 50K miles, but given the fact that it most likely was present when Audi certified the car just before my purchase, I am getting ready to bang heads with all involved shortly.

If anyone has experience with CPO covered DRC repair, or even regular warranty repair, please post the contact info of service center where it was done here, or contact me with the information so that I can present it to my tech and management. Thanks for your input!

sechsgang, where are you in Philly? I lived and worked on the Main Line most of my life.

I am around King of Prussia and happen to be one of two RS6s I have seen around this area.

vec110
February 24th, 2007, 01:42
My car has been returned to me as of last week and has not yet been fixed. they said everything was good on the sus and i could come pick it up. the day i picked it up there was a snow storm so i could not give the mechanic a ride to show him rattles and bottoming out and nice violent movement under decient load....etc... so i will be bringing this back to the dealership. first i am having my remote starter put in and the rnse nav!!!! just in time to give it back to the dealership!!!!!!!!! I will not rest until they replace my sus in whole! i had to laugh at the dealer too. when i first told him that i did the research on here he laughed, then when he said that if the sus wasnt good yet he would have to look on this forum for some info!!!!

Aronis
February 24th, 2007, 01:57
Look, don't waste your time. Go to a dealer whose mechanic has FIXED one before. My mechinic is
Burdick Audi
5885 E. Circle Drive
Cicero, NY 13039
Phone: (315) 699-2661
Fax: (315) 699-2665

This guy fixed it right the first time, maybe not 100% normal but close enough.

The guy in Latham TRIED but they would not listen to my input or feedback. The regional service rep (out of Marboro Mass) is

Glenn Mac Gregor
Technical Field Manager

Audi of America
Product Quality and Technical Service
Northeast region
753 Forest St.
Marlboro, MA 01752
Tel.508 460 0358
Fax. 508 460 1891
Glenn.MacGregor@Audi.com

He is knowledgable BUT could not fix my car, perhaps he has learned how to follow the exact repair steps. It is NOT rocket science, they simply have to follow the directions precisely.

Mike

vec110
February 24th, 2007, 02:30
Look, don't waste your time. Go to a dealer whose mechanic has FIXED one before. My mechinic is
Burdick Audi
5885 E. Circle Drive
Cicero, NY 13039
Phone: (315) 699-2661
Fax: (315) 699-2665

This guy fixed it right the first time, maybe not 100% normal but close enough.

The guy in Latham TRIED but they would not listen to my input or feedback. The regional service rep (out of Marboro Mass) is

Glenn Mac Gregor
Technical Field Manager

Audi of America
Product Quality and Technical Service
Northeast region
753 Forest St.
Marlboro, MA 01752
Tel.508 460 0358
Fax. 508 460 1891
Glenn.MacGregor@Audi.com

He is knowledgable BUT could not fix my car, perhaps he has learned how to follow the exact repair steps. It is NOT rocket science, they simply have to follow the directions precisely.

Mike


Thanks for all that info. I just emailed the rep. i checked how far your dealership was from me and it is about 300 miles!!!!! i emailed glenn to find out if there was any dealership around 100 miles from me that has "correctly fixed" a DRC.

Aronis
February 24th, 2007, 03:00
Happy Hunting....I suspect Glenn would by now have the process down but I would have also EXPECTED him to be involved in the repair of your car, since it's 1. A Rare Audi 2. a COMMON RS6 Problem.

Mike

S6LANA
February 24th, 2007, 03:40
Just to chime in with my experience. I too have suspected DRC failure for quite some time. I have tons of clunking both fore and aft--or so it sounds while driving. I'm not noticing any steering issues though, just unpleasant noise and it is pretty jolting on bumps.

I just can't bring myself to visit the dealer, because they told me they have never seen a failed DRC before, so you know what that means.

Aronis
February 24th, 2007, 15:41
and this is not a "wear and tear" scenario IMO.

I have to agree, it's a failure of the Seal design...the dis-similar metals cause errosion, NOT ROAD SALT.

