GTR posts 7:38 on the ring.

[ott]

Found other quote of Mr. Mizuno regards laptimes:

Earlier, Mizuno-san had offered some lap times from the Nordschliefe for various cars driven by the German magazine SportAuto. Those times are driver-dependent, track-knowledge-dependent, weather-, traffic- and bunny-crossing-the-track dependent. But Mizuno suggested the GT-R could get anywhere from 7:44 on up, with most laps coming in between 7:55 and 7:58. So he suggested the GT-R’s strong suit was that it offered “the best cost per lap time.” For whatever that’s worth.

Read also full article, some interesting comparison with 997 TT

After “much spirited driving,” we can say the Turbo had a good deal more lag and more dive and squat than the GT-R. But once the Porsche got spooled up, achtung, baby. It felt lighter and the steering felt quicker, too. The biggest difference between the two was that the Turbo demanded more of its driver while the GT-R was easier to handle, flatter and more stable.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../71017001/1065

[Z07]

Zonda F vs GTR @Nurburgring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9v_TpP7ds

Play full screen (button at bottom left).

[Z07]

O well the CSL isn't dead

Touring car driver Richard Göransson lapped the track in 7 minutes 22.9 seconds with the Loaded CSL.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=17133

Explain how they beat the Zonda F's record when the Zonda's record was for a production car?

You'll find that a Blitz modified Supra ran 7:21 about a decade ago and an Edo 911 has made 7:15 since then.

I mean, why not compare the Mines R34 GTR to a stock M3 CSL?

[Z07]

Full interview is here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=17066

Can't remember where exactly was information about 7.55-7.58 times, but it was the same guy saying, that most of the test drivers run those laptimes with completely stock GT-R.

All cars testing on the 'ring use either cut-slicks or sport tyres. You think all the other times were set with standard factory tyres?

[Leadfoot]

What this video comparison proves is how much quicker the Zonda is in acceleration and how much better the GTR is on the brakes and in the corner. In fact I have more respect for the Nissan than ever before.

[Clio16V]

All cars testing on the 'ring use either cut-slicks or sport tyres. You think all the other times were set with standard factory tyres?

A lot of peolpe say about the CSL, that it is so fast because of the Cup tires.

In the Supertest it did 7:50s with Cup tires, it was compared with the 911(996?) GT3 from that time. The GT3 did it in 7:54 with regular sport tires.

Later the GT3 was also tested on Cup tires and did in 7:48s. A difference of 6s.

Maybe this puts in perspective of how good the CSL is with only 360HP in the year2003.

[Clio16V]

Zonda F vs GTR @Nurburgring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9v_TpP7ds

Play full screen (button at bottom left).

Nice video

[rs-mad]

Who care's LOL

Just kidding I have an always be a GTR lover and the new one is no different in keeping the big euro guys on their toes.

It would be great to see a battle between 911 GT2 (997), Nissan GTR, M3 CSL and a super car to keep them in perspective running cut slicks around the ring for comparison.

Till then long live the GTR

RS-MAD

[Clio16V]

Guys,

I'm sertainly not telling one is better then the other, just love al of those cars

The NSX-R to!

[Z07]

After “much spirited driving,” we can say the Turbo had a good deal more lag and more dive and squat than the GT-R.

I'm surprised by that. Given that the 911 delivers peak torque from 1950rpm, I'd have thought it'd be quicker on the spool.

[Z07]

Just to clear things up:

Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R First Look - CarSpace Automotive Forums

There's been some confusion over the tires used on the GT-R during its 7:38 lap of the Nurburgring. Various sources have reported that cut slicks were used. This is incorrect, and stems from a language barrier at a press conference during the GT-R's debut at the Tokyo Motor Show.

Senior GT-R development engineering staff on hand at the 'ring trip I attended confirmed that production-specification (including the tread compound) Bridestone RE070 tires were used on the 7:38 lap.

The three pre-production cars Nissan had on hand during the final Nurburgring trip were production-intent configuration. The strongest car of the three (within production variation) was selected to run the lap, with no "hotting up" done to fudge the result.

[ott]

language barrier at a press conference during the GT-R's debut at the Tokyo Motor Show

nice try, but

Fifth Gear presenter and PistonHeads writer Jonny Smith was one of the few people to be flown to Japan 24-hours before the Tokyo motor-show and given a secret tour of the new car, even before the Japanese media...

and make up your mind...

