RS6 V10 plus

**Michaël Barbé** · December 18th, 2007, 20:06

Any words on the RS6 plus?
First of all: I don't think we need one but it's always fun to see what Audi can do!

If you have not heard anything about the "plus", what is your quess one the engine?
- What engine,
- hp's,
- ex- and interior changes,
- other extra's?
- ...

MB

**AuditudeA642** · December 18th, 2007, 21:24

the rs6 is not even out yet and your asking about an RS6 Plus that probably wont exist till 3 years from now.

**Audiphile** · December 18th, 2007, 21:33

Let's just release the RS6 Avant first and see the type of reviews it gets.

**RXBG** · December 18th, 2007, 21:45

whatever- i'll bite. probably 610 hp. a la le mans quattro. at the end of the RS6's life span, when the next M5 comes out (or an updated M5 with a TT V10).

**Leadfoot** · December 18th, 2007, 22:22

Originally Posted by RXBG

whatever- i'll bite. probably 610 hp. a la le mans quattro. at the end of the RS6's life span, when the next M5 comes out (or an updated M5 with a TT V10).

Oh I think you can set your heights a little higher than that.

**rs-mad** · December 18th, 2007, 22:31

I will have a go

Assuming the transmission is cable of higher torque numbers ~800nm I would say the RS6 PLUS would be capable of 680-700hp and ~800nm.

**tvrfan** · December 18th, 2007, 22:54

Originally Posted by rs-mad

I will have a go

Assuming the transmission is cable of higher torque numbers ~800nm I would say the RS6 PLUS would be capable of 680-700hp and ~800nm.

would be a dream but they have to keep distance to porsche and lamborghini, because with that output of power they would destroy them on performance. porsche and lamborghini wouldnt let that go.

**Michaël Barbé** · December 19th, 2007, 10:43

what the hell? if you think this thread is too soon: don't answer it!

I think it interesting to quess what Audi will do: who cares if it's in 3, 5 of a million years?

I would like it when Audi would be inventive and not increase power but decrease weight. Like all carbon body...

Damn, still hate you haters out there.Always naggin' about everything!

**Carl Lassiter** · December 19th, 2007, 19:54

Originally Posted by Michaël Barbé

what the hell? if you think this thread is too soon: don't answer it!

I think it interesting to quess what Audi will do: who cares if it's in 3, 5 of a million years?

I would like it when Audi would be inventive and not increase power but decrease weight. Like all carbon body...

Damn, still hate you haters out there.Always naggin' about everything!

My 2cents is that a possible RS6Plus will develop more than the 30bhp increase on the first generation. Therefore, I go for 630ps (622bhp). Tq may be unchanged as it is already on a leash.

**Damienr8** · December 19th, 2007, 22:23

Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter

My 2cents is that a possible RS6Plus will develop more than the 30bhp increase on the first generation. Therefore, I go for 630ps (622bhp). Tq may be unchanged as it is already on a leash.

Wrong the RS6 PLUS will have a supercharger on top of the 2 turbos and will be pushing 800+ HP with over 800lb/ft of torque. TRUST ME ON THIS, i have secret sources that no one knows...... JK LOLOL

I suppose if they have a RS6+ it would be just over the 600hp mark. I just can't believe the HP wars going on. Next M5 with a TTv10.....whats next..??? My Ideal RS6+ Would be the regular RS6 580hp TTV10 - 200lbs...

**aarong** · December 20th, 2007, 07:06

they should bring the damn saloon here to the states before they lavish you guys with an additional RS6 model across the pond :mad:

**Michaël Barbé** · December 22nd, 2007, 10:25

Hmm I think 610hp would be to much for an Audi. It's "simple" to put just more power in... 610 is almost like an SLR or a Carrera GT.

If they made an all carbon body they could keep the same engine with the same power. They only "disadvantage" the RS6 has is its weight: A little bit over 2tons. If they made the body all carbon they would make one hell of a car!!

Howmuch weight will this spare you think and is there any chance Audi would do this for the RS6 C6 Plus?

Plus: what will it do to the figures from 0-100km/h (0-60mph) and the top speed. I think it would make the most difference in the handling.

Am I really just dreaming here or...

