MTM SC'd S5 did 1:13.8 at Hockenheim

[Kram]

1:13.8 --- 126.83 km/h ý MTM Audi S5 GT SC, 500 PS/1786 kg

AMAZING time
to put on perspective with other sport coupe/gt:

1:12.0 --- 130.00 km/h - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1748 kg
1:13.5 --- 127.35 km/h - Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR
1:13.5 --- 127.35 km/h - Aston Martin DBS, 517 PS/1727 kg
1:13.8 --- 126.83 km/h – Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1745 kg
1:14.4 --- 125.81 km/h - BMW M6, 507 PS
1:15.0 --- 124.80 km/h - Hamman BMW M3, 455 PS/1645 kg
1:17.1 --- 121.40 km/h - Bentley Continental GT Speed, 610 PS/2340 kg

[Erik]

SC = Supercharger?

[Ruergard]

SC = Supercharger?

Correct!

MTM have done an amazing job, thumbs up! :revs:

[Duma]

nice job !!!

[Leadfoot]

I think what will really put this effort into perspective is the time the GTR does, as like the MTM S5 it too has, similar weight, awd (though technically more advanced) and similar power. The main differences lay with the gearbox which is a million miles away from a manual.

Based on this time I would expect the big Nissan to knock a full 3 seconds off it.

[Benman]

I'd have to agree with Leadie, would be nice to see what time the GT-R posts. But I'm not so sure it will knock a full 3 seconds off.

Ben:addict:

[The Pretender]

MTM have done an amazing job, thumbs up! :revs:
Allmost, 1786 Kg :doh: you must be joking.
That car is at leased 200 Kg to heavy.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

I'd have to agree with Leadie, would be nice to see what time the GT-R posts. But I'm not so sure it will knock a full 3 seconds off.

Ben:addict:

OK, maybe 3 seconds is a bit optimistic but I was basing my opinion/estimates on the fact that the Ferrari 599 was 1.8s quicker and I know the GTR is quicker on any track than it. So maybe something between the 2~3 second mark.

Would you concur.

[Benman]

something between the 2~3 second mark.

Would you concur.

I'd say you would be spot on mate.:cheers:

Ben:addict:

[AndyBG]

Is anybody have some pic' or video of that MTM S5...?

[Mr Balsen]

I have them somewhere on my web site ! !

With this car, I did Paris - Ingolstadt in less than 5 hours (over 850 km)...
It includes many stops at gaz stations and one at burger king ! ! !

Frederic

[Vale]

All about S5 MTM
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.php?nav=3&marke=AU&modell=S5

[Kram]

I don't think that is fair to compare this S5 to a GTR. It should be compared to a high performance luxury GT.

Other data:

0-100km/h - 4,3s
0-200km/h - 13,9s

Vmax 300km/h

1:13.8 on hockenheim using Michelin Pilot Sport 2 295/25/21 rubber!!!!!! Huge, but not race compound

[Vale]

My S5 is coming this summer,and after summer ill go to mtm to buy exhaust system and maybe supercharger......

[Benman]

I don't think that is fair to compare this S5 to a GTR. It should be compared to a high performance luxury GT.


Uhmm... that is what the GT-R is, a 2+2 Hi Po Grand Tourer.

Ben:addict:

[AndyBG]

All about S5 MTM
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.php?nav=3&marke=AU&modell=S5

Thanks for the link, but I was hoping that someone have something from that actual event...

:cheers:

[Kram]

Uhmm... that is what the GT-R is, a 2+2 Hi Po Grand Tourer.

Ben:addict:

ok ok, but you forgot the luxury . . . . and beauty part. :hahahehe:

[Ruergard]

Allmost, 1786 Kg :doh: you must be joking.
That car is at leased 200 Kg to heavy.

Jarod.

I agree on that one. But it did perform very well! :)

[The Pretender]

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MTM-Audi S5 (Audi S5)
Power: 500 hp (354 hp)
Torque: 520 Nm (440 Nm)
Tyres: Michelin PS2 (Michelin PS2)
Weight: 1786 kg (1722 kg)
Vmax.: 300 km/h (250 km/h)
0-100 km/h: 4,3 s (5,2 s)
0-200 km/h: 13,9 (19,1 s)
80-120 km/h in 4th: 3,9 s (4,7 s)
18 m slalom: 67,9 km/h (67,5 km/h)
Hockenheimring: 1.13,8 min (1.17,2 min)
100-0 km/h (warm): 34,4 m (35,8 m)
Price as tested: 97 940 € (67 915 €)

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

MTM-Audi S5 (Audi S5)
Power: 500 hp (354 hp)
Torque: 520 Nm (440 Nm)
Tyres: Michelin PS2 (Michelin PS2)
Weight: 1786 kg (1722 kg)
Vmax.: 300 km/h (250 km/h)
0-100 km/h: 4,3 s (5,2 s)
0-200 km/h: 13,9 (19,1 s)
80-120 km/h in 4th: 3,9 s (4,7 s)
18 m slalom: 67,9 km/h (67,5 km/h)
Hockenheimring: 1.13,8 min (1.17,2 min)
100-0 km/h (warm): 34,4 m (35,8 m)
Price as tested: 97 940 € (67 915 €)

Jarod.

