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    Mike show me which pipe on the way, I managed to remove egr. Sorry no more photos with me at work.
    What do you mean CCT part # is newer?



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    AndyRS6,

    That kit is perfect!! Thank you for the link. I was surprised they did not have the cam chains also, so I had to order from Pelican.
    That kit is pretty complete.

    He was able to get the valve cover off without dropping the engine so that is good.

    I am going to trust his judgement on the rest of the CCT as it fully tested out electronically.

    The only way to check those cam guides is to REMOVE THEM LOL. You can't see much of their surface in place.

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    That PIPE LOL,

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    The part number for the original equipment ends with an E or C, the replacement part P. The ones in the car are marked with the P.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronis View Post
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    The part number for the original equipment ends with an E or C, the replacement part P. The ones in the car are marked with the P.


    Mike
    Then how come your pad looks so bad after 20k miles, the one you took a picture of. What side is it, and top or bottom.


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    I've replaced three sets of pads on three separate engines and in each instance, the top pads were worn much more than the bottom pads...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRS6 View Post
    Then how come your pad looks so bad after 20k miles, the one you took a picture of. What side is it, and top or bottom.


    Andriy
    I D O N ' T G E T E I T H E R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The piece that came out was a bottom pad, the top two, in photo above appear intact end to end.

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    At least the patient isn't on bypass during this process.

    I don't think even Peiserg could keep her going this long

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    Confirmed.....they were NOT changed at 127,000.....


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    You definitely need new chain, and CCT.


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    Went with Audi part, $712 each, picking them up Saturday....

    Mike

    Next problem, it gets parted out.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRS6 View Post
    You definitely need new chain, and CCT.


    Andriy

    LOL, I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BURN>>>>>> 1500 more.......plus labor.....god dam....burn.......
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    A major blunder on the techs part when this engine was just out.

    You even had the pieces in the oil pan. The pad was already coming apart

    i can't believe they didn't inspect both sides. It's almost unbelievable




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    Confirmed.....they were NOT changed at 127,000.....


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    I have looked at the posts "What should I change when the engine is out."

    The CCT must be changed at 100k period. This should be in the Audi manual.

    It is the same setup in the V8's and V6's.

    I am glad that photos are posted here. I wish I had seen one like it 6 months ago.

    My understanding is that the BMW Double Vanos system uses METAL ON METAL gears. I am going to learn more since I am curious.

    I hope to have all the parts in my mechanics hands on Monday, and hopefully the car will be back on the road on Friday.

    I am selling it once it is running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronis View Post

    I am selling it once it is running.

    Mike

    LOL..no one likes a quitter....oh wait....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHall1 View Post
    A major blunder on the techs part when this engine was just out.

    You even had the pieces in the oil pan. The pad was already coming apart

    i can't believe they didn't inspect both sides. It's almost unbelievable
    I echo this 100%. It pains me to see a post like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aronis View Post
    LOL, I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BURN>>>>>> 1500 more.......plus labor.....god dam....burn.......
    The amount of labour to perform this work when your tech was overhauling everything else was significantly less than what you are being faced with now. If I was placed in this position, I would be looking for goodwill on the delta between the two situations. It amounts to a a fair bit of time when you consider you need to put the car into service position, remove timing belt, and remove valve covers which were all performed priorhand as part of their initial service. As Dave states, this is a total miss on their end and some ownership on that would be the responsible thing to do.
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    I'm getting ready to pull engine in mine foremost to replace blown Trans with very low mi. Tozo rebuild I got from forum member doing manual swap. Trans has been toast for half a yr. With car sitting and occasionally started and brought to op. Temps for good measure and replacement Trans been sitting many months too. So I've been collecting lists, parts for what all to do - I know engine has never been out - car has 95k mi.s and well maintained but slightly weeping valve covers etc. I def. Had CCT pads on the list but should I be contemplating the units themselves? I'm really not too keen on dumping 1.4k in unneeded parts OR causing probs that don't exist (I'm one of those guys who "preventatively" changed Trans fluid and filter only to have implosion 500 mi.s later but we'll never 100% know that cause and effect nexus) AND I'm not trying to end up hating this car like so many others have spent themselves into doing. It just one of many hobbyist collector type cars I have but it's a really cool unique and clean sedan that I really like. Any opinions to try and help save me from myself are greatly appreciated.

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    #6 is sitting out in the back garage. We're moving in a couple of weeks and then I have plans for the ol Misano beast. Lol.

    I just put 40 miles on #1 today and plan to drive it to work tomorrow. Puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I pity the fool in a cls550 at the random stoplight. Hehe

    I started #2 and ran it up to temp today as well. I can't wait to get moved and into my new man cave shop. You better watch out idjuits.






    Quote Originally Posted by ttboost View Post
    LOL..no one likes a quitter....oh wait....

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