Well, after some anticipation we have some # for everyone.
First here is my dyno run. Stock except fluids and MTM TCU chip:
Well, after some anticipation we have some # for everyone.
First here is my dyno run. Stock except fluids and MTM TCU chip:
Last edited by 4everRS; June 5th, 2010 at 21:50. Reason: Video issues
Avus Silver RS6 - Viper Stage 2 ECU/TCU - Water/Meth Injection - Frozen Rotors - Hbars - clear corners - Hella smoked tails - gutted precats
3 things: Kyle's car is a very healthy stock RS6. The specified and actual boost were spot on, and it posted excellent numbers.
I had no idea that my Eurocharged tune made this much power. That's 528 ft/lbs at the wheels....Holy smokes. How could you buy anything else? Is it worth it to buy the revo so you can screw around with some knobs? Or the APR so you can yank at your blinker stalk? I'm sold.
The third thing: On the second run for both Kyle and myself, we lost about 20-30 hp due to heat soak. By simply misting the intercoolers with a simple pump spray bottle of water before the third pull, we each gained 25-30 hp over the second run.
Last edited by V8weight; June 5th, 2010 at 22:05.
Pat - Eisenmann race exhaust, Catless downpipes, KW V3's, H-Sport sways, 034 Control arms, Apikol diff mount, Sterns motor mounts, Forge dv's, Stainless brake lines, Venair hoses, Sportec vent mod, Euro tails, Viper Tuned ecu/tcu, DPE S20's 19x9.5, 275/30/19's
The video shows 524 ft lbs. This was his first run. As Pat mentioned, we lost some hp on the second run. Then after spraying the IC's with water, The power came back. His last run was 528 ft lbs. If anyone is wondering that is equivalent to 660 at the crank assuming a 20% loss !!!!
Avus Silver RS6 - Viper Stage 2 ECU/TCU - Water/Meth Injection - Frozen Rotors - Hbars - clear corners - Hella smoked tails - gutted precats
Mine came in at 377hp stock at the wheels. So at 450 hp crank, this would be a 16% loss. IMHO I do not think this is accurate. There should be more drivetrain loss. Guessing is all we can do as far as what the drivetrain loss really is.
A different Dyno? Maybe.
But do we really know if Audi "underrated" the power a bit. Could be.
Plus, using 25% means that Pat is closer to 700 ft/lbs.
"I think these cars are closer to +25% driveline loss"
Nevertheless, the Eurcharged tune Pat has is incredible.
Avus Silver RS6 - Viper Stage 2 ECU/TCU - Water/Meth Injection - Frozen Rotors - Hbars - clear corners - Hella smoked tails - gutted precats
Interesting information, thank you for sharing!
FWIW: Mustang tells us to allow for 28% driveline loss in Quattro, Automatic Audi pulls.
Steve
"You have first to experience what you want to express" (V. Van Gogh)
Every dyno has different traits. Word on the street is Dynojet reads higher than Mustang. That is fine.
The solid data speaks for itself. The stock car in excellent tune put down a number. The modified car in excellent tune put down a bigger number. The combination of the two plus the VagCom data logs with each car on the dyno is the whipped cream on top. Now we can look over the logs and determine where and how the extra power was made.
Its too bad JRS could not make to the dyno because his car has a different upgrade path and should have been a good comparison to the other two cars. And the Wagner intercoolers could have been tested out to determine efficiency with VagCom data logs on IATemps.
Next time.
So,
250 page views and not a peep about the intercooler spray bar idea?
30awhp increase from just spraying some water on the outside of the intercoolers?
30 wheel hp from a squirt of water?
how much is that exactly per hp gain?
I guess bling is more important.
bling, bling, bling, bling and bling. Got to get me more bling.
Really the drivetrains have only about 18 to 20% loss. Believe it or not they are pretty efficient. I have never seen one Dynoed with less than 22% loss and that was totally stock with heavy chrome 20" wheels (stupid) and about 96 degrees ambient temp. 03 RS6 450, RS6+ 480....
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I think we could get that number down a bit, i.e. transmission mounts, stabilizer bar, rear diff bushings...same thing i did with my S4, with the addition of motor mounts and snub mount. all autospeed competition urethane. Of course ALL those mounts do transmit alot of engine and gear noise...maybe we could just do the rear bushing and stabilizer bar...
Avus RS 6, RNS-E/BT/RVC, Eurocharged/MTM, SuperSports, PSS9/Hotchkis, SS Lines/EBC Reds, FMU/BMC, Sportec vents, 007's, 9500ci, Black Optics/Headlights/Trim/Rims, CC; coming soon: stage 3 snow meth
Ok so let's review Pat's UPGRADES:
Eurocharged ECU tune
MTM TCU tune
007 Diverter Valves
Stock OEM Filter Assembly
Stock OEM turbos
BND trans fluid
BND engine oil
Anything else I missed??
SOLD - 03 RS6 Avus (905355)
Current - 03 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 double cab - the YETI, lifted, winched, snorkeled, lockered, skidded, geared
Pat - Eisenmann race exhaust, Catless downpipes, KW V3's, H-Sport sways, 034 Control arms, Apikol diff mount, Sterns motor mounts, Forge dv's, Stainless brake lines, Venair hoses, Sportec vent mod, Euro tails, Viper Tuned ecu/tcu, DPE S20's 19x9.5, 275/30/19's
Pat - Eisenmann race exhaust, Catless downpipes, KW V3's, H-Sport sways, 034 Control arms, Apikol diff mount, Sterns motor mounts, Forge dv's, Stainless brake lines, Venair hoses, Sportec vent mod, Euro tails, Viper Tuned ecu/tcu, DPE S20's 19x9.5, 275/30/19's