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    I noticed I've got that "weird wear" problem on my rotors, and combined with a noticeable lip I going to replace them.
    so here's my question, I've seen people are running frozen rotors, are these substantially better? I noticed they are $419 for the fronts and $415 for the backs. is it better to buy from someone else and have them sent to frozen rotors? are there other good options for rotors?

    also it looks like the Hawk HPS pads are the best way to go for general driving so I'm planning on those.

    while I've got it torn down i want to replace the DRC before i have problems, and i'm thinking about koni struts with stock springs. thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwade View Post
    While I've got it torn down i want to replace the DRC before i have problems, and i'm thinking about koni struts with stock springs. thoughts?
    Next to the $125 for a MTM TCU upgrade, gutting the DRC and investing $700 in Koni Yellow Sport struts is one of the best "bang-for-buck" changes one can make to this car... IMHO
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    Not sure if anyone else has had their rotors frozen, but I did.

    I purchased new OEM rotors from Genuine, and stupidly had them sent to my house! I should have had them dropshipped to Frozen Rotors in WI or MN, as it would have saved on shipping back/forth.
    The process is "rotors in hand" at FrozenRotors, load into freezer on Friday, cycle temps up/down as low as -60F for three days, ship out to your location via ground.
    Transit time is the killer as it takes just about two weeks as transportation is by ground = slow.

    I was really nervous about sending out $700+ in RS6 rotors so I insured it for $1k.

    Now the bedding process was not fun.
    I installed EBC Reds and initially after scoring off the wear coat, the bite was fine.
    Then came the bite into the rotors and they howled like a pig for 600+ miles = it was really loud!
    Solution was to make strong moderate decelerations from 100 - 50 at least 4-5 times.

    I am happy with the rotors
    I am not happy with the EBC Red, as they have been proven to melt/destroy themselves with anything other than pussyfoot driving...

    Not sure you will need to mess with the rear rotors being frozen...
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    Just sent mine to frozen today. I had intended to do it a few weeks ago and things got busy. Anywho, I didn't want to do it til I got the phaeton ducts anyway, so I would have waited anyway.

    I think they do it for 58 bucks a rotor.
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    Don't want to turn this into a coilover thread, but I am in the same boat. Probably going to get another set of wheels and tires (FINALLY!!!) this Friday and I want to do the DRC delete also, while I am here. I have been also looking at the Koni (thanks 4.2crew), but I also spotted a couple of cheaper alternatives. Not to be penny wise, just sayin...
    H&R makes a set($1300), and the ST coilover (Made by KW in the same factory?) They are only about $1000? Anyone try these? Obviously you can't find anything for the RS6, so I looked under A6, 4.2. I think it was determined that they are the same chassis?
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    I've been looking at the JHM rotors for better cooling, might have them shipped to frozen, still would like to hear more.

    Hawk hps pads are good, and the Koni Yellows are great for $700, thanks 4.2crew! Stock springs, Koni's on low, car sits nice and even...
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    Noticed a new issue today, outsides and middles on my tires are good, but the insides are shot! Like down to the fibers. The previous owner was running falken fk452 tires and they are crap! The one came apart on me today which led me to discover how bad they were...it looks like a lot of people are running the Michelin PSS, so unless anyone has a better suggestion I believe that is where I'm headed.
    C5 RS6 - Daytona Grey/Silver, Carbon Fiber, RNS-E, O.CT ECU/TCU, O.CT hose kit, full Miltek exhaust, Koni struts, Frozen rotors/Hawk HPS pads, 19" C6 style rims/PSS 255/35ZR19 - 37k miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwade View Post
    Noticed a new issue today, outsides and middles on my tires are good, but the insides are shot! Like down to the fibers. The previous owner was running falken fk452 tires and they are crap! The one came apart on me today which led me to discover how bad they were...it looks like a lot of people are running the Michelin PSS, so unless anyone has a better suggestion I believe that is where I'm headed.

    Remember inner tire wear is a result of incorrect Camber and not bad tires. So before you spend big money on Michelin's I would look into a proper wheel alignment first. If the Car is lowered sometimes the factory spec camber is unattainable unless you have adjustable upper links. Just food for thought....
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    Yeah well I'll be getting it aligned when I switch to the koni's, which will be soon as I ordered them yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwade View Post
    Noticed a new issue today, outsides and middles on my tires are good, but the insides are shot! Like down to the fibers. The previous owner was running falken fk452 tires and they are crap! The one came apart on me today which led me to discover how bad they were...it looks like a lot of people are running the Michelin PSS, so unless anyone has a better suggestion I believe that is where I'm headed.
    Wade had the 452's in 19" and had them fail at low speed (which is rare for him to be driving so slow).

