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    Is this guy for real?? "Chipped" RS6 vs. E46 M3??

    Which one of you guys is in South Africa who can't launch an AWD automatic??

    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=299583
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    Re: Is this guy for real?? "Chipped" RS6 vs. E46 M3??

    Originally posted by Improviz
    Which one of you guys is in South Africa who can't launch an AWD automatic??

    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=299583
    What a shame
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    prob. he was in Drive, TCS on, and with no torquebraking

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    Read his post further...

    Reading further down this post you will see that the M3 driver has this to say about the RS6 in the video:
    The RS6 belongs to a very close friend of mine & he's a very good driver. He has an 11.1 Ford Escort Cosworth as well.

    His RS6 is in NO WAY in the league of my car. We go to a lot of places together & IN ANY GEAR at ANY SPEED under ANY CONDITIONS he murders me. There is no contest & neither did I ever say it was.

    On that day his car was slow due to the conditions (as we all were) but he has run 12.7 @ 116 before here at 5500ft elevation. I don't know what that translates into sea-level times but I guess its high 11's or 12 dead for a 2-tonne 4-door family car. I have driven it & it is awesome.

    There are complications with launching an automatic turbo car up at high altitude. There isn't enough air pressure to build boost as quickly as at sea-level. As a result boost only comes on at around 2500rpm. At sea-level he's on boost at 1800rpm.

    Now, one can only brake torque up to around 2500rpm, & depending on the ambient conditions he may or may not come off the line on boost. If he doesn't (like in the 2nd video) then I am ahead for a while. It doesn't matter 'cos he runs me down quickly anyway even with the worst launch.

    I will try to get him online to comment, but just remember that in no way am I saying my car is comparable to his.

    also posted results where the same RS6 beat E55...
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    Yeah I'd like to see that RS6 beating e55. E55 owners all think RS6 is slower even modified because it "FEELS" like it's slower.....
    As said by one of the previous RS6 owner.
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    Pfff... MB owners... If they knew any better they wouldn't be driving MB's in the first place...

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    Originally posted by audirs6sport
    Yeah I'd like to see that RS6 beating e55. E55 owners all think RS6 is slower even modified because it "FEELS" like it's slower.....
    As said by one of the previous RS6 owner.
    Not trying to start anything but when I had my modded RS6, I got walked by a stock E55 on the highway. We all know the RS6 is going to beat just about any car off the line due to traction.

    I sold my RS6, no because I got walked by an E55, I could care less, but biggest factor was the dated interior design ( I thought the current A6s were going to be sold late last year), the NAV was just horrible and car was starting to have issues.

    The RS6, I can honestly say was a better overall car to drive in terms of "overall" package. The E55 is just cleary faster in a straight line. Doesn't really matter to me that RS5 or E55 does this and that in the 1/4 mile. I had to sell the car due to my 1 year old son at the time (he loves getting tossed around now, he's 2) would constantly cry due to stiffness and exhaust tone. I blame myself for both issues since I added 19s and Miltek exhaust, which didn't help matters.

    The new A6's look HOT and if the RS6 is anywhere near I would be in another RS6 again (assuming it has turbos since they would have great modding potential).

    Yes, I drive an E55 now and yes handling SUCKS, but it gets the job done for me in terms of taking me around town. The RS6 had better fit and finish inside than my E55. Braking is about the same although the E has too much assistance, handling we all know which is far better.

    I'm currently looking for another RS6 as my daily driver if anyone is selling theirs.

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    Originally posted by Avus_RS6 - E55

    I had to sell the car due to my 1 year old son at the time (he loves getting tossed around now, he's 2) would constantly cry due to stiffness and exhaust tone.


    Now that is concerning, my second son is due in two weeks....I'm not selling my RS6....

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    I guess we need to redefine the term meaning of "faster" vs "quicker" IMC (in my chapter) quicker = acceleration, faster = top speed. Anyone disagree? Throw in comments if you'd like because alot of times when two or more people are having a discussion, it always seems like one guy does not take the same word in same meaning as the other person. Eventually, they just end up arguing like no other. Just my 2 cents.
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    I agree with your def's

    Faster = higher top end

    Quicker = higher acceloration ability...

