Nice! Porsche 997 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06

[Erik]

From AutoZeitung




TRACK test Corvette Z06 against Porsche 911 GT3 R-S

Result
"the test was one gro? ?erraschung f?mich. We have here two v?ig different sports car concepts, which can be moved erwartungsgem?auch v?ig differently. On the side with the Corvette Z06 a genuine Powercar from the USA with 7,0 litres capacity to the asking price. On the other side a racing car with Stra?nzulassung. To call the Porsche 911 GT3 R-S something else, w? missed. During the series tyre the two separate worlds likewise. Everyday life-suited Runflat tires on the V8-Monster, Semi Slicks on the finely balanced racer. And which happens? The two separate f at the end only? Tenth ofs a second. The Porsche makes exactly what you want. The Corvette dr?t as wildly forward. But you can convert the strength many more badly, because you must k?fen st?ig. You need in the Corvette also more courage than in the Porsche, it come even in the fourth course still crosswise. If you this strength on the bitumen bring k?test. Semi Slicks does not give it f?die Z06 to time yet, then to w? it a genuine monster. The Porsche is that absolutely rounds and snaps total package."

Z06
Laptime: 1,57.90 min

GT3 RS
Laptime: 1,57.44 min

Sorry for the babelfish translation...

[bilbozilla]

I should've waited.

[Benman]

I should've waited.

LOL!!!

You'll do fine with your "regular" GT3...

Man, less than a half a second slower for just more than half the price! Unbelievable respect for the Z06!:king:

Ben

[AndyBG]

The test I been waiting for...

3600 ccm N/A 415 hp

vs

7011 ccm N/A 500+`hp

And winner is...

... of course...

!!! PORSCHE !!! :king:

[BBGT2]

Man that GT3RS looks so bad ass. I am sorry gents, even though the Vette is half what the P car is its still a no brainer for most, Porsche... often chased but never fully caught up in all areas.
No doubt the Vette is the best bang for the buck, BUT think long term 2-3 years and no more at what it will look like. You cant make product for $65k that will last and be able to withstand every day pounding like a Porsche. There is always a reason why certain things cost more than others. I am not a Vette basher and for those of you that have one good for you I hope you like it, numbers are just numbers and change always.


Bajo

[AndyBG]

Of course...

GT3 RS, explains some things...

[bilbozilla]

It makes mine look so "tame" (that is a "t", not an "l"). Different game entirely.

[AndyBG]

Don't be so hursh, GT3 is fantastic car...

I think that it would be faster than CZ06...

[Cale24]

I'd happily have a regular GT3- both that and the RS version are great cars. I'm very impressed with the Z06 lap time, although I reckon it would be a different story on other tighter tracks. Surely? And that Z06 interior!!?? No offence to Z06 owners, but even I could design a better interior with the same budget and materials- its diabolical. That steering wheel! Those seats!! Even the exterior styling is rather conservative, despite Corvette having SO MUCH potential inspiration.

[bilbozilla]

Don't be so hursh, GT3 is fantastic car...

I think that it would be faster than CZ06...

I'm not being harsh. It's one of those things that for a little while spun around in the ethers of my mind ... "I could have..." not necessarily "I should have".

As for the C6Z06, my friend who's getting the RS (he's had over 90 cars in the last 4 years) loaned me his for a day. It's definitely an american car, but it was impressive nevertheless.

Honestly, I really don't have any regrets.

[Erik]

Complete translated article:

TRACK test Corvette Z06 against Porsche 911 GT3 R-S
Both place the basis for a racing car, and the Corvette Z06 and the new Porsche nevertheless separate 911 GT3 R-S worlds. Running professional Kurt Thiim tests both on the Formel-1-Kurs in Hockenheim
Red-Green the couple draws each attention in the nearly deserted driver camp of the Hockenheim ring on itself. „That the hardest examination for the Corvette “, prophesied ex-DTM-professional Kurt Thiim. And it is right.

The potent US hammer is compromiseless built: small weight owing to a chassis from aluminum and carbon fiber composite materials, bear-strongly owing to the largest Small-Block-V8, the general of engine built ever, and drehzahlfest owing to titanium piston rods, sodium-filled titanium intake valves and aluminum flat-topped pistons. Only the valve gear is still made by a central arranged cam shaft. 512 HP as well as 637 Newtonmeters torque speak a clear language, the maximum speed of 320 km/h likewise. In the end still the Sahnehäubchen: The weight per horsepower of the Z06 is with only 2.8 kg/PS. That should be enough, in order to frighten each Porsche, or?

But: On a good round time also things decide such as brake performance and driving stability in the frontier. And here in the comparison to the flat, broad Corvette nearly delicate 911 GT3 R-S set, weight per horsepower: 3,3 kg/PS. And the R-S models show already since 1972, what is possible in puncto driving dynamics with one to road-certified for car.

