I didnt look to see where the A4 was built but know that many factories are moving forward in Mexico to build NA content vehicles at a cheaper price. VW as well. It makes the bottom line fat. Never mind the metal content from Mexico. If the SQ5 is built in Mexico then I will not be a buyer. This is a forum and many off the cuff remarks will be made. We dont have the the full time job of researching Audi product just the money to buy what we wish.

As for blasphemy both my RS6s have the factory trans to this day. Both have the factory equipped torque converter as well. I really dont care about the tech gadgets and hardly look at my RNSE for directions. I buy them for the drive, build and lack of bling.

Time does march on and I have two low mileage RS6s in the garage. Audi has no sale and will continue to have no sale with the lack of product planning and appleal for this old boy. I'm more than happy with my two RS6s. If I dont buy another Audi that will be fine too.

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Look man, I'm just trying to give you some perspective. If you don't want to hear it, fine. But do me a favor and stop making assumptions about my relationship with Audi. Your statements suggest you don't know what you're talking about in regards to them or their process so I'm trying to give you some input so you can speak from a position of authority. If you don't agree with me then that's fine, but your arguments will only be stronger if they stand up against an educated viewpoint. Throwing out incorrect Mexican plant assumptions, mentioning lunches and Christmas gifts suggests to me you're doing that in lieu of a strong argument.

You want to talk about the Mexican plant? I know plenty. It's not yet open BTW and it's not even slated to build A4s. It is Q5 only (at least for now) and world production of that model so Germany, etc. get the same ones. There are market conditions for this choice and we highlighted them in-depth on my blog. I can summarize or provide a link if you wish.

This may sound like blasphemy, but hear me out before you say your worst. Your RS 6 versus the current S6? C5 was really not very good from a reliability standpoint and thus very costly for Audi on warranties. Ask another C5 owner whose blown his trans and they'll tell you. The C5 is too small today for C segment (B8 is same size) and stock for stock is faster in straight line, more dynamic in corners, a lion's share difference in material quality on the inside, worlds apart infotainment, etc. DSG is soooo much better than the C5's tiptronic, as is the new 8-speed Tip in the RS-spec cars and S8.

Sure, you can tune your C5. A C7 owner can tune theirs too and lots of luck when they do that. They'll still walk you on a drag strip or a track. As much as I like the C5 RS 6, time marches on. You can't expect it to keep up on all those factors. quattro GmbH has learned a LOT since the C5 era and it shows most in the handling dynamic of these new cars.

My best guess as to what the S6 lacks to the C5 for me and other enthusiasts has little if anything to do with performance. It lacks the RS badge, the flares and the exclusivity. It's too much of a sleeper for someone drawn to an RS. I'll give you that it's also softer than an RS, but still will out handle a C5 RS 6.

Again, just my opinion. I've never owned a C5 RS 6, but I have spent time in one. Same goes for the new C7 cars, though I have not yet driven the C7 RS cars yet.