MB

**Michaël Barbé** · December 22nd, 2007, 10:36

Originally Posted by tvrfan

would be a dream but they have to keep distance to porsche and lamborghini, because with that output of power they would destroy them on performance. porsche and lamborghini wouldnt let that go.

Don't worry about the relation Audi-Lambo. Lambo is from Audi, remember. They would never "block" their own make.
And Porsche never has that many hp's but they work on weight and aerodynamica. And yeah if you're talking about all-round performance: I don't think an RS6 wil ever beat a supercar like the Carrera GT. Audi is smarter then that and Porsche would have something ready for Audi quick.

I would like it dough if we see a video on youtube in a couple of years with an RS6 destroying a Carrera GT / SLR / ...

Still, I think Audi could do some great thinks with the carbon fiber!

MB

**tvrfan** · December 22nd, 2007, 11:56

yeah thats, truth michael, i hope porsche and lamboghini wont stop audi in future in performance and models (supercars if they want to build), also in hp.

What do you think, how big is the chance to see the PLUS versions in all RS cars? that would be awesome, wouldnt it? ok then its not a M- CSL competitor because lightweight. but a little different look from the standart RS model and a little horsepower increase would be nice tough.

what do you think, is the chance big, that we see maybe in future PLUS versions of all RS models?

**Rage** · December 22nd, 2007, 12:42

Originally Posted by tvrfan

what do you think, is the chance big, that we see maybe in future PLUS versions of all RS models?

I hope not. The RS version should be the best Audi can make it. I would be pissed off if I spent a small fortune on an RS car only for a slightly better version to appear shortly after.

**Michaël Barbé** · December 22nd, 2007, 13:57

You'll never see a plus-version as much as say an Bentley Continental GT. That's a car twice the price of an RS6 and really NOT exclusive!

I'm just saying that it would be a good action from Audi to become the same numbers with weight loss in stead of adding more power!

Like I said: You would feel this in the corners big time!
Let's be honest: less weight is almost never bad! (read: most of the time: brilliant!)

If they wanted to, would they be able to make a weight loss of more then 100 kilograms? Would this make any difference?

MB

**Leadfoot** · December 22nd, 2007, 23:04

I see the point of CF panels but to most people it's the numbers that sell a car, the biggest HP, the quicker acceleration times, the best topspeed, only do real enthusiast care about finesse and balanced handling. For example look at the S4 vs S5, the S5 has a much better weight balance and handles with much more finesse but it's ring time has only improved by 3 seconds, so these CF panels may improve the way it feels but don't expect any great shakes to it's overall cornering speeds.

So chances are we will see an increase in power, whether we see any weight lose will depend on how well the normal RS6 is received and how well it sells. If it's not good then why would Audi waste their time building a better one.

**Michaël Barbé** · December 23rd, 2007, 14:04

Originally Posted by Leadfoot

I see the point of CF panels but to most people it's the numbers that sell a car, the biggest HP, the quicker acceleration times, the best topspeed, only do real enthusiast care about finesse and balanced handling. For example look at the S4 vs S5, the S5 has a much better weight balance and handles with much more finesse but it's ring time has only improved by 3 seconds, so these CF panels may improve the way it feels but don't expect any great shakes to it's overall cornering speeds.

So chances are we will see an increase in power, whether we see any weight lose will depend on how well the normal RS6 is received and how well it sells. If it's not good then why would Audi waste their time building a better one.

First of all: less weight can't be bad for the RS6.
Second of all: 3 seconds is alot. You can't expect it to be 15 or 30 or maybe even 60, right?
3rd of all: so you say the s5 is better on that and that and that and: he has a better ringtime. So why then don't do it?
4th: if it's not good then Audi wouldn't waste any time making a better one: they would make a better one to improve what was not good at the other one. right? If they don't make a better one: then they will have made a bad car. Of course they would never stop there!
5th: When the RS6 will have some critcs, it will mostly the weight that they would talk about, right? So it would be smart to remove these critcs then...

I really can't see why it's not a good idea! You guys just want more power because, because then you can say: I've got a car with over 600hp...

I'm not saying more power is bad but I'm just saying that it would be inventive and surprising when Audi does something else: like weight loss, what this car CAN use (am I wrong?)...

We must be happy that we can use materials like carbon fibre today. So why don't make good use of it too?

MB

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