R8 competition heats up.

[Damienr8]

for 2009 MY- it will be a year of V10 monsters.

the NSX

the LF-A

and the V6 or V8 GTR

the R8 will be surely up to the task and the reason why audi is in no hurry to show it just yet............ with 500 hp and the overachieving personality to add (the V8 model circles the ring in just a tad less then the 997 TT from various confidential accounts)..... audi will not fall behind.

exciting times indeed.

despite the added heft i am sure the V10 will feel as light and tight as the V8. now a modded V8............... mmmmmmmmmmmmh :MTM:

Funny thing is that I have no fear that the Audi R8 will dominate the above competition. From all the previews/unofficial lap times/etc. the audi R8(V8) surpassed what it was meant to do in the first place.

I can only imagine that If Audi can place a V10 in there, (that somehow weighs only a little more than the V8) and match that to a slick-shifting, reliable 6-speed manual............there will be no competition.

[RXBG]

Funny thing is that I have no fear that the Audi R8 will dominate the above competition. From all the previews/unofficial lap times/etc. the audi R8(V8) surpassed what it was meant to do in the first place.

I can only imagine that If Audi can place a V10 in there, (that somehow weighs only a little more than the V8) and match that to a slick-shifting, reliable 6-speed manual............there will be no competition.

if the gods are on our side and a dsg debuts with the V10 god help all of the above AND the F430 and the "re"-updated gallardo ( )

[Damienr8]

if the gods are on our side and a dsg debuts with the V10 god help all of the above AND the F430 and the "re"-updated gallardo ( )

Yea im thinking that they will be fitting the DSG with the R8. But if for some reason they can engineer a 6-speed manny with a high revving V10, that would be nice. And yea, ferrari watch out. like you said updated gallardo :eye:

[sticky]

Yea im thinking that they will be fitting the DSG with the R8. But if for some reason they can engineer a 6-speed manny with a high revving V10, that would be nice. And yea, ferrari watch out. like you said updated gallardo :eye:

What exactly does ferrari have to fear? Lambo needs to launch a more powerful gallardo to catch up to the current 430 and by that time ferrari will launch a challenge stradale version of the 430 that will again put them well ahead of the gallardo in performance.

[Damienr8]

What exactly does ferrari have to fear? Lambo needs to launch a more powerful gallardo to catch up to the current 430 and by that time ferrari will launch a challenge stradale version of the 430 that will again put them well ahead of the gallardo in performance.

Im just making a prediction, relax dude. Who knows, maybe the updated gallardo might gain some horse and shed some weight. At least that is what i am hoping for.

[sticky]

Im just making a prediction, relax dude. Who knows, maybe the updated gallardo might gain some horse and shed some weight. At least that is what i am hoping for.

I'm not sure how my tone came across but I wasn't trying to jump all over you or anything. I was just bringing the thread back into reality.

[tazsura]

What exactly does ferrari have to fear? Lambo needs to launch a more powerful gallardo to catch up to the current 430 and by that time ferrari will launch a challenge stradale version of the 430 that will again put them well ahead of the gallardo in performance.

The current Gallardo gives a good fight to the F430 and is by no means out gunned enough to say it is an easy victory to the Fezza, and the uprated Lambo will no doubt move the game on further. As for a riposte to the Challenge Stradale, there has long been talk of an SV version of the Gallardo, and i'm sure that this would more than take the fight to the F430CS with less weight, more power and RWD. Just my two cents.

Taz

[sticky]

The current Gallardo gives a good fight to the F430 and is by no means out gunned enough to say it is an easy victory to the Fezza, and the uprated Lambo will no doubt move the game on further. As for a riposte to the Challenge Stradale, there has long been talk of an SV version of the Gallardo, and i'm sure that this would more than take the fight to the F430CS with less weight, more power and RWD. Just my two cents.

Taz

As it stands today, ferrari has the clear advantage. There was talk of an SV gallardo, nothing materialized. We know the challenge stradale of the 430 is coming for sure, that is the difference. The gallardo with 520 hp and shorter gearing (SE) still trails very far behind and is bloated in comparison. The challenge stradale will be even lighter, and if it is anything like the last one, the best driving experience short of the supercars.

[RXBG]

What exactly does ferrari have to fear? Lambo needs to launch a more powerful gallardo to catch up to the current 430 and by that time ferrari will launch a challenge stradale version of the 430 that will again put them well ahead of the gallardo in performance.

and it is a hardcore, non daily drive version of the basic car. same will be true of the gallardo sv. one cannot compare these cars to the basic versions they came from. a race version of the R8 could also be produced and that would be a fair comparison with the above cars.

the bottom line is that the gallardo/R8 will soon face an ID crisis. and with porsche's say i would highly doubt that lambo will remain an audi owned company. lambo, believe it or not, is in danger of being sold........

i do not know how audi plans to distinguish the V10 R8 from the gallardo. i do not suspect the gallardo will produce more than 550 hp in final form (the last expected updated before an all new model that is at least 3 years away b/c lambo R&D is now operating on it's own profits and sans audi funding). only diff between the two will be the more daily livability/comfort of the R8. (while achieving 9/10ths of the performance at a 50K minimum savings- which could buy you a heffner kit that will kill just about anything this side of a zonda)

and finally, the V10 in the R8 is expected to be a high rev NA engine... iow- an RS4engine with two more cylinders. and not requiring a computer to release 100 more hp from it. that is scary brilliant stuff....and imo shall be a much superior engine to the one in the M5 and M6......

[sticky]

and it is a hardcore, non daily drive version of the basic car. same will be true of the gallardo sv. one cannot compare these cars to the basic versions they came from. a race version of the R8 could also be produced and that would be a fair comparison with the above cars.

the bottom line is that the gallardo/R8 will soon face an ID crisis. and with porsche's say i would highly doubt that lambo will remain an audi owned company. lambo, believe it or not, is in danger of being sold........

i do not know how audi plans to distinguish the V10 R8 from the gallardo. i do not suspect the gallardo will produce more than 550 hp in final form (the last expected updated before an all new model that is at least 3 years away b/c lambo R&D is now operating on it's own profits and sans audi funding). only diff between the two will be the more daily livability/comfort of the R8. (while achieving 9/10ths of the performance at a 50K minimum savings- which could buy you a heffner kit that will kill just about anything this side of a zonda)

and finally, the V10 in the R8 is expected to be a high rev NA engine... iow- an RS4engine with two more cylinders. and not requiring a computer to release 100 more hp from it. that is scary brilliant stuff....and imo shall be a much superior engine to the one in the M5 and M6......

Lambo is in danger of being sold? According to who? At least provide a source don't just pull things out of thin air.

The heffner kit? It is over 50,000 dollars! No one is going to buy that. It requires new internals, doesn't work correctly with e-gear, and requires months of labor. To remove it later would be impossible. Not only that, it takes the car to low 11's at 128. Nothing short of a zonda will touch it? Sorry, 997 turbo's are surpassing that with BOLT ON'S, not even going to mention the Z06.

Isn't the motor in the gallardo a high rev NA 10? Why would the R8 get a better v10 than the gallardo which is what it would take to match up to BMW's v10?