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    Quote Originally Posted by fukinavit View Post
    Just another "spend a shit ton of money on a 6sp conversion", then sell it cos now I don't like manual.
    Yeah wonder why that is happening a lot. This car better suited for automatic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmnair View Post
    Yeah wonder why that is happening a lot. This car better suited for automatic?
    It's a running cliche that everyone sells their 6-speed shortly after getting it done. As someone who recently did the conversion, I have some thoughts:

    First, there are a people who are never "done" with a car, and if they get close to being "done", they get bored and sell it. I'm one of those people, and I've built several pretty cool cars (IMHO), but then sell them because I want to try something else.

    Second, you build a 6-speed RS6 because you love to DRIVE your car, but driving a modified RS6 a lot can be hard. Especially because you just made a bunch of modifications to your car, and mods can often mean more stuff breaks. I'm sure there are some dialed-in 6-speed cars out there, but you often hear about "95% complete" cars that have tuning/starter/clutch/etc... issues. It can be exhausting to get one of these conversions 100%, and sometimes people will give up. In my case, I don't like my clutch, and I'm having some boost issues that may require an engine drop again. I'm not looking forward to that.

    Finally, (and this one is kinda specific), you spend a lot of time and money to build your dream car, then go to the track and get absolutely spanked by a tuned S4 with an automatic. Then you drive your brothers new SS Camaro with a modern clutch and tranny that are butter-smooth and shift way better than your 15 year old transmission. Both of those people spent about as much as you did. Modern cars are just plain good and it's really hard to build an older car to compete. It's fun to try, and satisfying to have something unique, but that's about it.

    All that said, my car is not for sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreggPDX View Post
    It's a running cliche that everyone sells their 6-speed shortly after getting it done. As someone who recently did the conversion, I have some thoughts:

    First, there are a people who are never "done" with a car, and if they get close to being "done", they get bored and sell it. I'm one of those people, and I've built several pretty cool cars (IMHO), but then sell them because I want to try something else.

    Second, you build a 6-speed RS6 because you love to DRIVE your car, but driving a modified RS6 a lot can be hard. Especially because you just made a bunch of modifications to your car, and mods can often mean more stuff breaks. I'm sure there are some dialed-in 6-speed cars out there, but you often hear about "95% complete" cars that have tuning/starter/clutch/etc... issues. It can be exhausting to get one of these conversions 100%, and sometimes people will give up. In my case, I don't like my clutch, and I'm having some boost issues that may require an engine drop again. I'm not looking forward to that.

    Finally, (and this one is kinda specific), you spend a lot of time and money to build your dream car, then go to the track and get absolutely spanked by a tuned S4 with an automatic. Then you drive your brothers new SS Camaro with a modern clutch and tranny that are butter-smooth and shift way better than your 15 year old transmission. Both of those people spent about as much as you did. Modern cars are just plain good and it's really hard to build an older car to compete. It's fun to try, and satisfying to have something unique, but that's about it.

    All that said, my car is not for sale
    Well said
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreggPDX View Post
    It's a running cliche that everyone sells their 6-speed shortly after getting it done. As someone who recently did the conversion, I have some thoughts:

    First, there are a people who are never "done" with a car, and if they get close to being "done", they get bored and sell it. I'm one of those people, and I've built several pretty cool cars (IMHO), but then sell them because I want to try something else.

    Second, you build a 6-speed RS6 because you love to DRIVE your car, but driving a modified RS6 a lot can be hard. Especially because you just made a bunch of modifications to your car, and mods can often mean more stuff breaks. I'm sure there are some dialed-in 6-speed cars out there, but you often hear about "95% complete" cars that have tuning/starter/clutch/etc... issues. It can be exhausting to get one of these conversions 100%, and sometimes people will give up. In my case, I don't like my clutch, and I'm having some boost issues that may require an engine drop again. I'm not looking forward to that.

    Finally, (and this one is kinda specific), you spend a lot of time and money to build your dream car, then go to the track and get absolutely spanked by a tuned S4 with an automatic. Then you drive your brothers new SS Camaro with a modern clutch and tranny that are butter-smooth and shift way better than your 15 year old transmission. Both of those people spent about as much as you did. Modern cars are just plain good and it's really hard to build an older car to compete. It's fun to try, and satisfying to have something unique, but that's about it.

    All that said, my car is not for sale
    agreed, you pretty much hit the nail on head.

    although anyone that tracks the RS6 deserves to get spanked, it simply is not designed for that at all, unless its a 2 mile oval circuit!
    it was designed for high speed cruising and comfort. I think alot of the mods people do take away from that because its one thing that the RS6 does do so well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreggPDX View Post
    It's a running cliche that everyone sells their 6-speed shortly after getting it done. As someone who recently did the conversion, I have some thoughts:

    First, there are a people who are never "done" with a car, and if they get close to being "done", they get bored and sell it. I'm one of those people, and I've built several pretty cool cars (IMHO), but then sell them because I want to try something else.

    Second, you build a 6-speed RS6 because you love to DRIVE your car, but driving a modified RS6 a lot can be hard. Especially because you just made a bunch of modifications to your car, and mods can often mean more stuff breaks. I'm sure there are some dialed-in 6-speed cars out there, but you often hear about "95% complete" cars that have tuning/starter/clutch/etc... issues. It can be exhausting to get one of these conversions 100%, and sometimes people will give up. In my case, I don't like my clutch, and I'm having some boost issues that may require an engine drop again. I'm not looking forward to that.

    Finally, (and this one is kinda specific), you spend a lot of time and money to build your dream car, then go to the track and get absolutely spanked by a tuned S4 with an automatic. Then you drive your brothers new SS Camaro with a modern clutch and tranny that are butter-smooth and shift way better than your 15 year old transmission. Both of those people spent about as much as you did. Modern cars are just plain good and it's really hard to build an older car to compete. It's fun to try, and satisfying to have something unique, but that's about it.

    All that said, my car is not for sale

    I definitely agree very well said. For me, especially the part about "never being done". That's why for me, some cars I have and love, I just leave alone. And my RS6 is probably the quintessential example of. I mess around with vintage cars a lot, most specifically long hood / long nose 911s ('68-'73) and I have friends, dear friends, who are total experts in those cars to the point of having tools and knowledge to do rotisserie full restorations on their own… maybe short of motor builds… even tho its totally not for the $$ or their “business”, just the love and passion… or maybe a wife they don’t love so much and want to stay away from idk. And I can’t tell you the number of times one of those friends have said “I’m really going to keep this one” and they never do!! And I’ve told them plenty times, don’t you yourself realize yet that it’s the process, the chase, that keeps you in love? You’re never done!! And when you are it’s on to the next. But they are truly preserving history / automotive history so I don’t bitch too loud. That’s how it goes. C5 RS6s are ancient territory. While they’ll never get the love and cult following of a 911, I think it’s the same powers pulling on the heartstrings. I’d love to see and feel what a well sorted 6 speed would pull like, but what’s the point? That’s not how it was envisioned and built in its time and there are a million “more modern” things that would spank it in whatever format. But it’s still pretty bad ass and close to top of the foodchain…. Even if it has to pull its AARP card on occasion. .

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