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    2014 for Audi R4 (according to Autocar)





    Audi’s £25k mid-engined R4 is destined for production in 2014/15, after chairman Rupert Stadler decided to press ahead with a plan to share platforms with new entry-level Porsche and Volkswagen two-seaters. Previewed by the E-tron Spyder concept, the new sports car project has been the subject of intensive planning between Audi, Porsche and VW. Recent reports in the German media have even suggested the R4 had been placed on hold, amid concerns it was too close to the established TT. But Audi officials have confirmed to Autocar that the svelte-looking R4 has received the official green light, and will form a significant part of the company’s future sports car programme.

    “We have not abandoned plans for a roadster along the lines of the E-tron Spyder,” a source revealed to Autocar. “We have reached a stage where we are moving forward and are now in the process of progressing the business case further, but it won’t go on sale until after the third-generation TT.” While the exact launch timing remains secret, confirmation that the R4 will follow the TT into showrooms suggests that sales will start towards the end of 2014. “We have to make sure there is space in the line-up without causing a conflict with existing models,” said our insider. “It will definitely happen.” That timing should see the R4 lining up alongside the larger, second-generation R8 supercar, with which it will also share styling themes, inspired by the E-tron Spyder concept.

    Until Stadler made the key decision, the sticking point for the R4 programme had been its proposed construction. Plans initially called for a relatively simple and cost-effective steel unitary body arrangement with component sets taken from the Volkswagen Golf. Engineers also considered basing it around a more complex aluminium spaceframe design; that would have been expensive, but would have provided added engineering integrity. However, the decision to bring Porsche into the project in early 2010 has seen a further evolution in the plan. Insiders now suggest the production version of the R4 will share major elements of its front-end structure with the third-generation Boxster – itself closely related to the 911. The R4’s rear structure, however, will be “radically different”, according to one Audi source.
    Engineering efforts are concentrating initially on two petrol engines, a similar strategy to that used on the R8. As with all models based on the Group’s new MMB platform, they will be mounted transversely behind the cabin and deliver power to the rear wheels, a layout that allows significant parts sharing with front-drive engine and gearbox modules. Although a launch model has yet to be finalised, Audi sources suggest the car will run a modified version of today’s 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbocharged engine, featuring a new variable cam and valve lift control system that was recently unveiled at the Vienna engine symposium. This new unit, likely to get its first airing on the third-gen A3 in early 2012, is said to kick out 230bhp in standard form. A more heavily tuned 280bhp version is planned for the new S3 and due out in late 2013.

    The attention-stealer, however, is set to be a range-topping 350bhp version developed by Quattro GmbH and powered by the same turbocharged 2.5-litre five-cylinder powerplant from the RS3 and TT RS. With 350bhp — 35bhp more than today’s most potent Boxster — it promises heady performance with 0-62mph in less than 5.0sec and a top speed of around 175mph. The five-pot variant is likely to follow a couple of years after the R4’s initial launch; an on-sale date of around 2015 looks likely. A bigger surprise is the very strong possibility of a diesel powerplant in the line-up, as part of a push to link Audi’s Le Mans 24 Hours successes in diesel-powered endurance racers with its road cars. A strong candidate is a yet-to-be-seen twin-turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder oil-burner, set to be aired in next year’s A3 and likely to make at least 200bhp and 295lb ft.

    As part of the modular engineering strategy behind the MMB mid-engined sports car platform, Audi plans two gearbox options: a standard six-speed manual and a seven-speed S-tronic dual-clutch unit. Also under consideration is a new, electronically-operated differential with torque vectoring to boost traction and make cornering more neutral. A lesser priority, according to senior Ingolstadt officials, is an electric version based on the E-tron Spyder revealed at last year’s Detroit motor show. Volkswagen Group’s modular plug-in electric architecture will provide the motive power, possibly in conjunction with four-wheel drive.
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    3 Brands (Audi, Porsche and VW) building their own version based on one platform, each catering for a different price range and customer base.
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    fingers crossed

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    Wait, "it won’t go on sale until after the third-generation TT" Maybe i misunderstood it, but doesn't it mean that it will come after the third generation TT? As current (second gen) came in 2006, the third generation has to follow in 2013, end stay until 2020. I hope i was the one who understood incorrectly and we should not wait for it another 9 years. Otherwise i hope it will be Quattro as standard, and not RWD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toto89 View Post
    Wait, "it won’t go on sale until after the third-generation TT" Maybe i misunderstood it, but doesn't it mean that it will come after the third generation TT? As current (second gen) came in 2006, the third generation has to follow in 2013, end stay until 2020. I hope i was the one who understood incorrectly and we should not wait for it another 9 years. Otherwise i hope it will be Quattro as standard, and not RWD!
    What I understood is after introduction of TT MkIII.

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    What they mean is once the next TT is released (2013) then and only then will the R4 receive go ahead for it's launch, which means 2014. Not after the third TT has completed it's production cycle as you thought.

    The TT and this aren't competing for the same customer as the R4 is a true 2 seater sportscar and the TT is a 2+2. The next TT will also grow slightly, yet lose weight and become more luxurious if what Autocar have been told is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkop View Post
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    will it come with quattro? i hope that it dont have RWD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tvrfan View Post
    will it come with quattro? i hope that it dont have RWD.
    Good question. I'm of the opinion that if the R8 in all it's varieties is AWD then there is a very good chance that the top R4 will also have AWD.
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    I think they drag a old horse out the barn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Pretender View Post
    I think they drag a old horse out the barn.
    ?????????????????

    Care to explain what you mean by this.
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    What i mean is that they probably planned this article long before, "the R4 will be canned" info came out and run the article anyway.
    Porsche told that the Boxster sales already slugs and that a lower model would not help the sale of the Boxster at all.
    Audi told the same thing compare to the TT and that's why they canned it.
    So why would they come back on that and reapply a canned project to the program. ???
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