Mike

rubyblack
March 12th, 2007, 15:15
Makes for interesting reading....:applause:


http://www.rs6.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4758&stc=1&d=1173712221

http://www.rs6.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4759&stc=1&d=1173712221

http://www.rs6.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4760&stc=1&d=1173712221

http://www.rs6.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4761&stc=1&d=1173712221

JAXRS6
March 12th, 2007, 17:23
Where/how can I get a hard copy of DRC Deliverance quickly? I'd love to take it to Sebring on Saturday, to show AOA (as proof of the problem) as well as other RS6ers (as a potential fix for the problem).

Please let me know.!:idea: :idea: :idea:

rubyblack
March 12th, 2007, 17:46
Where/how can I get a hard copy of DRC Deliverance quickly? I'd love to take it to Sebring on Saturday, to show AOA (as proof of the problem) as well as other RS6ers (as a potential fix for the problem).

Please let me know.!:idea: :idea: :idea:


Hi matey, the people you should communicate to discuss getting yourself a hard copy of the magazine are the publishers:

Autometrix Publications,
Campion House,
1 Greenfield Road,
Westoning,
Bedfordshire
MK45 5JD
UK

Telephone number (UK) 0044 (0) 1525 750500

email: mail@autometrix.co.uk

Website; www.autometrix.co.uk

And the TT Shop website where the work is carried out is: www.thettshop.com (they might be able to assist with relevant info too)...

Good luck.....:dig:

rubyblack
March 12th, 2007, 17:57
Where/how can I get a hard copy of DRC Deliverance quickly? I'd love to take it to Sebring on Saturday, to show AOA (as proof of the problem) as well as other RS6ers (as a potential fix for the problem).

Please let me know.!:idea: :idea: :idea:


PM me with your e mail address and I will send you the article in printable full colour pdf format.....:0:

SAF
March 12th, 2007, 19:33
I have picked this mag up at Barnes and Noble.

Aronis
March 12th, 2007, 23:53
Great to see that kind of info in PRINT....

Also, was hoping it could be a DIY...I'm still planning on DIY...

Mike

BLITZEN
September 21st, 2007, 07:42
For those of you who've had DRC issues, I would appreciate your replies..

I'm wondering if my RS6 is suffering this fate. My symptoms aren't exactly like others have described (most say it's a clunk in the rear) so I'm not sure. Does this sound exactly like any of you?...

I hear and feel in my feet a loud and solid knock in the front of the car, like something is loose in the subframe and shifts from one position to another. It's not completely consistent and happens under various conditions and speeds including stiff braking and backing up while turning the wheel. It doesn't occur while cornering or from bumps in the road. The handling seems good, I haven't had any unexpected scary situations yet. However, I don't have anything to compare my ride to, since I've only owned it for 3 months and it's had the knock since I got it. When I took the car in for the 35k service, the tech couldn't figure it out and said everything looked good. And I have not been able to personally inspect the shocks.

I'm sure there's a possiblity my knock is DRC related. But I would feel better if no one said this sounded quite right, or if anyone has had these same symptoms for another problem. Thanks for your replies!
:mech:

ott
September 21st, 2007, 10:51
Could be also suspension arm, any repair shop can check that.

LIRS6
September 21st, 2007, 12:31
For those of you who've had DRC issues, I would appreciate your replies..

I'm wondering if my RS6 is suffering this fate. My symptoms aren't exactly like others have described (most say it's a clunk in the rear) so I'm not sure. Does this sound exactly like any of you?...

I hear and feel in my feet a loud and solid knock in the front of the car, like something is loose in the subframe and shifts from one position to another.... :mech:

Check the steering frame components - some have found loose bolts

SAF
September 21st, 2007, 14:40
Your description does not sound like any DRC failure symptoms I have heard of before. Ideas above are worth looking at.

Are you still under factory warranty? If yes, the clock is ticking on the 4 year end that would cover all DRC issues. If CPO is in place, suspension trouble is not usually covered.

More than likely your DRC will start leaking eventually, so you and your tech need to keep an eye out for leakage signs around shocks.

