FS: 2004 RS6 Ebony Black (Canada)

[JAYMEN]

I’m selling this car for a friend. If you have any questions email me jaymen69(at)hotmail(dot)com or PM me and I will get you in contact with the seller.

VERY RARE! 1 of 90, 2004 Audi RS6’s that were made for Canada

Location: Acton, Ontario
Mileage: 126, xxx km’s
Colour: Black Ebony Pearl
Body Condition - Original Paint, overall condition is near perfect outside of some stone chips.
Interior Condition - Near Perfect

PRICE: $43,000 CAD

Maintenance
-All scheduled maintenance done by Audi including the 2nd timing belt change @ 108k
-Oil Change just done


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[DuckWingDuck]

80,000 miles for $43K? Good luck on the sale but the market is wayyyy sailed your friend by. We've got cars with almost a third the miles going for that kind of price or even slightly lower.

[JAYMEN]

Thanks for the input, I will do a bit more research.
Please remember that this is in CAD $ if you haven't considered that.

If this is priced too high, what is the market value?

[DuckWingDuck]

Amusingly enough, I thought of that as soon as I clicked send. But I just did a quick currency convert and CAD43,000 is still USD37,339. Still a bit rich for the car I think. Guys like Dave who keep a much closer eye on the market for the RS6 will have a better idea of what the "true" value of the vehicle is but my guess and this is just my gut reaction, you're probably looking at less than USD30,000.

[Maverick]

the fair price for this car will be less than $25K due to the mileage.
I know a couple tastefully modded RS6 priced at $28K that are going to be on the market soon. they have less miles than you do OP.

[RS6-4dr911]

He may be more right than we think. IIRC, to be driven in Canada requires certain equipment spec's that the US cars did not have. This makes an RS6 a slightly more rare commodity, slightly.

If Canada's population is 33MM, and US is 300MM, we think we know that 1400 came to the US but assuming he's right that only 90 went to the great white north, that's roughly 4/1000 people in the US vs. 2.7/1000 in Canada.

And since the Canuk's are so much better off than we are, what with socialized health care, greater environmental awareness, not to mention Canadian bacon, there's perhaps a greater demand for such a rare Beast.

Good luck to you.

(just havin' fun, no angry responses required)

[DHall1]

Yeah,

I really cant speak for Canada. I have no idea what the asset value of goods have done in the last 5 years. I mean its location and condition that sells a car but if the people have no money then its not worth anything. Its that simple.

Yeah, and you better hurry because Cap and Trade is coming! LOL

Good luck

Amusingly enough, I thought of that as soon as I clicked send. But I just did a quick currency convert and CAD43,000 is still USD37,339. Still a bit rich for the car I think. Guys like Dave who keep a much closer eye on the market for the RS6 will have a better idea of what the "true" value of the vehicle is but my guess and this is just my gut reaction, you're probably looking at less than USD30,000.

[DHall1]

Yeah,

But how many of the 33MM are illegals? And do those illegals pay any taxes to get all free healthcare and bacon?

Jk



[quote=RS6-4dr911;166096

If Canada's population is 33MM, and US is 300MM, we think we know that 1400 came to the US but assuming he's right that only 90 went to the great white north, that's roughly 4/1000 people in the US vs. 2.7/1000 in Canada.

And since the Canuk's are so much better off than we are, what with socialized health care, greater environmental awareness, not to mention Canadian bacon, there's perhaps a greater demand for such a rare Beast.

Good luck to you.

(just havin' fun, no angry responses required)[/quote]

[DuckWingDuck]

laf, okay, well, here we go again. Dave, you do realise that cap and trade exists in europe and they have WAY more crazy high end cars than we do right? Incidentally, GM is also going to be coming out with a 2 door CTS-V, although much to my displeasure, no CTS-V wagon.