Newest R-S is there no exception. Again 20 Kilos more easily than the normal GT3 and equipped with an adjustable chassis, optimized aerodynamics as well as finest Racing attributes, he start, in order to control the sports car world.

The hoarse barking 3,6-Liter-Boxer in the tail has not only just as exclusive Innereien now as the GM-V8, but also over an a mass flywheel, which saves eight Kilos opposite the conventional flywheel. „The engine reacted thereby very spritzig, turns phänomenal fast highly “, describes to Thiim the effects, „at all, the Porsche is actually a racing car, you notices it immediately at the clutch counter-pressure or also at the high switching forces. And if you drive off in the morning, it cracks here and there, Laufgeräusche comes from the drive strand. You experience the same, if you roll with a cold racing car from the box lane on the runway - wonderful. “

In relation to achievement disadvantage the Corvette - 415 to 512 HP - the GT3 R-S with its chassis and the standard Michelin Semi Slicks wants to than only compensate more. The Goodyear Runflatreifen of the Ami is there rather a everyday life-suited solution.

Thiim decides after two sample rounds with the two cars as the first for the Z06: „The conversion between the two cars is giant-largely, thus around falls it however somewhat more easily. “The Dane does without any electronic support. Thus he selects the attitude „ASR and active handling out “in the cockpit display. After short approach the V8 bollert over the start/goal straight line. With 204 km/h Thiim throws the anchor before the north curve and switches down.

Becomes clear already here: „You must leave yourself time when switching, otherwise it cracks in the transmission. The operating paths are clearly longer and not like that exactly defined as in the Porsche. “The second characteristic of the Corvette becomes clear in the next right curve before the long Parabolika: Of 211 km/h Thiim must down up to 58 things, to give in and on as early an accelerating as possible concentrate at the same time. „All no problem, but in the seats of the Corvette I find too little stop to technical and slip partly somewhat helplessly around “, say Thiim later.

But which after the slide portion follows, fascinates the Dane: „The Drehmomentkick and this Beschleunigungsorgie up to the pointed turn place simply everything into the shade. “251 km/h the government inspection department measuring instrument indicates at the point of applying brakes gently, to only 44 km/h stands the close right curve - maximum permissible load for all vehicle components. „The car remains very stable with these hard brakings. But the tires are overtaxed on the racing course and lubricate. The handling loses thereby at precision. “

Again the Z06 start, as if would be the devil behind it ago. The large V8 has easy play with the unloaded weight of 1440 kilograms. In the gentle right break before the Mercedes grandstand Thiim must briefly of the gas and loses speed. Also the following sector into and by the Kurvengeschlängel of the Motodrom becomes probably never the favourite playground of the Corvette. Thiim: „You must force yourself in curves again and again to the peace, give the car time to stabilize. Only so you can use the whole power.

The body movements are more pronounced in the comparison to the Porsche and want to be taken into account. “Accordingly the applying brakes gently speeds are very highly, the curve speeds however rather average. Only the outward easily superelevated special curve facilitates it the Corvette a little. The drift with 97 km/h at the entrance to starting/goal straight lines is hardly to be avoided. Few seconds later Kurt Thiim with 187 km/h rushes by the light barrier. Its total time: 1.57, 90 minutes

The racing professional rises directly over into the Porsche and squeezes themselves into the bowl seat. The electronic PASM chassis pressed on hard posed, those sport key for still more spontaneous responding of the engine and traction control deactivates - it can loose-go. Hoarse roaring the GT3 R-S hunts on the north curve to and brakes clearly later than the Corvette. However it is here also nine km/h more slowly than the Z06.

The same play before the next curve: very late and hard applying brakes gently into the curve inside, then just as early accelerating. Here the class of the chassis and the tire show up. The rate of turn is appropriate for ten km/h more highly than with the Corvette. Then the pointed turn, Thiim follows applies brakes gently with 241 km/h, thus ten km/h lose on the US sportsman. But: The brake point lies stately 23 meters later, that is nearly five vehicle lengths.

Thiim in addition: „Nevertheless, in order to realize a time advantage with the Porsche, you must drive and the engine out crimpings very exactly. But for it this car is exactly built. Giving in behavior and driving stability are simply great. “Where it had to almost give full power in the Corvette carefully to act, can it in the Porsche. And it must it also, because up to applying brakes gently before the Mercedes grandstand the Corvette lies still in front with 0.87 seconds projection/lead. „You can take the entrance into the Motodrom in the Porsche nearly fully. There the new aerodynamics of R-S already plays a large role “, says Thiim.