BLITZEN
November 21st, 2007, 06:26
Check the steering frame components - some have found loose bolts

This is exactly what the problem was. Shame is, it took me taking the car to TWO dealerships in order for it to be diagnosed. They weren't loose, they were GONE! Dave Strong Audi of Salt Lake couldn't see them missing apparently. I wouldn't recommend anyone go to them for anything!:doh:


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DuckWingDuck
November 21st, 2007, 06:39
ouch! :( At least you got that problem licked.

aarong
November 21st, 2007, 20:50
did you get this knocking when turning the steering wheel and/or changing gears? I get a very unnerving knock (thats increasing in frequency lately) at low speeds (esp when reversing) when changing gears and when turning greatly.

it happened before my DRC was replaced, and now it happens a lot more often three weeks after the DRC swap...so, definitely not the DRC

BLITZEN
November 21st, 2007, 21:29
aarong,
That sounds exactly like what mine was doing. One knock, under foot, - as if something was shifting position back and forth.
Mike

780z
February 11th, 2008, 18:25
Yes I have serious DRC issues too, at 21000miles 2004 the car bounces all over the place, skips at least 6 inches off line when you hit a small bump mid corner, and in one very high speed lane change under power the car lurched violently from side to side which at 160mph plus did not feel reassuring at all. Also what feels like the abs cutting in is often felt through the accelerator pedal even though the brakes are not being used. I am getting Bilstens fitted next week, and I think it is diabolical that Audi is ignoring this problem especially as many of us are out of warranty (UK - 3 years) the least audi should be doing is sorting out a deal with bilstein to replace the entire suspension for free, at least we would then be able to enjoy some of the suspension longevity our M series and AMG pals expect as standard.

jimfreem
February 11th, 2008, 20:24
Guys I have had the same problems on both of my RS6's,the only real and satisfactory solution is the replacement MTM fully ajustable suspension, a tad expensive but totally worth it for a completely trouble free fix which also has the benefits of manually adjusting the ride for track days!! a few bucks but if you can afford to run an RS6 then the cost is boys & thier TOYS !!
by the way I live in Dubai so the problem is made en more common due to tjhe excessive heat in the summer !! 45-57 degrees Good bit is it makes the tyres a bit more grippy !!

Aronis
February 12th, 2008, 01:05
Audi offered me a replacement of the RS6 shocks with shocks for the same model year S6.

Mike

Ps on my dime though. Perhaps a lot more than a dime.

jimfreem
February 12th, 2008, 06:59
Make sure that they are fully adjustable so you can vary the ride height so as to soften or harden the ride



Yes I have serious DRC issues too, at 21000miles 2004 the car bounces all over the place, skips at least 6 inches off line when you hit a small bump mid corner, and in one very high speed lane change under power the car lurched violently from side to side which at 160mph plus did not feel reassuring at all. Also what feels like the abs cutting in is often felt through the accelerator pedal even though the brakes are not being used. I am getting Bilstens fitted next week, and I think it is diabolical that Audi is ignoring this problem especially as many of us are out of warranty (UK - 3 years) the least audi should be doing is sorting out a deal with bilstein to replace the entire suspension for free, at least we would then be able to enjoy some of the suspension longevity our M series and AMG pals expect as standard.

gjg
February 12th, 2008, 10:37
I guess I'm lucky - 95k km and no problems .... did have the suspension pressure checked and pumped up a little last fall, because the dealer is (for a change) interested in customers and they did n/c shock test and pressurized the system to factory specs although the difference was not too much.

:thumb:

jpw2b
February 16th, 2008, 01:48
Blitzen...
This is pete...I think we checked out each other's cars at IMC this Fall.

My DRC is screwed up again! PRobalby going to go aftermarket...but the stasis/ohlins knocking issue is still unresolved. Thinking about Bilstein. I was going to go to the RS6 technician at Strong's...give me a call I'd love to lknow what your experience was! 599-9217

BobLeBuilder
February 27th, 2008, 17:07
FYI Having had DRC problems myself I spoke to an Audi dealer today as I'm about to order an RS. They said "the DRC has been redesigned and should no longer be an issue as of the last year of RS4 production".

Could be lip service from the dealer I suppose.

crispix
March 6th, 2008, 23:49
I have had my RS6 for a little over 3 weeks now.

At 43K miles I'm hearing the same "clunk" or banging underneath
the car on what appears to be the rear passenger side.

The drivers side is pretty smooth. When the passenger side hits
any bump or un-even surface ( roads suck here in california ) I
hear the noise.