[DHall1]

Hey,

I didnt start it. RS4dr did. :-) jk

Cap and Trade does not work. Socialized health care does not work. One does not equal more or less high end crazy cars. We are just feeding the never ending bigger government waste. I dont consider it a pollitical thing more than just a common sense stance. I dont want higher taxes or bigger government. It will kill the economy and already is killing the economy. I dont need handouts nor free health care and I gladly pay over 50k in Fed taxes every year. Some people dont pay that much in a lifetime.

In the end, it was the cheating banks that caused the boom and bust helped by lax enforcement of the existing laws and oversight. Now the whole country is upside down and budgets need to be corrected. That is the tough pill to swallow. The banks purchased insurance...hedge....they had full knowledge over the horizon. Thats why they got the insurance. Now you and I have paid them off in one big money grab and the banks have it again. (AIG bailout just served to pay off the banks at full face value of junk mortgage bonds.)

I know, I know. The cars...sorry. In my opinion, the high end cars in Europe are more reserved for the very wealthy. There just seems to be a greater void between the middle class and the wealthy in Europe. I could be wrong or very wrong its just a feeling with no data to back it up. And Cap and Trade is not in high favor over there. Some are going back against it. Italy for one. You and I would never be able to afford a RS6 living in Europe.

I hope GM can make it but feel it is doomed for failure. There is no chance at all this new GM will survive. Even with my best friend owning a GM dealership....the days are numbered and the tax payer will never see a penny of the 100 Billion bailout. I will never buy any GM and would buy a Ford before you could even give me a GM for free. Its how lots of Americans feel. That is why GM will fail. Did you notice the AIG 20/1 stock split? Then the markets proceeded to hammer the stock right back down to 7 dollars. The tax payer will never see a penny of the AIG bailout. They are selling the profitable parts to pay the FED then leave the rest for the taxpayers. Stock will be worthless.

laf, okay, well, here we go again. Dave, you do realise that cap and trade exists in europe and they have WAY more crazy high end cars than we do right? Incidentally, GM is also going to be coming out with a 2 door CTS-V, although much to my displeasure, no CTS-V wagon.

[DuckWingDuck]

incidentally, I agree that cap and trade doesn't work, what is needed is a carbon tax. That is what works but we've gone around the bend on this issue, more interesting for us to discuss it offline the next time we hang out rather than bore the rest of the folks on the boards with our varying views on macro-econ issues ;-)

btw, southern california audi drive is on the 13th of Sept this year, you should plan to come out for it!

[DHall1]

Greg,

Thinking about this for a minute. Maybe our european friends can chime in. Didnt the Beatles go broke back in the day partly due to high taxes? Dont many professional sports car drivers move from Germany and Europe due to excessive taxes? How many F1 drivers live in Monaco? The very rich will find a way to exit stage left. Thats leaves the rest of us to pay even more. Is it fair? I dont know. Tiger Woods and several other US pros left California years ago to head for Florida. Was it the 4Million he saved in state taxes the first year? So for what its worth there seems to be a limit even for the rich where they will just pick up shop and leave.

laf, okay, well, here we go again. Dave, you do realise that cap and trade exists in europe and they have WAY more crazy high end cars than we do right? Incidentally, GM is also going to be coming out with a 2 door CTS-V, although much to my displeasure, no CTS-V wagon.

[DHall1]

I dont like to see an entire segment of our economy get punished while we prop up another segment. It could happen with Cap and Trade and the Health care plan. It could doom our country. Then we all drive Flintstone mobiles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX53PVe8Rck

I dont want to pedal my next car.

Ok, I will check the dates. Ben is buying the beer. I have to make it.

incidentally, I agree that cap and trade doesn't work, what is needed is a carbon tax. That is what works but we've gone around the bend on this issue, more interesting for us to discuss it offline the next time we hang out rather than bore the rest of the folks on the boards with our varying views on macro-econ issues ;-)

btw, southern california audi drive is on the 13th of Sept this year, you should plan to come out for it!

