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    Reality check.....drove Motor Trend's Car of the year.

    So I had the chance to drive a new Cadillac CTS AWD....Motor Trend Car of the year for 2014. I was on my way home from work and they offered me 4 ski passes to Deer Valley for the opportunity. The car was really nice...impressive build quality....sticker just over 60k......then I started it up.....

    OMG.....I'll put a new trans in the RS every 2 years to keep from driving that POS....steering wheel quality sucked.....this is the thing you have to touch in any car EVERY time you are in it........drivetrain was noisy and unresponsive......and for 60k+??

    Just had to share....

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    ^What he said---
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    Thanks for the report. Amazing how poor some fancy new cars shift/handle. It seems they're just selling on marketing and fancy interiors and electronics.

    Now....I did just get a 2010 Ram Laramie, really nice interior and leather seats (basically a Mercedes interior). Shifts pretty good too, and not too slow for a 400hp truck that weighs 6,250lbs. Serious power steering really looses touch with the road, but makes it easy to drive a big truck...

    And...the 2010 C63 AMG I drove last year had a horrid interior, steering so so, good shifting. But still amazing what we have in a 2003 car.

    There's an NSX in town, mint, 25,000 miles, $75,000 dollars, yep. Wonder if our cars will ever bounce back once the numbers get lower....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lswing View Post
    There's an NSX in town, mint, 25,000 miles, $75,000 dollars, yep. Wonder if our cars will ever bounce back once the numbers get lower....
    That's a host of $$ for that car. What year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigglezworth View Post
    That's a host of $$ for that car. What year?
    Garage queen....I should go look at it, just down the street...4k miles....

    If the link above doesn't work, please copy this link into your browser.
    http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=97405&endYear=2015&modelCode1=NSX&showcaseOwnerId=573742&startYear=1981&makeCode1=ACURA&searchRadius=200&mmt=[ACURA[NSX[]][]]&listingId=365689118
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    I'm guessing that Cadillac is shooting for the "I've made a dollar .....I don't know where I am....and I need to charge my cell phone" crowd. Electronics were way cool....car sucked.

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    20k more and you have a brand new S6

    I will put transmissions in both my RS6s every other year before I take the keys of any Caddy.

    Hell, #1 is on the factory trans to this day.

    Quote Originally Posted by 905084 View Post
    So I had the chance to drive a new Cadillac CTS AWD....Motor Trend Car of the year for 2014. I was on my way home from work and they offered me 4 ski passes to Deer Valley for the opportunity. The car was really nice...impressive build quality....sticker just over 60k......then I started it up.....

    OMG.....I'll put a new trans in the RS every 2 years to keep from driving that POS....steering wheel quality sucked.....this is the thing you have to touch in any car EVERY time you are in it........drivetrain was noisy and unresponsive......and for 60k+??

    Just had to share....

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    Agreed on many of the cars out there. I have to have a truck for work so usually get a new one every 5 or so years... now I am also a performance enthusiast so my 2010 Dodge 1500 has a blower on it... it may have shifted fine before my "upgrades" but the 550 HP that it has killed the factory tranny and 2 upgraded transmissions before it got it dialed. It is certainly not a replacement for my car but it is quite entertaining showing GT Mustangs and SS Camaro's my tail lights... and although my RS6 is great in the snow the truck if far better (IMO)...

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    It truely is sad when $60k can't buy you a solid car.

    Off-Topic - drove the RS6 this AM, cause I had an itch. Icy cold air helped get that itch to go away...
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    I have driven a CTS-V (Speedtrapped) and can tell you that with the exception of only having rwd, it outperformed our cars in every other aspect.
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    Yea, my brother has a CTS-V, it's an absolute monster compared to our car, but you can't get the power down (he does have a manual though making it more difficult).

    But back to original poster, did you drive a VSport version? If so, I'd be surprised. Nevermind, just edited my post with this, you didn't because you said it was AWD, so 2.0T or V6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmb408 View Post
    Yea, my brother has a CTS-V, it's an absolute monster compared to our car, but you can't get the power down (he does have a manual though making it more difficult).

    But back to original poster, did you drive a VSport version? If so, I'd be surprised. Nevermind, just edited my post with this, you didn't because you said it was AWD, so 2.0T or V6?
    It was the V-6....321 supposed hp......not impressed. I'm guessing more like 275. I'm sure the CTS-V is great, but for 1/10th the money, I could put 700hp in my Kenny Brown Crown Vic and have stupid fun on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmb408 View Post
    Yea, my brother has a CTS-V, it's an absolute monster compared to our car, but you can't get the power down (he does have a manual though making it more difficult).
    My brothers supercharged M5 is like that...650hp, traction is a bitch. I assume your car isn't modified? Caddy stock shouldn't be that much more....
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    No my car is plenty modded (milltek dp's, cat back, OcT, etc.). I just feel like the caddy is more violent than ours, likely due to the RWD and the steering being softer, we always forget how heavy our steering is and the AWD power laydown makes it even more so.

    Quote Originally Posted by lswing View Post
    My brothers supercharged M5 is like that...650hp, traction is a bitch. I assume your car isn't modified? Caddy stock shouldn't be that much more....
    Back to this whole thread through, folks let's step back for a second, as some have tried to do but not fully done. OUR CAR WAS NEAR 90K NEW AND SOME PAID MORE. That was 11 years ago! So let's call inflation 2% for argument's sake, which means our car would be 109,710 today!!! You can't compare cars with nearly 50 grand delta price. That 50 grand gets you more space, carbon fiber bits, etc. And yes to the other people's comments about our car just being a simpler time for cars, couldn't agree more. I had a 2014 A4 shop car the other day. That electronic steering is horrid and it is so soft and the 2.0T just gets lost in that 8 spd (puke).

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    Cadillac used to have little (lame) ducks on their emblem ... and for a good reason ...

    Shame on GM from attempting to stray from the normal.
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    About $10k too high for that car
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    They got it on trade in a few weeks back...guessing they would take $65k, going to be tough to move, but we do get a good amount of college kids with big $$$ around here.
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    I'm guessing the new 8 spd auto they developed for the new Z06 will trickle down to other models (in various torque ratings) soon. It's supposed to be the best trans GM has made yet... we'll see.
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