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    R8 Ring time achived by Sport auto is...

    ...8.04min!!!(standard suspension, Ceramic Brakes, bucket seats, Corsa tires)

    Just as a reference:

    RS4 8.09min(SS+, Ceramics, Corsa's)
    Aston V8 Vantaage 8.03min(Corsa's)
    Porsche 997CS 8.05min(PCCBs, -20mm/LSD, Michelin Pilot2 N1)
    Ferrari F430F1 7.55min(Ceramics, Corsa's)
    Porsche 997 Turbo(manual, LSD, PCCBs, Michelin Cup's)
    Corvette Z06 7.49min
    Porsche 997 GT3 7.48min(PCCBs, Michelin Cup's)

    I am very dissapointed...

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    8.04 is not a bad time.

    People expect too much these days.
    The difference between the 996TT and the 997TT is 1 (ONE!) second!

    Congratulations!
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    The time is where it should be. No suprises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    8.04 is not a bad time.

    People expect too much these days.
    The difference between the 996TT and the 997TT is 1 (ONE!) second!

    Congratulations!
    Maybe Erik... But, it was Stephan Reil who said 7.55min, NOT ME!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KresoF1 View Post
    Maybe Erik... But, it was Stephan Reil who said 7.55min, NOT ME!
    It would be consistent with the rumored 7:59 time of the RS4 (reported by me).

    Please remember that there is a difference between sport auto times and factory times set by proffessional race drivers.

    How do you know the sport auto time and the factory time is set with the same distance? And sometimes people confuse it with a BTG time.

    IMO you can only compare sport auto times with sport auto times.
    Otherwise you're comparing drivers, not cars.
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    Sport Auto

    Audi R8
    sport auto 06/2007
    Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.12,7 min
    Pirelli P Zero Corsa
    Ceramic

    Porsche 997/911 Turbo
    sport auto 05/2007
    Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.11,9 min
    Michelin Pilot Sport Cup N0
    Ceramic


    EVO
    Bedford West Circuit: 1.22,1min

    For comparison...
    F430F1 1.24,2min
    Porsche 997 Turbo 1.23,55min
    Porsche 997 GT3 1.23,1min
    Ferrari 599GTB 1.23,1min
    Lamborghini Gallardo(520hp) 1.22,8min
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    A little bit disappointed actually, I'd like it to do better than the AM V8 Vantage.. but still. It's a damn good time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KresoF1 View Post
    ...8.04min!!!(standard suspension, Ceramic Brakes, bucket seats, Corsa tires)

    Just as a reference:

    RS4 8.09min(SS+, Ceramics, Corsa's)
    Aston V8 Vantaage 8.03min(Corsa's)
    Porsche 997CS 8.05min(PCCBs, -20mm/LSD, Michelin Pilot2 N1)
    Ferrari F430F1 7.55min(Ceramics, Corsa's)
    Porsche 997 Turbo(manual, LSD, PCCBs, Michelin Cup's)
    Corvette Z06 7.49min
    Porsche 997 GT3 7.48min(PCCBs, Michelin Cup's)

    I am very dissapointed...

    Leadie,
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    Not the time expected but like everything track conditions and temperature has to be taken in to consideration. This is not the first time the R8 has posted unexpected times in to hands of Sport Auto, their other time around Hockenheim is inconsistent with what has been achieved by many other magazines. Like Erik showed the times from EVO are much better than either the Lambo, Ferrari or Porsche.

    Maybe they can't get the best from Audi cars because of the way they feel, who knows. After this I doubt the RS6 will perform as expected in their hands.

    I am surprised that Audi didn't supple a car with both R-Tronic and MagneticRide, both things which Stephan Reil reckoned were required for the track.
    Search and you will find the truth.

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    Leadie,
    Stephan Reil personally delivered R8 to Sport Auto. Sport Auto requested the fastest version possible...
    Regarding EVO track times... I am very, very sceptical about them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KresoF1 View Post
    Leadie,
    Stephan Reil personally delivered R8 to Sport Auto. Sport Auto requested the fastest version possible...
    Regarding EVO track times... I am very, very sceptical about them...
    Sceptical about EVO, they are the least bias magazine I have every read, unlike Autocar or some of the others.:eye:

    I am a little disappointed with the time as I reckon many others, you find EVO's time sceptical but it is more consistent with other magazines than this one from Sport Auto, I am under to impression that the majority are always more right.


    That is until it goes against my own personal beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KresoF1 View Post
    Leadie,
    Stephan Reil personally delivered R8 to Sport Auto. Sport Auto requested the fastest version possible...
    Regarding EVO track times... I am very, very sceptical about them...
    As Leadie has suggested, EVO are the least bias motoring rag of all. And if they were to favour any car at all, it would be Porsche. So the fact that they achieved the time they did with the R8, would have been more of a shock to them, than it would to us i'm sure!

    Regarding the actual time, I find it hard to believe that an R8 WITHOUT magnetic ride would be the fastest possible verison?

    Also waiting for the car to be put in the hands of a real driver...

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    LOL 8:04 is just too slow

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazsura View Post
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    Regarding the actual time, I find it hard to believe that an R8 WITHOUT magnetic ride would be the fastest possible verison? ...
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    I do not. it was posted here already that the magnetic ride sport setting equals the non magnetic suspension setting.

    A friend of mine, who has got the magnetic ride in his TT 3.2 S-tronic and has testdriven the R8 with the standard (non magnetic) suspension had the same impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner View Post
    I do not. it was posted here already that the magnetic ride sport setting equals the non magnetic suspension setting.

    A friend of mine, who has got the magnetic ride in his TT 3.2 S-tronic and has testdriven the R8 with the standard (non magnetic) suspension had the same impression.

    greetings
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    No the MagneticRide in 'sport mode' is firmer than the standard suspension while the 'comfort/normal mode' is slightly softer. Regardless of whether it's a Porsche or an Audi, these types of suspension offer better grip especially on the track. The same will apply to the R-Tronic for track use, on the road I would chose a manual but on the track a semi-auto will always the better option.

    Now don't get my wrong, 8:04 is still a good time when compared to the likes of the 997C4S but this is not a reflection of what other magazines have found when testing the R8 against cars that have posted much better times than it on the ring. It's lateral grip is better than all of the cars that post similar times on the ring and it also out performs them in both acceleration and braking. I just find the time posted by Sport Auto very unusual based on what other testers have found.

    Maybe it's the ring effect that 7:53RS6 talks about.
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    I think it is a bit slow for R8! Just 5 sek faster then RS4, but compare weight and space, RS4 Clubsport won't be slower then R8, and for the same price, guys!!! + more space and comfort!

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    Leadie,
    R8 is according to Sport Auto(and not only Sport Auto but, all German mags) marginally faster in acceleration then RS4. Difference in 0-200km/h is just 0.4s and IMHO this is nothing. Same thing about in gear acceleration(say 80km/h till 180km/h), difference is below 0.5s...

    So, only excellent suspension setup, better aerodynamics and little bit lowe weight is responsible for 5s better time on the Ring.

    EVO will very soon publish road test between R8, 997 Turbo and some other sporscars... Just a hint-you definitely will not be pleased with the R8 results and their final conclusion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KresoF1 View Post
    EVO will very soon publish road test between R8, 997 Turbo and some other sporscars... Just a hint-you definitely will not be pleased with the R8 results and their final conclusion...
    What happened with "A new dawn starts today."

    In the last test the loved it on the roads and now it's dislike? I don't get it.. when will the next magazine be out?

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