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    So Paris auto show...?

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    Great news that they finally got an agreement on the figures! Eventhough it's not really of any beneficiary for us at this moment....

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    Very great news. Bring it on!

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    so bmw m5 will have hard times soon

    Qisha,what about the new "S diesel" model vs M550dx?official info next month?thanks

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    Hey Qisha, that is the best news. Well done, Audi!

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    it most def better go on sale soon. the only way audi can curtail M5 sales is with on time arrival of the RS6. it will definitely be brought to market in the US. if they don't they lose. if audi is smart they'll introduce it in new york next month.
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    The figures are as follows;

    Hp: 560
    0-100: 4.1 sec.

    But where is the RS7, which would be my first choice ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S6V10Avant View Post
    The figures are as follows;

    Hp: 560
    0-100: 4.1 sec.

    But where is the RS7, which would be my first choice ?
    Are these figures you have heard of or are they your opinion of what they will be?

    Reason I ask is that matching the M5 output will not allow this car to match its performance, there's more transmission loses from awd than rwd and unless the RS6 weighs quite a bit less it will lose on the numbers game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    Are these figures you have heard of or are they your opinion of what they will be?

    Reason I ask is that matching the M5 output will not allow this car to match its performance, there's more transmission loses from awd than rwd and unless the RS6 weighs quite a bit less it will lose on the numbers game.
    Agreed. HP figure of the new RS6 need to be better than this to have a competitive edge on the M5. Not that the horsepower wars will go on indefinitely, but the last M5 (V10) was 500hp, the new one is 560HP (V8TT), so if Audi plans on keeping the competitive edge, it stands to reason that the new RS6 should have somewhere north of 580HP to account for drivetrain and weight disadvantages to be competitive with the new M5, or the E63 for that matter.

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    Only thing - Audi achieve that from 4.0l and BMW from 4.4. ;-) Go figure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkop View Post
    Only thing - Audi achieve that from 4.0l and BMW from 4.4. ;-) Go figure...

    True that would be some achievement but I bet it won't have the same amount of torques or rev as high which will probably mean it's acceleration will start to tail off whilst the M5 is still pulling strong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    but I bet it won't have the same amount of torques
    It would not be fair to bet with you but if you decide to do else, dont put too much money down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOAvusRS6 View Post
    Agreed. HP figure of the new RS6 need to be better than this to have a competitive edge on the M5. Not that the horsepower wars will go on indefinitely, but the last M5 (V10) was 500hp, the new one is 560HP (V8TT), so if Audi plans on keeping the competitive edge, it stands to reason that the new RS6 should have somewhere north of 580HP to account for drivetrain and weight disadvantages to be competitive with the new M5, or the E63 for that matter.
    Rumours yes, but usually quite accurate... The torque is equally as important, especially for such heavy cars.. It should have 700(+) Nm, and probably has..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qisha View Post
    It would not be fair to bet with you but if you decide to do else, dont put too much money down.
    What about it's peak revs, will it match the 7200rpm of the M5?

    And what about weight, the RS5 had all the ammunition to beat the C63 and M3 but was burdened with too much KGs, has lessons been learned with the RS6 because it needs to be no more than 1900kg. Oh whilst on the subject of weight is there any word on what the RS4 weighs?
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    weight is a factor. audi doesnt have to put more hp down than the M5 if it weighs sufficiently less and has correspondingly more torque. let's put it this way. if audi found a way to keep the RS6 at 4000 lbs (177 less than S6) i would believe those performance figures. problme is that it is hard to believe. the M5 weighs 4288 lbs and makes 3.7 with roll out. audi will have to make a wicked car to beat that.
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    rs6 c5: 107hp/liter
    rs6 c6:117hp/lt

    m5 f10:127hp/lt
    e63amg: 101hp/lt

    My dream is that rs6 c7 will reach 140-150 hp/lt from 4.0tfsi

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreadebi View Post
    My dream is that rs6 c7 will reach ... 150 hp/lt from 4.0tfsi
    Then Audi engineers would be like...



    towards Munich&Stuttgart

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    Quote Originally Posted by The RS6 View Post
    Then Audi engineers would be like...



    towards Munich&Stuttgart
    LOL



    or more like (if 140 hp/lt)

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