    O-60 time is never the whole story....

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    Well M&M/M3/I8A4RE is at it again....

    The RS6 on the video is supposed to have been modified, but it never runs 100%. The fact that he cannot built up his revs to more than 1800 rpm, proves to me that there is problems with that car.
    I had the same mod on my RS6 and eventually had everything put back to standard, as the car wasn't any faster than standard, in fact it was slower.

    I had a dice with M&M/.... and I left him for dead, and when that happened my RS6 was stock standard and we were two in the car and one of my air intake was abit blocked with bird feathers. Furthermore I have no problem building up revs to 2400 rpm. It takes abit of time though.

    At the same place as the video was taken

    At another track

    Both instances the RS6 was stock.

    I must say though that M&M/M.... can launch his M3 pretty well
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    one of my air intake was abit blocked with bird feathers
    AVDH,

    Aren't you supposed to limit your hunting to other vehicles, not wildlife? LOL

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    Seems the altitude is a big enemy.

    I've done 14.665 secs in my old A6 2.7T MTM with tiptronic (just above sea level.)

    0 - 200 km/h times for M3s are supposed to be around 17-18 secs...not 21 secs.

    Nice to see the at the top of the Hill

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    Andre, long time no see. How you doing?

    I don't know what this punk Improviz is trying to achieve by posting this. He's in the US so he doesn't know me or Gert.

    I have huge respect for the RS6 & I just posted the videos where its plain to see I get beaten every time. I raced Gert 4 times & every time I knew I was going to get mauled. But Gert's my friend & we race for fun. You know I'll even race you even though I know I'll get whipped.

    And its plain to see that in no way did I ever say my car is close to an RS6. Its just some videos of 2 buddies racing on a track.

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    M&M, the reason I'm posting it is to alert people here of your trolling.

    For those of you unfamiliar with M&M, he's a habitual troll who has been trolling Audiworld's S4 forums for over three years, the South Africa Audi Club for over two, and has now taken to trolling at MBworld.

    His method of operation is as follows:

    1) post any magazine article coming out which reflects favorably on BMW, particularly if/when it's a comparo w/ Audi/Mercedes (depending upon forum);

    2) post "kill stories" of his crushing Audi/Mercedes, and/or runs (like the one here) of him getting in a good run against someone else's lousy run;

    3) post derogatory statements about the brand of whichever forum he's trolling;

    4) use deceptive means (cherry picked articles using the fastest test from BMW, the slowest from Audi/Mercedes, incorrect or inaccurate data, etc.) to establish (in his mind) BMW's "superiority".

    This is followed by arguing ad infinitum, insults and/or personal attacks against members, etc...

    Here is a post wherein I investigated and established his multi-year trolling campaign:

    A perfect example of his deceptive posting style can be seen in the videos of his runs versus the RS6, as posted here at Bimmerforums.com (even they banned him!). Note that he does not state that the RS6 had problems, or was poorly driven, until prodded; he simply posted the videos without comment, as though *he*, not driver error, was responsible for the victory; only after prodding does he admit that under normal conditions, the car would smoke him.

    Here are some more examples of his trolling the S4 forum and the MBworld forums:
    http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/139085.phtml

    http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85230

    http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/138861.phtml

    http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=84112

    http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65738

    http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=82833

    http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/139084.phtml

    http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/144454.phtml

    http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/139129.phtml

    http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=84215

    In this post, I busted him lying about using drag radials on his car, and established his history of trolling the South Africa Audi Forum--for over two years.

    Anyway, he is, without a doubt, one of the strangest trolls I've ever seen. For a grown man to engage in nothing but intentionally starting flamefests for a period of years is, quite simply, bizarre behavior no matter how you measure it.

    Unfortunately, he has followed me here. My apologies...I sincerely hope he doesn't start trolling your boards too!!
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    I can't see that M&M killed anyone important in this video.
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    Originally posted by Aronis
    Now that is concerning, my second son is due in two weeks....I'm not selling my RS6....

    Mike

    Wow Congrats!!! My second son is due around the same time as yours!

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    Say Improviz, if you have a problem with me, why are you wasting these RS6 owners bandwidth?

    Have I ever stated that I beat an RS6? So why you wasting everyone's time here?

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