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    RS6 vs. M5

    Has anyone actually raced the "old" 400hp M5 against their RS6 at different speeds. Reason being, I used to own a stock M5 and it honestly feels faster than the RS6, yet most magazines say the rs6 does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds while the m5 does about 5 flat.

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    When the Rs6 was brand new we raced an M5 vs. an RS6.
    Rolling start, standing start etc. The RS6 is faster until you reach (much) higher speeds. From a stand still the M5 should not have much of a chance. I think above 160-180 km/h it would be harder.

    http://www.track-challenge.com/main_...r1=53%26Car2=3

    RS6 is faster up to 200 km/h. I would guess the M5 would reach 250 km/h faster. On the other hand Audi made the RS6 to beat the benchmark at the time, the M5.

    There should be a video called "Tribute to the RS6" that I made.
    Does anybody have it still?



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    Originally posted by Erik

    There should be a video called "Tribute to the RS6" that I made.
    Does anybody have it still?
    Upping right now...

    Edit: link can be found here.
    Last edited by freerider; August 24th, 2005 at 13:00.

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    M5 vs RS6 in a Championship

    Hi,
    in Italy we can see the challenge on track! You know the Italian Superstars Championship?!
    check it out!



    http://www.eurosuperstars.com/
    Last edited by maurizio; August 24th, 2005 at 14:00.

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    Originally posted by AMG EATR
    Has anyone actually raced the "old" 400hp M5 against their RS6 at different speeds.
    yes, few times, older M5 is slower below 200 kph, between 200-250 is pretty close, but no cigar ...

    This is with stock +. Keep in mind that most of the time is not car but the driver ....

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    My dad has an M5, but we have not raced LOL...

    Where can you race and not get arrested these days!

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    I have both cars, but neither is stock. RS 6 has just a cat back exhaust, but the M5 has 3.45 gears, Dinan CAI, software etc. I would give the nod to the RS 6 assuming a good launch. But its going to be a driver's race..........however add rain or snow and its no longer a driver's race.

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    Originally posted by Erik

    And...welcome to the gang! Please post pics!

    Yes, welcome!
    Always good to see another owner on board

    As others have said, RS 6 is quicker from standstill. I do know what you mean about the feel though. Although I've never owned a M5, I've driven them a couple of times and I think it's the manual tranny and the shifting that leads to the faster impression. The RS 6 is just so smooth that the speed is VERY deceptive, whereas in the M5, you KNOW you are going fast!

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    Thanks for the videos. Yes, the rs6 is very smoot so it probably could feel slower.

    Has anyone raced the new 997S. I would imagine this would be a very close race. It would be amazing if a four door sedan could outperform porsches latest coupe. I bet a MTM rs6 would take it but I wonder if a stock could.

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    Originally posted by AMG EATR
    Thanks for the videos. Yes, the rs6 is very smoot so it probably could feel slower.

    Has anyone raced the new 997S. I would imagine this would be a very close race. It would be amazing if a four door sedan could outperform porsches latest coupe.
    No, a 997S will outperform the RS 6 in every way (that is except when it comes to hauling around the family and groceries ).

    The RS 6 CAN hold it's own against a standard 996, but not the 997S.

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    Car&Driver May 2004 (mph):

    E39 M5

    0-100 11.5s
    0-150 29.2s


    RS6 sedan (US spec)

    0-100 10.7s
    0-150 30.9s


    Evo February 2003 (mph)

    E39 M5

    0-100 11.5s
    0-140 23.8s


    RS6 avant

    0-100 11.6s
    0-140 26.2s


    No question - auto tranny and AWD mean plenty of parasitic loss at speeds where it counts!
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    Re: RS6 vs. M5

    Originally posted by AMG EATR
    Has anyone actually raced the "old" 400hp M5 against their RS6 at different speeds. Reason being, I used to own a stock M5 and it honestly feels faster than the RS6, yet most magazines say the rs6 does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds while the m5 does about 5 flat.

    Dan
    Dear AMG EATR

    I am currently looking for an RS6 Avant in the UK having had an E39 M5 for 4 years and then a 740i sport for a short time (doing some seriuous freeway motoring at the moment).

    Can yoiu give me a heads up on the RS6 and a comparison. I will rpobably be looking for a model around 2 years old (stock) with maybe 20-30K miles on the clock
    shimmy


    no longer looking for an RS6 Avant, got one.

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    Originally posted by Aronis
    My dad has an M5, but we have not raced LOL...

    Where can you race and not get arrested these days!

    Mike
    there are places .....

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    Shimmy,

    It is hard to compare as I had the M5 to years ago and now have porsche turbo as weekend car so I really lost feeling of M5. If I rember right, RS6 feels slower because its auto and has VERY smooth acceleration and shifts while M5 is a little jerkier and more fun to shift. If this is a daily driver, RS6 is best anser. If RS6 was stick, I would say RS6 all the time but M5 is a bit more fun to drive with a manual than rs6. A chipped rs6 would murder the m5 maybe even the new one and most exotic cars on the road. YOu should really just test drive the car.

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    Test drive booked for Tuesday with a dealer, although this car has too many miles for me to buy.

    Thanks for the comparison
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    no longer looking for an RS6 Avant, got one.

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    Seems like it would be kinda hard to actually"Feel" the difference of .5 sec to 60...
    I mean, think about how fast half a second really is.. maybe a car length at 60mph?

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    Originally posted by SouthshoreRS6
    however add rain or snow and its no longer a driver's race.
    Maybe you're right about the snow (not that the M5 - or any other RWD car for that matter - is useless in the snow), but in the rain, it's still a driver's race.



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    That's an oft-quoted article by BMW enthusiasts. And just maybe it applies to the snow as well. I am amazed at how much more enjoyable and easy to drive my wife's 330i is compared to my (gone but not forgotten) TT in the snow. The TT with its relatively heavy nose, FWD Haldex bias and laggy turbo was very difficult to drive cleanly through corners. With the 330, just turn in, flex right foot, and ride out the oversteer.

    With the RS6, the front weight bias is less of an issue in snow, as power oversteer is laughably easy.
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