All cars testing on the 'ring use either cut-slicks or sport tyres. You think all the other times were set with standard factory tyres?

production-specification (including the tread compound) Bridestone RE070 tires were used

[Leadfoot]

Who gives a monkeys if there a misunderstand or not, if they use proper road tyres or not, we will all know soon enough when some of the magazines finally get their hands on it.

[Z07]

nice try, but



and make up your mind...

Do you have a speech recording of the interview?

People have seen plenty of pictures of the car being tested. There are none featuring cut slicks so I’m sure they can make up your own mind.

Many manufacturers do use cut slicks but most use soft compound sport tyres.

[7:53 RS6]

Exclusively developed nitrogen-filled Bridgestoner RE070A high-capacity run-flat summer tires, 255/40R20 front and 285/35R20 rear. I see no strange in this lap been done on R-cpmpond tires developed for the stock car.

There are fast driver out there and they make a diffrence in the end, this guy drive fast.

Just see old this old video Gan-san från Best Motoring, its on 7.56min full Sport Auto lap, I am sure Horst would not go this fast in the same car.

lapping a old NSX-R, its a fast lap for this car i would say, was it on slicks due to that, no -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7X8blHFfoM



I will say this is the tiers used, and its stock on the car GT-R.
Until i see prof of any other tiers used this is the one, developed for the car.

Its Nissan we talk about here guys, it quite a big manufactor of cars. And even they have a marketing department, and I am sure those guys would know that if they was on other than stock tiers, well the hole thing will get more badwill than ever, fales marketing. I am sure they are smarter than that.

Still today there are peopel that belive the CSL horst drove was like special, like not stock, well that clearly shows those dont have a clu about the CSL and its stock potential

In the end its so much talk on internet anyway, who knows whats tru or not.

Thats why one should not live the life after whats said on internet or whats seen on TV

In the end i might bee wrong, but not untill i see prof of that cut slicks was used, well then I belive it. Many times have also the Michelin Cup tiers been called cut slicks...in mags etc, etc...or well that cup tier are more like a cut slicks, etc, etc. Well its not a cut slicks, the cup tiers are a road legal street tiers, cut slicks are not!.

[Benman]

Simply amazing... only @11 seconds seperate the Zonda from the GT-R, just incredible.

But then, one could say the GT-R is not a "true" driver's car.

Ben

[7:53 RS6]

Holy crap! Did you guys notice his time through the Carousel?!? He was never below 100kph!?!?! That is insane!

Having had the opportunity to experience the Nordschleife on several occasion as both driver and passenger (even several time as a passenger of veteran racecar pilot Wolfgang Kaufmann), owning a car that can take it in less than 7min40sec would be just surreal. Owning the same car for less than $80K is even more unthinkable! Even the Race spec M3 GTR I got to ride in (Gote knows who I'm talking about) would be hard pressed to beat that time by much (impossible for me to know it's time since they ran both Northern Loop and GP circuit).

All the talk of "cheap" plasiticy interiors... so what, that is one hell of a car! I couldn't imagine that as a daily driver, but the incredible part is according to all the early mag tests, it is a pussy cat when you want it to be! Just amazing... Well Done Nissan!

Ben

Sure I am whit you on this, one impressive laptime from a stock factory car this 7.38
And in USA its for free, hardly no money i guess?

As a ref lap well we got my frinds Loaded CSL at 7.22.9min as well a friends race car wich drove at the same day Loaded did this time. Well the E90 slicks shod race car did the same lap as Loaded as well the same lap the Nissand did, well E90 VLN race car did it in 7.08min.

This car is doing the compleate VLN strech in ap 8.45min. Compared to Hans Joackim Stuck in the Shubert Motors Z4M Coupe wich do the whole VLN lap in 8.28.

By the way the guy that did drive 7.22 whit Loaded CSL is also driving the Shubert Z4M toghether whit Senior and Junior Stuck and Claudia Hurtgren.He is equal as fast as Stuck in the Z4M around the ring.

[Leadfoot]

Still today there are peopel that belive the CSL horst drove was like special, like not stock, well that clearly shows those dont have a clu about the CSL and its stock potential

I don't know if that statement was directed at me but I suppose I have always doubted how the CSL could drop 30 seconds from the car it was closely based on. I will accept that there is a lot about the CSL that I don't know so that maybe why I have always had this little bit of doubt sitting at the back of my mind.

You own one and know best, if you say it will then I will brow to you better judgement.