[Bigglezworth]

Man you guys are totally missing the boat. This car was 140K CDN in 2004. It was 'only' available to Canadian's until 1 year and 3 weeks ago. Less than two years ago the same car sold for over 80K + 7% GST CDN from a used car lot. A crap load of Canadian's would spend this much for the ride. You are also forgetting that price is free of the 7% GST and 6.2% duty rates that are applied to currency converted rates for imported vehicles and is more than in line with the same depreciation on the US 2003 model. Finally you are all aware that the CDN issued cars are different from a crash test perspective and were modified further than those imported by Audi Cars of North America to meet more stringent safety measures than those imposed for the cars importation into the US.....

Tim

[RS6-4dr911]

1. We may be getting splashed but pretty sure we're in the boat.

2. Never confuse cost with value. The taxes paid by the first poor chump that bought it , including the Canadian safety tax, don't make it any more valuable.

3. Greg, don't know the actual stat's, but anecdotally, ona recent trip to Germany, we noted the general lack upper end cars relative to the US.

4. While Dave may never be accepted into the diplomatic corp, I wouldn't bet against him in an economics debate. The liberal elite have been foolishly racing to emulate Europe's socialist economic policy for decades, and now we're at a (and liberals love this word) tipping point that as Dave correctly points out could well doom our country for decades. Meanwhile, Europe (at least France and Germany) appear to be recognizing that the socialist way doesnt work long term.

5. If you want to see the values of assets of any kind, most importantly our beloved Beasts, begin to rise (or at least depreciate less dramatically), it will take implementing policies that support and promote free market capitalism (yes SOME regulation is needed). Dave's explanation of the mess is correct but it would have healed itself but the markets are reflecting the prospects for the future given the radical and rapid change in direction the current trioika (BHO, Reid & Pelosi) are implementing.

I'm already planning where I can hide the Beast when anything over 90 hp is deemed an enemy of the state.

[DHall1]

I have not laughed so hard all month. And yes, I failed the PC course work in school. I dont have time for PC when a sledgehammer is needed to wake some people up around the country.

And yes, Roger Penske would have purchased alot more than just Saturn had the gov not been in the way.

Its ok for me either way but I hate to see a country go down the drain. I would much rather enjoy making a living and spending money on property, travel, cars and investments. As it stands now, we (my family) are not spending money at all. Nothing and cutting back more and more each day.

I cant wait for our GST, VAT or whatever the hell you want to call it. We will spend even less than what we are now. Can you spend less than zero? I will try.

1. We may be getting splashed but pretty sure we're in the boat.

2. Never confuse cost with value. The taxes paid by the first poor chump that bought it , including the Canadian safety tax, don't make it any more valuable.

3. Greg, don't know the actual stat's, but anecdotally, ona recent trip to Germany, we noted the general lack upper end cars relative to the US.

4. While Dave may never be accepted into the diplomatic corp, I wouldn't bet against him in an economics debate. The liberal elite have been foolishly racing to emulate Europe's socialist economic policy for decades, and now we're at a (and liberals love this word) tipping point that as Dave correctly points out could well doom our country for decades. Meanwhile, Europe (at least France and Germany) appear to be recognizing that the socialist way doesnt work long term.

5. If you want to see the values of assets of any kind, most importantly our beloved Beasts, begin to rise (or at least depreciate less dramatically), it will take implementing policies that support and promote free market capitalism (yes SOME regulation is needed). Dave's explanation of the mess is correct but it would have healed itself but the markets are reflecting the prospects for the future given the radical and rapid change in direction the current trioika (BHO, Reid & Pelosi) are implementing.

I'm already planning where I can hide the Beast when anything over 90 hp is deemed an enemy of the state.

[JAYMEN]

Thanks for all the talk guys but I'm trying to sell this car.

Try to keep the economics and stats out of this thread and please keep it on topic.

The price has been discussed, and it may warrant a price drop in the future but as of right now 43k CAD is firm.

[RS6-4dr911]

Let's see, ignore facts, economics and market conditions when pricing the sale of an asset.

Got it, will do.