    PSS!!! They are my next summer tires, Blizzaks are the next purchase
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwade View Post
    Noticed a new issue today, outsides and middles on my tires are good, but the insides are shot! Like down to the fibers. The previous owner was running falken fk452 tires and they are crap! The one came apart on me today which led me to discover how bad they were...it looks like a lot of people are running the Michelin PSS, so unless anyone has a better suggestion I believe that is where I'm headed.
    If either the inside OR outside is worn and the middle of the tire is fine, thats a camber problem.

    If both the inside and outside are worn and the middle is fine, the tires were run under inflated.

    If both the inside and outside of the tires are fine and the middle is worn(sounds like what you were getting at), then the tires were run over inflated.

    Still i would recommend PSS's highly.
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    while the car was on the lift getting new rubbers i noticed my CV axles are no bueno. fortunately i can save some on labor since next week I'm already scheduled to replace brakes and DRC. hits just keep coming! glad i got my S4 sold so i have an extra bit of cash to spend! lol
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    C5 RS6 - Daytona Grey/Silver, Carbon Fiber, RNS-E, O.CT ECU/TCU, O.CT hose kit, full Miltek exhaust, Koni struts, Frozen rotors/Hawk HPS pads, 19" C6 style rims/PSS 255/35ZR19 - 37k miles

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    Koni's and brakes have arrived! Once I get the raxles in a couple of days then everything will get installed! Now thinking about getting some OEM 19" rims (http://www.ebay.com/itm/280879615350...84.m1423.l2649) thoughts?
    C5 RS6 - Daytona Grey/Silver, Carbon Fiber, RNS-E, O.CT ECU/TCU, O.CT hose kit, full Miltek exhaust, Koni struts, Frozen rotors/Hawk HPS pads, 19" C6 style rims/PSS 255/35ZR19 - 37k miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwade View Post
    Koni's and brakes have arrived! Once I get the raxles in a couple of days then everything will get installed! Now thinking about getting some OEM 19" rims (http://www.ebay.com/itm/280879615350...84.m1423.l2649) thoughts?
    I was looking at those same wheels. Would love to see what they look like on your car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdave View Post
    I was looking at those same wheels. Would love to see what they look like on your car!
    Haha making me the guinea pig eh? I see how it is! Well I'm probably at least month from ordering them. But I think they will look awesome! My only decision is if I want the black or if I want the silver to kinda match mirrors and trim...
    C5 RS6 - Daytona Grey/Silver, Carbon Fiber, RNS-E, O.CT ECU/TCU, O.CT hose kit, full Miltek exhaust, Koni struts, Frozen rotors/Hawk HPS pads, 19" C6 style rims/PSS 255/35ZR19 - 37k miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdave View Post
    I was looking at those same wheels. Would love to see what they look like on your car!
    Wrong hubcentric...so need adapter I believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwade View Post
    Koni's and brakes have arrived! Once I get the raxles in a couple of days then everything will get installed! Now thinking about getting some OEM 19" rims (http://www.ebay.com/itm/280879615350...84.m1423.l2649) thoughts?

    $639 for a set of 4 Wheels. I would really question the quality of same. Especially to be placed on a $80,000+ 450hp+ Automobile. Lets get serious now...........................
    03 RS6, VIPER ECU, MTM TCU, Milltek Full Catless Non Res setup from Turbos to the boxes(ROAR'S), H&R Coilovers, Hotchkiss ARB's, 19x10's with 275-30-19 PSS's at each corner, Kenwood 9960 Head unit, V1 Radar Locator. 517 Trans Rebuild, ScrollProducts Turbo Rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevens View Post
    $639 for a set of 4 Wheels. I would really question the quality of same. Especially to be placed on a $80,000+ 450hp+ Automobile. Lets get serious now...........................
    Thats just the OEM style I want, and it was the first listing I found...when I get ready to buy ill make sure that I get actual OEM rims...
    C5 RS6 - Daytona Grey/Silver, Carbon Fiber, RNS-E, O.CT ECU/TCU, O.CT hose kit, full Miltek exhaust, Koni struts, Frozen rotors/Hawk HPS pads, 19" C6 style rims/PSS 255/35ZR19 - 37k miles

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