It's damn annoying. Spent time in the truck making sure everything
was secure and that's fine..

The more i listen. the more I think it's coming from underneath the
car in the rear area..

It reminds me of the same sound you car would make if one of
your doors was not closed all the way and your putting along and
hit a bump and the door shakes.. maybe not as loud though..

Under CPO warranty but guess that's not a sure thing assuming this
is a DRC issue.

Going in next week for satellite install.. Any advice?

I have no idea whether my local delaer "Stevens Creek Audi" in San
Jose has experience with this..

They did a good job last week on a windshield install but that's kind of
a no brainer..

crispix..

Fonzie Audi
March 7th, 2008, 01:21
Mine sounds like a party is goin on down there. It's way worse than it was two weeks ago. I've got an appointment with Audi to check control arms/bushings under my CPO and KW V3's on the way (been waiting a week already, can't wait).

Hoping to shut everything up and ride smooth. Will post results.

Guiseppe

BobLeBuilder
March 10th, 2008, 16:32
I have had my RS6 for a little over 3 weeks now.

At 43K miles I'm hearing the same "clunk" or banging underneath
the car on what appears to be the rear passenger side.

The drivers side is pretty smooth. When the passenger side hits
any bump or un-even surface ( roads suck here in california ) I
hear the noise.

It's damn annoying. Spent time in the truck making sure everything
was secure and that's fine..

The more i listen. the more I think it's coming from underneath the
car in the rear area..

It reminds me of the same sound you car would make if one of
your doors was not closed all the way and your putting along and
hit a bump and the door shakes.. maybe not as loud though..

Under CPO warranty but guess that's not a sure thing assuming this
is a DRC issue.

Going in next week for satellite install.. Any advice?

I have no idea whether my local delaer "Stevens Creek Audi" in San
Jose has experience with this..

They did a good job last week on a windshield install but that's kind of
a no brainer..

crispix..

The way you describe it, it sounds like the DRC has gone, as that's basically what mine sounded like when it failed.

cornishmoocher
March 10th, 2008, 18:44
My DRC has gone, noticed a knocking from rear off side and front nearside, new straight away.
Took it to my Audi dealership, they confirmed it, booked it in for next monday, reserved me S4 cabrio for a loaner, AND all work to be done under the extended warranty! sooo glad I took that option out!

It lasted 5 years 45k miles, which is fairly good by the sound of it, but was kinda expecting it sooner or later.

DuckWingDuck
March 10th, 2008, 18:45
hmm, at 45k, your original warranty should still cover the repair. Either way, glad to hear that it's covered and sounds like you got a fun little ride for a loaner too!

cornishmoocher
March 10th, 2008, 18:50
hmm, at 45k, your original warranty should still cover the repair. Either way, glad to hear that it's covered and sounds like you got a fun little ride for a loaner too!

Bought a finance company warranty which took over after 3 years-best decision of my life!

Hy Octane
March 10th, 2008, 19:10
UK Warranty is only 3 years.. USA 4 yr 50k miles.

cornishmoocher
March 10th, 2008, 19:29
The car was 6 months old when i bought it, but i believe that uk is only 3 years standard warranty with the option to extend through Audi, but only open to buyers from new. I could be wrong on this tho. I am sure someone will put me right!

780z
January 29th, 2009, 13:03
It looks like Audi USA have finally decided to repair DRC on RS6 even outside warranty once they were threatened with legal proceedings since I see RS6's hopping about with DRC issues all the time isn't it time we got this thing sorted in the UK ?
I sent the email below off to Richard Paterson today
Hi Richard

Just a brief note to say that my 2004 RS6 with 23000miles on the clock out of warranty and has also got DRC problems, I reported this problem to Audi customer services in the middle of last year but as it is not a daily driver I have not got around to booking it in officially to an Audi dealer to have it properly diagnosed as I was considering going the KW route.
We all know DRC is shot and the car hops about very dangerously and makes all the tell tale noises, they did say they would consider making a contribution to the repairs once they get a dealers confirmation of the problem, my reply was I would expect Audi to fully pay for any repairs since it is obviously a design defect.

I would be happy to support any action necessary to adress this issue this would include a law suit

Regards

Andrew