The bit highlighted in bold interest me the most.

To start with, MTM don't seem to have done much to the chassis, 0.4Km/h is not what I call a big improvement through the slalom so the Hockenheim time (3.4s improvement) looks to be solely down to the next grunt from the engine.

Also the braking improvements, I take it there is different discs/pads in there as something which weighs even more shouldn't brake better. Oh yeah the weight, 44kgs more? Is all of this extra weight from under the bonnet, I seriously would have thought the supercharger would have been less than a turbo system but based on this I have my doubts.

Sorry guys for an extra 44% more I would expect something better. :rolleyes:

[The Pretender]

I think the weight gain is from the SC and maybe the 21" wheels.:vhmmm:
That's why i hope to see some kind of HP V6 engine in the RS5.
The RS5 need to loose weight compare to the S5.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

I didn't realise that it was running 295 wide rubber (didn't read the spec list), now I am even less impressed by it's results.

Sorry guys.

I seriously hope that Audi can do a better job of things. That MTM have produced is a Grand Tourer with mountains of power, the RS5 will have to be a driver's car of the highest order.

[AndyBG]

It is little bit hard task for Audi to produce RS 5 in ''drivers car'' variant.

It will be loaded with ''tons'' of luxury equipment, ''quattro''... It will be heavy and vey powerfull...

[The RS6]

0-200 km/h: 13,9 (19,1 s)


Noone mentioned this...

If it's true that's...fast... :wo:

[Mr Balsen]

. That MTM have produced is a Grand Tourer with mountains of power

Exactly ! Look at the S5 MTM K500 as a mini Continental GT

If you want power and performance, look at the RS4 V8 MTM K550...

Frederic

[KK265]

If you want power and performance, look at the RS4 V8 MTM K550...

Frederic

Is this project ready for sale?

[Mr Balsen]

Is this project ready for sale?

Not yet...

Frederic

[Leadfoot]

Exactly ! Look at the S5 MTM K500 as a mini Continental GT

If you want power and performance, look at the RS4 V8 MTM K550...

Frederic

I love my S5 but I couldn't justify the extra cash involved in the MTM S5 when it's basic character is the same. I just can't see the point in this car. :confused:

Maybe if I experienced it that might change my mind but based on pure figures which I might add are shit hot I can't see the point in it all. This reminds me of some Hartge products, shit fast but at the expense of finesse.

P.S.

I am a little disappointed that the extra 40mm of rubber width hasn't improved the slalom speed. I know that when I really lean on my S5 it runs out of frontal grip quite quickly, this I put down to the dunlop tyres. From some sources I have spoken to they say the new Quattro3 will increase this to a totally different level which I see as a bigger benefit than adding more power to the mix.

It will be interesting to see what the S5 with Quattro3 will do to it's lap time and then we can see if the MTM S5 is really the giant step it's price is indicating.

[The Pretender]

It is little bit hard task for Audi to produce RS 5 in ''drivers car'' variant.

It will be loaded with ''tons'' of luxury equipment, ''quattro''... It will be heavy and vey powerfull...
If you look at the weight of this MTM S5 SC you can see Audi's problem with the up coming RS5.
A upgraded RS4 engine will not hack it by a weight of 1700+ Kg.
and putting in a V8 Bi-turbo or V10 FSI engine ad more weight to the car.
The new RS5 will most likely fast but not sporty IMHO.
Audi need to find a way to reduce the weigh a lot to make the upcoming RS5 sporty.
Otherwise it will be a big fat fast grand tourer for long cruises.

Jarod.

[Leadfoot]

If you look at the weight of this MTM S5 SC you can see Audi's problem with the up coming RS5.
A upgraded RS4 engine will not hack it by a weight of 1700+ Kg.
and putting in a V8 Bi-turbo or V10 FSI engine ad more weight to the car.
The new RS5 will most likely fast but not sporty IMHO.
Audi need to find a way to reduce the weigh a lot to make the next RS5 sporty.
Otherwise it will be a big fat fast grand tourer for long cruises.

Jarod.

I understand where you are coming from Jarod, but until we experience Quattro3 this opinion is purely based on present experiences of the S5. Anyone I know who has experienced either the Quattro3 or the X6 with it's own torque vectoring system says the difference between the two is incredible, you won't not think they were the same car.

Quattro3 combined with either DRCIII or MagneticRide should make even a slightly porky car perform impressively. Body control can mask the affects of weight and decent brakes can cope with weight as well, all we need now is an engine to complete the illusion. ;)

If Nissan are capable of fooling the public and motoring press then surely it should be wee buns for Audi with their Vorsprung durch Technik. :D

[Mr Balsen]

I love my S5 but I couldn't justify the extra cash involved in the MTM S5 when it's basic character is the same. I just can't see the point in this car. :confused:



Well you should drive it then !!!!