Now the running driver plays his decades of experience out and flogs the Elfer by the curves. In the last sector it actually gets a projection/lead of 1.23 seconds raus and crosses after 1.57, 44 minutes the goal line, knappe five tenth ofs a second in former times as with the Corvette. Thiim rolls abgekämpft into the box lane: „If you so a Porsche to buy want to be, must you a Racer. Otherwise the outstanding driving experience is opened for you never. The GT3 R-S is not a toy. “

Result
“The test was a large surprise for me. We have here two completely different sports car concepts, which can be moved as expected also completely differently. On the side with the Corvette Z06 a genuine Powercar from the USA with 7,0 litres capacity to the asking price. On the other side a racing car with road permission. The Porsche 911 GT3 R-S as something else to designate, would be missed. During the series tyre the two separate worlds likewise. Everyday life-suited Runflat tires on the V8-Monster, Semi Slicks on the finely balanced racer. And which happens? The two separate only five tenth ofs a second at the end. The Porsche makes exactly what you want. The Corvette presses as wildly forward. But you can convert Kraft many more badly, because you must constantly fight. You need in the Corvette also more courage than in the Porsche, it come even in the fourth course still crosswise. If you could bring these Kraft on the bitumen - Semi Slicks does not give it for the Z06 to time yet -, then it were a genuine monster. The Porsche is that absolutely rounds and snaps total package.”

[AndyBG]

''...The GT3 R-S is not a toy. ''

Truly, GREAT car !!!

I love IT !

[Clio16V]

Thanks Erik!

[JavierNuvolari]

Nice article...needless to say I would take a GT3RS any day over the Z06. Both are great cars...but I just love the Porsche.

Javier

[7:53 RS6]

It makes mine look so "tame" (that is a "t", not an "l"). Different game entirely.

Not relly! Its just a marketing trick by Porsche ( the coulors and all), they are good at that, as well at erning money. Sure its the old coulors.

No wonder why CS option(cage, seats, etc) to the new normal GT3, as well as ceramics brake are at some cost of money. If not they might had less order on RS, heck whit these options as well the CS option on a normal GT3....then its allmost an RS .
Heck its the same car more or less, same power and all. If someone wants to put CS option on their GT3, as it is now, they get better off to buy the RS regarding price!.

Well at this point many of you will shout out loud, its not the same car.......and you will all mention about 10 thing what differ the new GT3 RS from the new GT3!

Thats why we know marketing guys made a god jobb.
I know you all know this, ok its in all mags, anyway(i do as well know)!
Even the RS is wider and stiffer as well got other offset at the rear wheels to fill the wider arches, etc bla, bla..........Due to Porsche marketing strategi we all know! As well we know about the 8 kg lighter fhlywheel(20kg in total lighter, etc...bla, bla).

This RS is geat, even the GT3 is. But what about if RS had some extra Hp, my guess we would not know so very much about the things that differ from the to cars then! It seams more importent to separate the to cars now, as they have the same engin power..(what if they had the same coulor, who would buy RS then
My guess is 99% of the guys buying RS is not going to be abel to use the small extra edge a RS has(adjust cambers etc).

Still there are many god reason to buy RS of course, not only the badge and coulor. That would be my pick as well, the RS(or maybee not!) so hats of to the marketing guys But the best part is not in RS anylonger, its not limited....heck is a normal GT3 whit stickers

Horst managed to lap the new RS only 3 seconds faster than he laped new GT3 at the ring.

(this is said whit a blink in my eye, i hope i dont nead my flamesuit on for this all)
By the way the Z06 is the shit, i always know! You could always put recaro seats in it, nothing more, and kick as at track, plain stock as it is

[ott]

If Z06 was only 0,46 sec. slower per lap with standard runflat tires, compared to P car with semislicks, then its clearly faster car on this track, when fitted with similar tyres. Vette looks to be more suitable for normal road use and has better acceleration (0-200 12,1 sec vs. 13,3 sec).

Average buyer of those cars probably uses 0-200 more frequently compared to lapping racing circuits. Of course average buyer appreciates also P. car's nicer interior, better overall quality feel, brand image and so on. Both are good cars and worth their asking price, it just depends what are the preferences and how much one can pay for such fun.

[Benman]

If Z06 was only 0,46 sec. slower per lap with standard runflat tires, compared to P car with semislicks, then its clearly faster car on this track, when fitted with similar tyres.

Both are good cars and worth their asking price, it just depends what are the preferences and how much one can pay for such fun.

Exactly. If both were the exact same price, I'd of course take the GT3 RS. But for the $$$, make mine Z06.

Ben

[nene]

I'm impressed with the Corvette. The interior not what I'd expect, but only because I've been spoiled with Audi.