EBC Redstuff vs OEM Rotors..

[Hy Octane]

Car is in again for a warped tranny pan and leak.. 3rd time lucky. instead of another gasket and flush they are replacing the warped pan that came with the rebuilt ZF..
However, a curious thing.. I asked my SA to check the brake wear.. I had new rotors and EBC's put on 15k miles ago and he reports that the pads still have 90% but the rotors are starting to show hotspots.. meaning they are wearing much faster than with the oem pads..
This isnt a shock since the EBC's are much harder compound, but I was curious as to if anyone else has seen this as well?

[V8weight]

This is happening because the EBC compound isn't hard enough, thus the pads are melting down and transferring too much material to the rotor. I've recently become a Hawk distributor, and can sell Hawk pads for about the same price as the EBC's. I just received some samples yesterday to test out in my car, stay tuned for impressions and pricing.

[JSRS6]

This is happening because the EBC compound isn't hard enough, thus the pads are melting down and transferring too much material to the rotor. I've recently become a Hawk distributor, and can sell Hawk pads for about the same price as the EBC's. I just received some samples yesterday to test out in my car, stay tuned for impressions and pricing.

Standing by...

[as350]

'nother stand by here....

[ben916]

Red 5 standing by...

[Jimmy]

Really? The EBC Red compound isn't hard enough?

Would seem to me they are plenty hard if after 15K miles there is 90% of the pad left....

[bmlee007]

I just installed Reds with new OEM rotors, but it will probably be 2-3 years 'til I see 15K miles. However, I'll keep this thread in mind for when the time comes.

[skribe]

I just installed Reds with new OEM rotors, but it will probably be 2-3 years 'til I see 15K miles. However, I'll keep this thread in mind for when the time comes.

I just put my brake pads in a time capsule. We'll see how the dung beetles and atmospheric nitric oxides have affected them in 2112.

Pat, can I get that deal yesterday? I know I like Hawk pads a lot from my superbike days. Standing by for dealio in my PM box.

[Brav]

I have hot spots on my fronts, even after resurfacing (JHM Rotors..) rears seem ok. Still trying to source high speed vibration issue. Could be pad transfer problem, not sure.

[hahnmgh63]

I got almost 30K out of a set of EBC Reds and the rotors had about 5K on them when I put the Reds in. I do have the Phaeton brake cooling ducts though and after a hard run I never stop the car without trying to drive easily for a few miles without touching the brakes so the pads don't come to rest on hot rotors. I'm using the Yellow's now and they do stop better than the Reds, have a higher temp tolerance, but do occaisonally throw a squeak out there when coming to a stop (not fully broken in yet) and they do dust a little more than the Reds but not as bad as OEM. I did have good luck with Hawk's on my old S6 although the HPS's squeaked a little too.

[Holiday]

Car is in again for a warped tranny pan and leak.. 3rd time lucky. instead of another gasket and flush they are replacing the warped pan that came with the rebuilt ZF..
However, a curious thing.. I asked my SA to check the brake wear.. I had new rotors and EBC's put on 15k miles ago and he reports that the pads still have 90% but the rotors are starting to show hotspots.. meaning they are wearing much faster than with the oem pads..
This isnt a shock since the EBC's are much harder compound, but I was curious as to if anyone else has seen this as well?

Same here. Brand new rotors and EBC Reds 17k miles ago and under normal street driving, the rotors have become warped. Getting a decent amount of vibration with light braking. The EBC pads seem to be of a harder compound than OEM which explains both the elevated rotor wear, and the reduction in brake dust from stock. Like they say, nothin's free. Even so, still won't buy those OEM pads again!

[JSRS6]

Hmmmm, might have to go turn mine next week...

[ben916]

hmmm....
Maybe having to deal with the 600 miles of squealing Frozen OEM rotors could possibly be worth it...

[JSRS6]

Yeah yeah. I said I'd get the next set done. Sheesh!

[hahnmgh63]

Remember guys, EBC recommends easy driving for the first 150~200 miles before doing a more aggessive break-in procedure. From the sounds of what some people have posted about their break-in on the list, they have been doing an aggressive break-in right off the bat rather than letting them seat a little first and get that EBC break-in coating worn off normally and without a lot of heat.

[ben916]

...than letting them seat a little first and get that EBC break-in coating worn off normally and without a lot of heat.

I did that - check
Then about 75-100 miles later, they were squealing something FIERCE!!!

[nistah]

OK someone please help me understand. EBC red pads are harder material than OEM pads, last longer than oem pads but degrade the( expensive) rotors faster than oem pads. So even if the ebc reds are stronger and last longer than oem pads , what is benefit of repalcing OEM w/ ebc red if the ebc reds wear the rotors faster. The rotors cost way more than the pads, so why not just keep replacing with OEM pads and save your rotors??? Also V8 weight any insight on the hawk pads???TIA - Nistah

[Brav]

Point. But whatever pad you choose, DO NOT Choose OEM. The pins will destroy your rotors anyway. I chose EBCs primarily for lower dust. Fair tradeoff for me. But I think they caused my rotors to warp when bedding them in. I fixed the problem I think by turning them. I still get a slight vibration at high speed that I cant quite source..