The 21" wheels and 295 tires are more for shows and press articles. Personnally, I will use the 20" and 265. Much better for performance...

Frederic

[The Pretender]

Well you should drive it then !!!!

The 21" wheels and 295 tires are more for shows and press articles. Personnally, I will use the 20" and 265. Much better for performance...

Frederic
20" and 265.
The normal Bimoto is availeble in 19" and 21".
Only the forged R8 Bimoto is 20" and only the front wheels can be used with adaptor or spacer.

Jarod.

[Mr Balsen]

20" and 265.
The normal Bimoto is availeble in 19" and 21".
Only the forged R8 Bimoto is 20" and only the front wheels can be used with adaptor or spacer.

Jarod.

Well all the MTM records at Hockenheim have been done with 19".

Soon the 20" will be available for others car than the R8. At least that's what my little finger told me...

Frederic

[pampas]

I

Quattro3 combined with either DRCIII or MagneticRide should make even a slightly porky car perform impressively. Body control can mask the affects of weight and decent brakes can cope with weight as well, all we need now is an engine to complete the illusion. ;)


Do we know when is the Quattro3 ready for S5? In other words, when should I order my S5 to make sure I am getting the new Q system?

[The Pretender]

Do we know when is the Quattro3 ready for S5? In other words, when should I order my S5 to make sure I am getting the new Q system?
After the introduction of the new S4 IMHO.

Jarod.

[Erik]

Die Platzierungen:

MTM-Audi A5 TDI Clubsport - Florian Gruber - 300 PS - 1:14,812 - Diesel - 1. Platz
MTM-Audi RS4 Clubsport - Florian Gruber - 540 PS - 1:10,794 - Limousinen - 1. Platz
MTM-Audi S1 - Dieter Heubacher - 530 PS - 1:12,193 - Youngtimer - 1. Platz
MTM Audi S5 GT Supercharged - Rudolf Brandl - 500 PS - 1:14,910 - Coupé / Cabrio - 3. Platz
MTM Audi S3 Clubsport - Rudolf Brandl - 380 PS - 1:14,276 - Kompakt - 3. Platz
MTM Audi R8 Supercharged - Florian Gruber - 550 PS - 1:10,528 - GT Klasse - schnellster R8

[roadrunner]

Die Platzierungen:

MTM-Audi A5 TDI Clubsport - Florian Gruber - 300 PS - 1:14,812 - Diesel - 1. Platz
MTM-Audi RS4 Clubsport - Florian Gruber - 540 PS - 1:10,794 - Limousinen - 1. Platz
MTM-Audi S1 - Dieter Heubacher - 530 PS - 1:12,193 - Youngtimer - 1. Platz
MTM Audi S5 GT Supercharged - Rudolf Brandl - 500 PS - 1:14,910 - Coupé / Cabrio - 3. Platz
MTM Audi S3 Clubsport - Rudolf Brandl - 380 PS - 1:14,276 - Kompakt - 3. Platz
MTM Audi R8 Supercharged - Florian Gruber - 550 PS - 1:10,528 - GT Klasse - schnellster R8


200 hp difference and only 0,1 Sec difference - what happend here :vhmmm:

besides that - good results for MTM :thumb:

cheers
seb.

[Mr Balsen]

200 hp difference and only 0,1 Sec difference - what happend here :vhmmm:

besides that - good results for MTM :thumb:

cheers
seb.

As Caroll Shelby said in the sixties, You win races with Torque, you sell with Horsepower...

That's still applies today ! ! !

Frederic

[Leadfoot]

As Caroll Shelby said in the sixties, You win races with Torque, you sell with Horsepower...

That's still applies today ! ! !

Frederic

I agree with you but just try telling that one to an M3/5/6 owner to hear their reaction. :lovl:

[Ruergard]

I agree with you but just try telling that one to an M3/5/6 owner to hear their reaction. :lovl:

So if I wait a couple of months and ask you the same question? :rolleyes:

I'm really impressed by that A5 diesel!

[Mr Balsen]

I agree with you but just try telling that one to an M3/5/6 owner to hear their reaction. :lovl:

Feeling and Pleasure are different from Lap Time !

But I have to admit the MTM kit (MTM Cantronic + MTM Exhaust) for this A5 3.0l TDI is quite impressive !!!

Frederic

[Leadfoot]

So if I wait a couple of months and ask you the same question? :rolleyes:

I'm really impressed by that A5 diesel!

I too was very impressed with the A53.0TDi.

My S5 is starting to lossen up nicely and it's getting bloody quick too, the only disappointing thing I has to say about it at the moment is it's economy or lack of it, my average is only 17.4mpg which is hard to live with when ful prices are going through the roof. :rolleyes:

[MTMBerlin]

Some pictures from the S5 from the Tuner Grand Prix 2008 in Hockenheim...
http://mtm-berlin.com/shared/images/events/tuner_gp_2008/IMG_3729.jpg

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