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    Un-drilled but anybody ever look at these Euro Phaeton floating two piece rotors?

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    Wow that's reasonable, my MB 2 piece floating drilled rotors were 700 per side !
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    I saw these on their website a couple of years ago (bought the Euro Aspherical mirrors from them) but forgot about them until I skimmed their website again today. They appear to be the type that use replacebale rings? Any Euro users know about these?
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    id be interested to know if the JHM rings would fit on these...
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    The description gives nothing on dimensions or weight or benefit or replacement rotor ring...
    Mark, are you going to get information on these?
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    Guys,

    I have looked at this swap before. The rotors ar 365x34 or an exact swap for ours. They are lighter due to the hat being aluminum. They are available for WAY less that $795. You can get them for Less than 300 british pounds, or 340 Euro last time I check (about 6 months ago). I could never find just the discs. But at 425 a set, they are pretty tough to go wrong...so why didnt I pull the trigger? Asthetics only. I like the RS logo and the drilled holes in the US rotor. If I had to buy again now, I would go the Phaeton way, and them have them slotted. DUH.

    So if you are looking, or needing a brake change, this is a great way to go. VW part number is 3D0615301N.

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    Stephen, I thought our hats were aluminum...?
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    You are right, they are, but they are either a rough casting, or coated, or something. They are not like the floating rotor hat. Which is almost like a CNC'd or stamped ice cream sandwich. Don't know how best to describe the difference.

    Stephen

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    Nope, you got it. Ours are cast, and those are cnc'd. Stronger and lighter.
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    I do like the price of these but as Stephen alluded to I like the asthetics of our drilled rotors. It would be nice if we could get them slotted at least. Our design can't be too bad though as it is the same on the R8 and it is the same (design & manufacture) on the new Porsche GT3 Cup car.
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    As said, buy these and have them slotted. PERFECT! drilled is so 5 minutes ago...

    But they are non-directionally vented.. maybe not as great for cooling, but for street its probably fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brav View Post
    As said, buy these and have them slotted. PERFECT! drilled is so 5 minutes ago...

    But they are non-directionally vented.. maybe not as great for cooling, but for street its probably fine.
    Hence the Phaeton brake backing plate and cooling ducts...
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    True.. your're a wise one. Black anodized machined hats look a LOT nicer than the cast! I should have had the JHM hats anodized..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brav View Post
    True.. your're a wise one. Black anodized machined hats look a LOT nicer than the cast! I should have had the JHM hats anodized..
    It's not too late Chris....
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    Hi

    Has anyone tested these Phaeton W12 discs 3D0615301N on RS6 C5?


    For I found this text now when I searched for them on Google.

    I have decided that I am not happy with the way the Phaeton Discs need to be adapted to fit the RS6 Plus (a straight swop as many forums suggest is simply not the case) This means that my freshly grooved Phaeton discs are for sale. Happy to let them go at what they cost me trade, plus the cost price of having them grooved. Would prefer them to go as a set. Part numbers are 3D0615301N fronts & 4E0615601L rears. Message me for price, if no takers i'll eBay the buggers.


    Here he writes also:
    http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php...=discs+grooved
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    Was going to point out that my info says the VW discs are 360x34 and RS6 365x34. Wouldn't want the pads hanging off the rotor edge......
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSRS6 View Post
    Nope, you got it. Ours are cast, and those are cnc'd. Stronger and lighter.
    CNC machining looks great but pust more emphasis on engineering and testing to rule out stress risers that lead to failure. Me thinks the OEM units use a cast hat to embed the carrier spokes from the rotor rings.....or something clever like this.
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    I run the undrilled Phaeton rotors on the front of my winter beast.
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